Who else plans to get the Apple Watch Hermès?

[bmac4]

It's been obvious since the announcement of the Hermes collaboration that you aren't a fan. Why do you even bother?

I have no idea about the user you are quoting, but in my case I have already bought the SS version of the AW. I also have the link bracelet which puts me pretty close single tour. I would love to have a nice band to add to my collection, but I am not buying another $1200 AW just to get the band.

I also think the analogy of putting nice rims on a base model car does not work. First the SS AW is not the base model, and putting a Hermes band on the watch would look no different than the Hermes one. The watch face would only be different. Also a SS model with a link bracelet cost $200 less than the Hermes. Yes the Hermes is limited, but I don't understand why selling the band would be a bad idea. You guys that want the exclusive Hermes edition will still have the watch faces, and I don't think selling the band only would make it any more exclusive.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

So it's not enough to simply want a higher quality band than what Apple offers? Is it enough just to have access to the Hermes face buried within the OS, if the customer decided they would rather use their delightful new Tapping Mickey face with their $750 Hermes band? By etching "Hermes" logo on the base model stainless Watch case, is Apple merely putting high end rims on their base model?

Not if you can get the real thing for just $190 more and it'll hold its value better too when you sell. If the price differential were larger then yes.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

I also think the analogy of putting nice rims on a base model car does not work. First the SS AW is not the base model, and putting a Hermes band on the watch would look no different than the Hermes one. The watch face would only be different.

Neither does a base model car retrofitted with the rims and other exterior bells and whistles to resemble the higher model. The point is it won't be an AW Hermes and it's a bad value when the real thing is just $190 more (for the Double Tour).

 

[bmac4]

Neither does a base model car retrofitted with the rims and other exterior bells and whistles to resemble the higher model. The point is it won't be an AW Hermes and it's a bad value when the real thing is just $190 more (for the Double Tour).

What I am saying is that the SS is not the base model of the AW. Add in a link bracelet and you are talking about the same price range at the Hermes single tour. Having a SS AW is like having a nice Mercedes, and the Hermes is a limited edition model. Mercedes would not stop you from adding the custom leather seats from the limited edition to your already optioned out Merc , but that still does not make it the limited edition. They are just giving people more options. It's never a bad thing.

 

[Night Spring]

But with no Hermes face though. That's like putting rims from a high-end model on the base model, but it's still the lowly base model.

I really just want the band. The Hermes face would be a nice extra, but it's likely I wouldn't use it very much, as I really like the Solar face, and don't use other faces that often.

 

[Night Spring]

Not if you can get the real thing for just $190 more and it'll hold its value better too when you sell. If the price differential were larger then yes.

Where are you getting the $190 more?

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Where are you getting the $190 more?

From KPOM's post.

 

[Night Spring]

From KPOM's post.

I don't see any number "$190" in that post.

In any case, if someone already has an Apple Watch and just wants an Herrmes band, then having to buy the entire Hermes watch just to get the band isn't just $190 more, no matter how you do the math.

 

[galavanter]

I love the 38mm size. It fits like a classic Rolex, and doesn't read as much like a big digital screen on the wrist from a distance.

I'm considering the 38mm, as I long ago decided 40mm was the largest size for me in mechanical watches. But I see that the 38mm Hermès strap only fits to 180mm, and I have a 7" wrist. I'm concerned it won't fit or will be on the last hole and look funny. Can you be of any assistance regarding my concerns?

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

I don't see any number "$190" in that post.

In any case, if someone already has an Apple Watch and just wants an Herrmes band, then having to buy the entire Hermes watch just to get the band isn't just $190 more, no matter how you do the math.

From KPOM's post: "So $510 for the Double Tour band and buckle under the table. Add $550 for the cheapest Apple Watch SS and it is $1060 vs $1250 for the real deal."

$190 is the difference. My point is spending $510 just for the standard Hermes Double Tour band to make an unofficial AW Hermes seems like a bad value when $190 more gets you the real thing, plus the Hermes watch face, Hermes engraved on the case, and the Hermes box (which can be valuable on its own). Additionally, if you decide to sell it you'll most likely recoup a higher % of your initial cost compared to just the standard Hermes band + base model SS. So better to sell your existing AW if you're interested in the AW Hermes rather than pay $510 for the standard Double Tour.

 

[Night Spring]

I'm considering the 38mm, as I long ago decided 40mm was the largest size for me in mechanical watches. But I see that the 38mm Hermès strap only fits to 180mm, and I have a 7" wrist. I'm concerned it won't fit or will be on the last hole and look funny. Can you be of any assistance regarding my concerns?

