Who else hates all the landscape now?

[IgnatiusTheKing]

Can I ask why? When in landscape the keyboard covers so much screen I feel like I'm using an old LCD pager again. I like being able to see what I've written without scrolling forever.

I'm just trying to understand the appeal. Honest question!

While it's true that the landscape keyboard covers a lot of screen, my thumbs are too big to use on the portrait keyboard. I can type faster and more accurately with my thumbs than I can with my index finger, so landscape is ideal (for me) for email and text messaging.

 

[daneoni]

There's no satisfying some people

 

[i0Nic]

I totally agree that there should be a lock to portrait/landscape keyboard in settings for various apps that could be specified. When browsing the net on my iPhone in bed it's super annoying when it switches orientation at the slightest of tilts.

 

[gloss]

I agree that they should have an option in settings to allow you to lock the device in landscape or portrait, or to leave auto-rotate running.

 

[Small White Car]

I totally agree that there should be a lock to portrait/landscape keyboard in settings for various apps that could be specified.

I agree that they should have an option in settings to allow you to lock the device in landscape or portrait, or to leave auto-rotate running.

Yeah, there was a thread a few months back (I can't find it now) where people were coming up with methods for doing things like this. Not a system on/off setting, but rather a finger gesture or button click (3 times?) that would lock the orientation wherever it was. Then, doing it again would enable rotating again.

I liked that thread. I'm not looking to take landscape AWAY from people. I just want a way to take control of it!

 

[Mad Mac Maniac]

I definitely side with the OP. In FACT I just got on macrumors to complain about this very feature!!

Let me premise this by saying that I was never one of the landscape whiners. I've never even used it in safari before (occasionally for viewing web pages but never for typing).

The fact of the matter is, I do a lot of texting in bed, you know in the reclining position. This forces my to hold my iphone sideways and then... BOOM! Dang it NOT what i wanted... This just happened to me a few minutes ago which is why I got on here. You can search me, I actually complained about landscape in safari previously wishing that there were a way to disable it due to this very same reason.

I find typing much easier in the portrait mode anyways. Firstly, because I can only use one hand to type. If i couldn't do this I'd die. (yes hyperbole) secondly, it is more convenient to hold it that way because most apps have it that way, the home page is in portrait, and you can view more area that way. So it makes sense to me that way. I would prefer not to be flipping my phone back and forth all the time. and thirdly, apple has forced it down my throat. seriously. maybe if they had landscape mode across all apps when i first got my iphone, I'd use that one and get used to it. But they didn't so I needed to force myself to use portrait. Now it is the best and fastest way that I know how to type. landscape feels a little odd.

The point is apple shouldn't have suddenly shoved landscape down our throats. Like has previously mentioned they should have known that any big "feature" like this would also have some backlash so they should have created a disable feature. (preferably within each app. if you could say click on a corner of a screen while in the notes, or texting app etc, and it would have some options in there including "lock portrait" and "lock landscape". this would only lock it for this app until u unlocked it)

I'm going to honestly make a good effort to try to type in landscape mode for a while to see what all the fuss is about, and to see if I can get fast with it. BUT my point still stands that I want to be able to disable it, for times when I am laying down. Surely this happens to us ALL sometimes...

🙂

 

[GfPQqmcRKUvP]

I, too, hate the landscape switching in the new apps. I want to be able to use my phone in my bed while I'm laying down on my side!

 

[Doju]

You find it harder to type on a larger keyboard? I love it. Bigger keys = more accuracy. Do you have dainty girl fingers or something?

Same reason people prefer to type on a full sized keyboard rather than one on a netbook. >_>

I'm not against the option, though. But I'd keep it on.

 

[Mad Mac Maniac]

Yeah, there was a thread a few months back (I can't find it now) where people were coming up with methods for doing things like this. Not a system on/off setting, but rather a finger gesture or button click (3 times?) that would lock the orientation wherever it was. Then, doing it again would enable rotating again.

I liked that thread. I'm not looking to take landscape AWAY from people. I just want a way to take control of it!

Was this it? https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/656189/

 

[cualexander]

Pre 3.0 I had a jailbreak hack that would turn off the rotation in safari. it was useful if you were laying in bed and didn't want it rotating all the time.


So it's possible to turn this stuff off. just don't expect it from Apple. Even 3.0 still warrants the jailbreak

 

[Small White Car]

Was this it? https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/656189/

Similar! But the one I remember had some mock-up screen shots showing a lock image appearing on screen (looking like the volume up/down image now).

 

[jaw04005]

I toggle switch to turn it off would be appropriate. It was bad enough when Cover Flow and Safari would activate accidentally.

I'm actually surprised you can't turn it off simply from an accessibility standpoint.

 

[aforty]

I see why people would want landscape emails but I simply have no use for it. I type faster in regular mode than I do in landscape. That said, I find it annoying how sensitive the rotating is. I'm walking down the stairs reading my email and it flips to landscape mode for a few seconds. Very annoying.

 

[osin]

What ever Apple introduces there should be an option to disable it - just to keep everybody happy 😉

 

[queshy]

Apple can never win...haha...always there will be people disappointed with whatever new feature Apple adds in.

 

[Rat-Boy]

I type faster in regular mode than I do in landscape.

I honestly do not see how that is possible.

Not calling you a liar, just saying, how can that be possible?

At any rate, it should absolutely be an option and any argument to the contrary will fall short.

 

[GfPQqmcRKUvP]

I honestly do not see how that is possible.

Not calling you a liar, just saying, how can that be possible?

At any rate, it should absolutely be an option and any argument to the contrary will fall short.

Less distance between keys. That's how. If you're reasonably accurate, the predictive corrections and all that makes portrait typing faster (provided you don't have gorilla hands). You just don't have to move your fingers as far...

