Right, things of that nature would happen for some exceptional circumstances, like a bad security issue, for example. But, again, that doesn't mean that those devices were ready to get an upgrade to a new version--and, in fact, they didn't get it, even after getting a newer (unexpected) update to the last version they could support.
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Which Devices Won't Make the Cut for iOS 8?
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Remember that the 3GS was the last iOS device in their line up with a 480*320 screen and I'm pretty sure that Apple didn't want developers to deal with such a low resolution display.
that's no argument. Every old device has old tech you don't want developers dealing with, ideally. In 2017, the 5S will be just as cumbersome as the 3GS was last year.
I was clarifying a reason the 3GS wouldn't be updated to iOS 7. Apple tends to want to streamline their device portfolios and having a non-retina phone would be quite out of place for them, especially I'm 2014 just like how the 3.5" device will be very soon and the non retina iPads.
The 3GS would be out of place, agreed. Why? Because it's old. An example of it being old is the non-retina display.There is no reason why dropping the 3GS can be considered 'special', it was just considered too old for various reasons. This will happen to every iPhone eventually. You could say the same for the newer iPhones in the coming years.
The iPhone 4 would be out of place becasue of the single core SoC and 30-pin connector.
The iPhone 4S would be out of place because of the 3.5" screen size and 30-pin connector.
The iPhone 5 would be out of place because of the 32-bit SoC and lack of Touch ID.
The iPhone 5S would be out of place because of... [insert random tech spec that will feel ancient and be a hassle for developers in 2017].
Which Devices Won't Make the Cut for iOS 8?
iPad 2 is relatively featureless with software, Siri and etc. Has 30 pin, non retina, 512 mb RAM, etc. Does it even support LTE? My Motorola Xoom that came out BEFORE the iPad 2 even had LTE.
I just don't see it happening. And owners of such a device should maybe look into upgrading if they want the latest software.
I can't imagine someone finding it unbelievable they'd drop iOS updates for such an archaic device.
iPad 2 is relatively featureless with software, Siri and etc. Has 30 pin, non retina, 512 mb RAM, etc. Does it even support LTE? My Motorola Xoom that came out BEFORE the iPad 2 even had LTE.
I just don't see it happening. And owners of such a device should maybe look into upgrading if they want the latest software.
I can't imagine someone finding it unbelievable they'd drop iOS updates for such an archaic device.
Don't know what planet you live on. Nothing that the iPad Air really does that my iPad 2 can't do.. Siri I never use on iPad.. In fact iOS 7 animations are often more jerky on my friend's iPad air than they are on my iPad 2.
Owners of the iPad 2 should not have to look into other devices, considering how much they paid for their devices plus the fact that they could have bought them up to March.
Seems like Siri and retina display (whether or not you might care about them yourself) are already two things it can't do. Throw in a slower CPU and half the memory, and that's two more. Certainly not "nothing" and not even close to it. You might not care about those things, but that doesn't make them nothing.
Um, wasn't the iPad 2 still on sale, from Apple and retailers, up until the Air was launched last year? Although the tech is a few years old, to me, it seems like a poor idea to penalize folks who might have purchased a brand new device 1 year ago....
I believe 3GS was still on sale a bit before iOS 7 was released and it didn't get it. Nothing really penalizing about it though as it will still work just fine as it did before, and especially considering iPad 2 already got 4 major version upgrades.
I agree with this also. I think the rest will be supported also. I feel the 4s will be the last "small" iPhone to be supported and even then this will be it's last update.
I wouldn't be surprised if the iPad 2 is done. Once the stock is done Apple is done with it.
First off, just because something has only happened once, doesn't mean it won't become a trend. Second off, the trend you actually do cite is not an actual trend.
My fourth gen iPod touch ran iOS 5 perfectly. Similarly, the iPad 2 I am in possession of does not run iOS 7 all that well. Obviously our mileages are varying (another sign of impending lack of OS support), and obviously, you are taking this affront to the perceived viability of your precious iPad 2 more personally than you ought to.
Please see above.
Um...have you used any of the other A5 devices? Aside from the A5, they're all very different from the iPad 2 in terms of what they can and cannot do.
Also, how is simplifying development by dropping continued support for their longest-supported iPad greed?
You want greed, try being a first generation iPad owner. Try being a first generation iPad mini owner for that matter. Try actually owning an Apple device that, out of the gate, is doomed to have a shorter support lifespan than products that succeed it.
You have nothing to complain about if they drop support.
People kept buying it, so they kept selling it. I never thought buying a brand new non-refurbished iPad 2 past October 2012 was a good idea, but a lot of uninformed buyers did. Blame them. That doesn't change the fact that the hardware in that thing is aging.
Yeah, so?
I did?
Well, not anymore, fourth gen iPod touch breaks the record. Even if the iPad 2 gets dropped, there was more of a lead-time between discontinuation and WWDC.
Such politeness.
