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Is it just the picture or is the stitching getting bleed from the leather stain?

The leather is untreated so I don't expect bleed. There is no bleed on the stitching that I can see.

Let it dry naturally. Looks great. The darker areas are sweat. Water isn't a problem, but dirt and oil and whatever other toxins you sweat out can be.

The darker it gets the better IMO.

Just took this. Hope my sheets are clean.

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Let it dry naturally. Looks great. The darker areas are sweat. Water isn't a problem, but dirt and oil and whatever other toxins you sweat out can be.

Do you ever use glycerine saddle soap on untreated leather for the dirt and oil (I'd avoid anything with lye)? I wouldn't suggest doing so very often (you want it to develop a patina), but if it gets a bit of dirt on it, etc. is that an option?
 
Do you ever use glycerine saddle soap on untreated leather for the dirt and oil (I'd avoid anything with lye)? I wouldn't suggest doing so very often (you want it to develop a patina), but if it gets a bit of dirt on it, etc. is that an option?

Some purse forums say you can use saddle soap on fauve barenia. But that's a $30,000 (?) purse and this is a $500 (?) watch strap so I'm not too bothered to think of cleaning.

However, I did not expect it to be quite so hard to get from some reports.

Feels like we may have a limited item here so that's starting to give me pause if we don't see a noticeable increase in supply towards the holiday.
 
However, I did not expect it to be quite so hard to get from some reports.

Feels like we may have a limited item here so that's starting to give me pause if we don't see a noticeable increase in supply towards the holiday.

Yes, I read those purse forums. I expected them to be fairly limited, since they are sold only in a few stores, but I didn't expect it to be quite so hard to get. Apple could have priced these at $2500 if they wanted to (and I do think they will eventually position something between $1500 and $10,000 - it's a wide enough range). I figured by pricing it where they did, it would be only a semi-"limited" edition.
 
There is a 38mm Single Tour on eBay for $1225 right now that expires in 18 hours. It will be interesting to see what it ultimately fetches. There are only 2 bids so far. I doubt the $2000 buy-it-nows will sell at those levels. There seems to be an expectation that Apple and Hermes will come through with supply.
 
Yes, I read those purse forums. I expected them to be fairly limited, since they are sold only in a few stores, but I didn't expect it to be quite so hard to get. Apple could have priced these at $2500 if they wanted to (and I do think they will eventually position something between $1500 and $10,000 - it's a wide enough range). I figured by pricing it where they did, it would be only a semi-"limited" edition.

If I destroy a Patek Philippe strap they'll just sell me another. Most quality bands you replace easily - not cheaply, but easily.

I'd buy 2 of these bands if I could. But we can't!

I have a few limited edition watches. One had a $70 band I ran into the ground thinking it was a cheap replace - turns out they stopped production.
 
I'd buy 2 of these bands if I could. But we can't!

I have a few limited edition watches. One had a $70 band I ran into the ground thinking it was a cheap replace - turns out they stopped production.

The sales associate at the UES told me that AppleCare+ covered accidental damage for the bands (Hermes handles that). Did you buy that? You have another 55 days to do so if you haven't already.
 
The sales associate at the UES told me that AppleCare+ covered accidental damage for the bands (Hermes handles that). Did you buy that? You have another 55 days to do so if you haven't already.

He told me that too. Beaded guy? Glasses? He was over at the table helping the older women get setup.

I called BS. How can they cover a strap for 3 years that might be out of production in 3 months?

Who defines "damage" on a product that was previously alive and is in fact a state of decay?

I would love to hear someone from Hermès reaction to having to replace the strap for a deductible every few months. LOL
 
He told me that too. Beaded guy? Glasses? He was over at the table helping the older women get setup.

I called BS. How can they cover a strap for 3 years that might be out of production in 3 months?

Who defines "damage" on a product that was previously alive and is in fact a state of decay?

I would love to hear someone from Hermès reaction to having to replace the strap for a deductible every few months. LOL

The actual agreement doesn't mention bands or straps at all. It does disallow normal wear and tear, and intentional damage.

https://www.apple.com/legal/sales-support/applecare/applecareplus/docs/applecareplusednaen.html

It's limited to 2 replacements. My guess is it is Hermes' call as to what is "normal wear and tear."
 
He told me that too. Beaded guy? Glasses? He was over at the table helping the older women get setup.

I called BS. How can they cover a strap for 3 years that might be out of production in 3 months?

Who defines "damage" on a product that was previously alive and is in fact a state of decay?

I would love to hear someone from Hermès reaction to having to replace the strap for a deductible every few months. LOL

The AW Hermes isn't so short-lived that it'll be out of production in three months. We've already established that the standard warranty and AC+ cover the bands should they become defective, and the AW Hermes is no exception. Nobody can simply replace the strap for a deductible. It has to be defective (e.g., the connector failing to lock in place, etc.) and it doesn't cover normal wear and tear.
 