 

[Small White Car]

I honestly do not see how that is possible.

Not calling you a liar, just saying, how can that be possible?

For me, it has nothing to do with the size of the buttons, but the muscles in my thumbs.

In vertical mode my thumbs reach every key equally easily, with no strain. Any key is the same as any other, as far as my thumbs are concerned.

In landscape mode the A S and the K L parts of the keyboard put extra stress on my thumbs when I try to reach them, slowing me down. Obviously, this puts 'shift' and 'return' in the uncomfortable zone, and those get used a lot. The center of the keyboard is still fine, but the edges become much more difficult.

So when I type in landscape it strains the muscles in my thumbs and slows me down. That doesn't happen in vertical mode.

It has to do with how I hold the phone. In vertical mode I can get the phone further away from my palms. In horizontal I have to use my palm to stabalize the phone, so the keyboard is right next to the base of my thumb. Trying to push a button with the tip of your thumb when it's right NEXT to your thumb is hard. My thumb doesn't bend in half!

 

[GoCubsGo]

I agree that they should have an option in settings to allow you to lock the device in landscape or portrait, or to leave auto-rotate running.

I thought they would provide this, much like the kindle app for the iPhone.

Now that 3.0 is finally out people will stop bitching about things they don't have and bitch about things they do. 🙄

 

[Vercingetorix]

I, too, am in software development.

It's always a debate as to what should be the 'default,' what should be user defined, etc.

This is the case in large enterprise apps, or, in this case a mobile implementation of an Operating System.

Unfortunately, you can't make every change that every user wants, right when they want it in a large, robust application.

You make a priority list. You knock out what you think happens to be the priority, first.

Does that piss off some people? Ofcourse.

Will you get to everyone's little niche issue to make them happy? You hope to.

Sure, it would be nice for EVERYTHING to have a toggle, but then the less technically inclined users get overwhlemed when they open up the settings page and see 3000 settings.

It's a balance.

This isn't one of "3000 settings," or a "little niche issue"; this is a fundamental change to the way that the phone behaves in your hand. After two years of behaving one way, several core apps on the phone now behave in another. Seems reasonable to stick a toggle somewhere in settings for that.

 

[uberamd]

I guess that must be it.

I find the spacing between the keys makes it harder to type. Also, the way the phone presses into my hand when holding it sideways makes it hard to reach all the keys easily. So from my perspective, landscaping makes it harder to type AND harder to see what you're doing. I call that a lose-lose situation.

Obviously it appeals to a lot of folks out there, but those aren't things I like.

Oh well, like I said, I'm not expecting a solution here. (And yes, I do feel better now, for whoever asked that.)

I can type incredibly fast on the landscape keyboard. I love it. And a toggle would be nice for *some* people, but it would take away from the fluidity Apple has in place. Imagine going to rotate it, and oh wait crap I need to click home, go to Settings -> General -> Orientation -> Enable Landscape.

Sometimes people need to learn how to work with the device. Modify some of your workflows to better work with the features of the device and you will be happier instead of trying to modify the device to fit every individual on the planet. Its called being flexible (ready and able to change so as to adapt to different circumstances), and its an amazing concept some people here need to read up on.

 

[Arkanok]

I didn't bother reading the whole thread, but I gotta say, I effin love the landscape for sms and email; typing on the landscape keyboard is easier AND more comfortable than the portrait style. Anybody who doesn't think so is nuts.
Portrait is only good for one-handed typing, but I always use two hands to type on this thing and my hands are cramped when in portrait.

 

[cellocello]

I must say that a landscape 'threshold' adjustment option would be nice.

The landscape 'flip-over' feels like it's set to 'senstive' right now - I'd turn it down if I had the choice. Everything except putting the phone completely horizontal should keep it in portrait.

 

[Small White Car]

it would take away from the fluidity Apple has in place. Imagine going to rotate it, and oh wait crap I need to click home, go to Settings -> General -> Orientation -> Enable Landscape.

Most of the online solutions I've read online have been things like "tripple click locks the orientation where you are, tripple click again to unlock the screen and allow auto-rotating again." (I'd add the extra measure: "Leaving the current app un-locks the screen." Thus, any accidental locks would be cleared the next time you hit the home button.)

That's invisible to the 95% of the people who don't care, and it's nearly instant for the small number of us who do care.

So I don't really understand you complaint...

Its called being flexible (ready and able to change so as to adapt to different circumstances), and its an amazing concept some people here need to read up on.

...because that sounds EXACTLY like you're describing what I'm talking about here.

 

[GfPQqmcRKUvP]

Sometimes people need to learn how to work with the device. Modify some of your workflows to better work with the features of the device and you will be happier instead of trying to modify the device to fit every individual on the planet. Its called being flexible (ready and able to change so as to adapt to different circumstances), and its an amazing concept some people here need to read up on.

Even if the option is buried in the settins, you think the people who want the option to be there are going to constantly be going into those settings and toggling it on and off? No. This isn't learning how to work with the device, this is a simple request: Apple changed the way the device works, and the people who don't like the way that it works now have a legitimate gripe...Put one of those toggle things that are in almost every screen of the iPhone's settings. I promise, it won't affect you. And don't start with this "flexible" crap. Some people like the screen to stay how it is. It has nothing to do with being flexible, it's a preference. Shall we abolish all of our preferences? I'd prefer a sports car, but I guess car companies shouldn't offer different options. I guess I'll take a mini-van.

Look, I understand the whole UI issue; No one wants a million settings clogging up our setting screens because a few people don't like how it is. This isn't a niche need though, this is something they changed on the phone where some people didn't want it changed for good reason. Not because they don't want to adapt, but because they don't like it how it is.