...Just like Apple drove the iOS ecosystem users straight in the hands of Google Android when the iPhone 3GS lost support last year or when the iPhone 3G lost support in 2010? Your logic doesn't follow; they'd be doing the same thing they did last year, with a phone one year newer. Sounds like business as usual. Also, outside the US, there are carriers that don't gouge you left and right for money in exchange for their subsidies. The US has something like the number 2 most corrupt cellular phone industry in the world, whereas places like the UK have something like the number 2 most civilized cell phone industry in the world. I'd imagine the mileage varies a bit country to country; but what do I know? I'm just an ignorant American.
For how many features it doesn't support, it's already on life-support. Dropping OS update support (for major releases at least) makes sense.
Yes, but supporting what is rumored to eventually be seven different screen resolutions for iOS and each stock app eventually costs Apple more than they want to be spending.
I have both. The iPad Air is a worlds better in terms of performance than the iPad 2.
No one is telling you to buy a new tablet. The only thing being said here is that the tablet which you happen to own may not receive another major release of the operating system. Which, after four major releases and support over the course of three and a half years is substantially better than what its predecessor ever had and is also likely to be substantially better than what its successor will have as well. You have nothing to complain about.
What planet I live on? Okaaaay.
I guess we'll just ignore the things I listed hardware and software wise (LTE, Retina, Siri, lightning connector, etc) and things I didn't list (3D flyover, navigation, airdrop, video stabilization, better front and rear cameras, face detection, etc).
Let me guess, "I don't need that stuff I never use it!". "My friends xxx does this and mine does that." I'm just being objective here. I hope for your sake the iPad 2 gets iOS 8 and you remain a happy customer for life.
Bur I guess to answer your question it would be Earth, more precisely would be reality.
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I think anyone on this forum would need to be playing dumb if they didn't realize the years old iPad 2 may not be supported for long if purchased recently. I think folks that didn't know any better, won't care.
My mother is a prime example. We (the kids) bought her an iPad 2 for Xmas. We all knew good an well it wouldn't get multiple upgrades. She doesn't though and I could spend a lifetime trying to tell her why she should be upset about that.
I wouldn't think the 32-bit SOC would currently be a disadvantage, there are still quite a few applications that run better than on 32-bit SOC mainly 3-D related applications. For example almost all of Gameloft games run terrible on the 5s compared to 5 (or what I've been told). I remember speaking to a developer on TouchArcade mentioning the difficulty coding their engine for the new SOC.
Well, the iPhone 6 appears to be one of those products that are only good at launch and suddenly much inferior a year later, like the iPhone 4 or iPad Mini or the iPad 3rd Gen. The 6S will get more RAM causing the software to be targeted towards it and Apple will leave features out of the 6 to make people upgrade, the iPhone 6 will end up slowed down like the 4.
I would hope for this too... (I don't have an iPad 2 any more, but my sister and mum do, and they both seem fine running iOS7, plus the iPad Mini 1 has the same internals, so I can't see any reason for them not to update it)
But a) they discontinued it mid-year to replace it with a newer-but-not-newest model at a lower price than the newest model. They did this for the iPod 4G with iOS 7 at almost the same time (presumably) for the same reason: not wanting to give it continued support.
and more importantly: b) the iPad 2 has been out ages now, its a perfectly capable device for running the latest OS, with almost no problems. This makes the iPad 2 a problem for Apple, with people not seeing a reason to upgrade - hence the declining iPad sales. Dropping support for it would likely give people a big nudge to upgrade.
Therefore, unfortunately, from a business point of view, it makes perfect sense for iOS8 not to support the iPad 2.
That's based on speculations and rumors. We don't know what it will or won't have. iPhone 5 for example is doing fine. And by the time the iPhone 6 comes out 64bit and iOS 8 (assuming it's an updated 7) will actually be ready for prime time.
IMO the iPhone 5S, iPad Air, rMini and mostly their supporting software wasn't ready at release. So for what you say to be true we have to ignore Apples latest examples.
Agreed, this has always annoyed me, but I'm guessing it's to do with the retina display being too much for the iPad to handle. Although it has improved with 7.1.
Thats optimization between the iPad 64 bit and iOS 7. The iPad 4 handles the retina effortlessly. iPad 3 is an example of a table that can't handle the retina with the supporting hardware it was given. Its almost embarrassing to use 3D Fly Over on an iPad 3. My 4S albeit much smaller screen is nice and smooth over a city like NYC, iPad 3 is a laggy jerky mess.
Hopefully that means iOS 8 will fix all the jerkiness... maybe that's one of the things they meant by "serious speed improvements" for iOS8?
When Apple announce it, is someone going to publish a list of all those who got it wrong so we can laugh at their inferior knowledge and a list of those of us who got it right so we can flaunt our superiority?
This is obviously something that people feel passionately about and we do need to know!
This is obviously something that people feel passionately about and we do need to know!
You're welcome.
It's not "just like" the 3GS. The cumulative sales of the iPhone 4 are much higer than of the iPhone 3GS. Scale changes things.
You're completely right about non-US carriers, but that doesn't change the fact the actual price difference between an iPhone or an Android handset is much bigger outside the US. As a result, the competition is much stronger (and market share much lower).