I do not think I can get a picture of how rich the leather looks upon drying. It's a much darker brown. Only it didn't happen on the other side of the strap which remained dry.

I'm tempted to get a brush and evenly coat it.
 
The AW Hermes isn't so short-lived that it'll be out of production in three months. We've already established that the standard warranty and AC+ cover the bands should they become defective, and the AW Hermes is no exception. Nobody can simply replace the strap for a deductible. It has to be defective (e.g., the connector failing to lock in place, etc.) and it doesn't cover normal wear and tear.

I was told AC+ covers accidental damage. Like banging it, dropping it, etc.
 
I think I figured it out. They don't replace the band. They'll replace the whole package I bet.

If it's just the watch that's defective or damaged, they'll replace the watch body only and you transfer the existing band to it. That's how it's done with AW white box replacements.

If, however, you've flattened the whole thing with a steamroller they'll of course replace the whole package. It'd be exceedingly rare that you'd damage the band without damaging the watch itself.
 
If it's just the watch that's defective or damaged, they'll replace the watch body only and you transfer the existing band to it. That's how it's done with AW white box replacements.

If, however, you've flattened the whole thing with a steamroller they'll of course replace the whole package. It'd be exceedingly rare that you'd damage the band without damaging the watch itself.

But they have a stack of SS and sport cases and all the bands. They don't got the Hermès case and band. They're bundled. I bet that's why the AC+ is more money - I bet you get a whole new bundle.
 
But they have a stack of SS and sport cases and all the bands. They don't got the Hermès case and band. They're bundled. I bet that's why the AC+ is more money - I bet you get a whole new bundle.

No, I don't think so. If it's just the watch that's defective or damaged, they'll send you a Hermes watch body white box replacement. AC+ is more because of the longer warranty.
 
No, I don't think so. If it's just the watch that's defective or damaged, they'll send you a Hermes watch body white box replacement. AC+ is more because of the longer warranty.

Then you assume there's a box of Hermès watch cases sitting in Cupertino? I don't know what I do.

Where are they assembled? If China, I bet the only Hermès in the US are already bundled.
 
Then you assume there's a box of Hermès watch cases sitting in Cupertino? I don't know what I do.

Where are they assembled? If China, I bet the only Hermès in the US are already bundled.

There's nothing really special about the AW Hermes. All AWs are made in China, even the $10,000-17,000 versions.
 
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There's nothing really special about the AW Hermes. All AWs are made in China, even the $10,000-17,000 versions.

I understand that it's made in China, but what I'm wondering is - is the band attached in China or in the US?

Because if the band is shipped from France to China, and it's assembled and boxed in China, I do not think any cases are making it across the Pacific without the band.

In the past when I've gone to my Apple Store for a recall on my phone (such as the camera) no repair was performed. They took my phone, wiped it, and handed me a brand new phone, box, headset, charger, etc.

So you're saying if I file a claim on a SS steel watch they'll just hand me a case in a plastic bag? Interesting if so.

But I still maintain that if your Hermès or Edition go in, you'll get a whole new package. I do not believe these cases, or these bands, exist in the United States independent of one another. I do not believe there are plastic containers with loose cases and loose bands in the United States. I think there are just boxed, ready to sell versions.
 
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Ahhhhh, thank you. I had missed that.

So what's a girl to do who lives in rural NW Pennsylvania, no where near ANY of the locations?!! Can they (or will they be able to) be ordered online?

Nope. You gotta get to civilization.

I flew 2+ hours from Jacksonville to New York. Then AirTrain, subways, and walking.

Earn it. EARN IT.

(or eBay)
 
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I understand that it's made in China, but what I'm wondering is - is the band attached in China or in the US?

Because if the band is shipped from France to China, and it's assembled and boxed in China, I do not think any cases are making it across the Pacific without the band.

In the past when I've gone to my Apple Store for a recall on my phone (such as the camera) no repair was performed. They took my phone, wiped it, and handed me a brand new phone, box, headset, charger, etc.

So you're saying if I file a claim on a SS steel watch they'll just hand me a case in a plastic bag? Interesting if so.

But I still maintain that if your Hermès or Edition go in, you'll get a whole new package. I do not believe these cases, or these bands, exist in the United States independent of one another. I do not believe there are plastic containers with loose cases and loose bands in the United States. I think there are just boxed, ready to sell versions.

Making the AW Hermes body requires no contribution from Hermes so it's conceivable that Apple will have watch body only white box replacements for the Hermes models. Replacement bands are handled through Hermes and it remains to be seen whether they're loose bands, or a total replacement as you claim.
 
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