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You can't directly compare Apple Watch sizes with conventional watch sizes, as one measures the height and the other measures the width (I forget which is which). I think if you have 7 inch wrists, then the 42 should fit you fine.

 

[Night Spring]

From KPOM's post: "So $510 for the Double Tour band and buckle under the table. Add $550 for the cheapest Apple Watch SS and it is $1060 vs $1250 for the real deal."

$190 is the difference. My point is spending $510 just for the standard Hermes Double Tour band to make an unofficial AW Hermes seems like a bad value when $190 more gets you the real thing, plus the Hermes watch face, Hermes engraved on the case, and the Hermes box (which can be valuable on its own). Additionally, if you decide to sell it you'll most likely recoup a higher % of your initial cost compared to just the standard Hermes band + base model SS.

Again, I'm talking about this from the point of view of an Apple Watch owner who already has an Apple Watch and just wants a Hermes band. The box, logo, etc might all have some value, but it costs me an extra $1100+ to get all that. If KPOM is right about the cost of the band by itself, and it's $510, then I'm not going to spend, oh, what is it, another $500-600 just to get the box, logo, etc. And if I ever get a Hermes band, there is no way I'll ever sell it. I'll wear it until it falls apart and I can't wear it anymore.

EDIT: Obviously, if you don't already own an Apple Watch, then it makes no sense to go buy an SS watch and then go buy a Hermes band separately just to save $190.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Again, I'm talking about this from the point of view of an Apple Watch owner who already has an Apple Watch and just wants a Hermes band. The box, logo, etc might all have some value, but it costs me an extra $1100+ to get all that. If KPOM is right about the cost of the band by itself, and it's $510, then I'm not going to spend, oh, what is it, another $500-600 just o get the box, logo, etc. And if I ever get a Hermes band, there is no way I'll ever sell it. I'll wear it until it falls apart and I can't wear it anymore.

I think it's better to offload your standard SS first if you're going to get the AW Hermes. Buying, for example, the link bracelet separately for $449 makes more sense because you're not getting anything else but the link bracelet and it'd still be an official AW Link Bracelet. However, attaching a stock Hermes band to an AW doesn't make it an AW Hermes and it seems to be a bad value at $510 for the Double Tour (not including the Apple adapters which you must retrofit).

I'm not saying nobody should do it, but that it's a bad deal IMO especially considering the resale value.

 

[galavanter]

You can't directly compare Apple Watch sizes with conventional watch sizes, as one measures the height and the other measures the width (I forget which is which). I think if you have 7 inch wrists, then the 42 should fit you fine.

Why tell a man what he wants, when he has already stated what he wants? I'm not comparing anything, I would just like some feedback on the strap length.

I've bought and returned the 42mm the next day. It didn't fit me just fine. But again, why post about something so utterly subjective? By the way, Apple measures the Apple Watch from top to bottom. If by other watches you mean round, the diameter is the same whether it's measured by the height or the width.

I've had round watches from 36mm Explorers to 55mm G-Shock Aviators. I'm wearing my Pebble Steel now, which is 38mm top to bottom, not including the backhoe teeth triple lugs. It's the absolute perfect size for a man that wants a classically sized watch that will allow the strap to compliment the time piece on the TOP of the wrist. If he's me that is...

 

[Night Spring]

I've bought and returned the 42mm the next day. It didn't fit me just fine.

Okay then, why didn't you just say so, instead of bringing up mechanical watch sizes?

And sorry, I have no idea how the Hermes Apple watch strap will fit you. You'll just have to get to a Hermes or Apple store that sells them and try one on.

 

[KPOM]

Why tell a man what he wants, when he has already stated what he wants? I'm not comparing anything, I would just like some feedback on the strap length.

I've bought and returned the 42mm the next day. It didn't fit me just fine. But again, why post about something so utterly subjective? By the way, Apple measures the Apple Watch from top to bottom. If by other watches you mean round, the diameter is the same whether it's measured by the height or the width

The best would be to try it on in person. At 180mm there is still over an inch of strap (enough to go through the two mini loops. I found that the Hermes strap fits a little looser on me than the Classic Band from my old Apple Watch.

 

[Jvjlite]

Why tell a man what he wants, when he has already stated what he wants? I'm not comparing anything, I would just like some feedback on the strap length.

I've bought and returned the 42mm the next day. It didn't fit me just fine. But again, why post about something so utterly subjective? By the way, Apple measures the Apple Watch from top to bottom. If by other watches you mean round, the diameter is the same whether it's measured by the height or the width.

I've had round watches from 36mm Explorers to 55mm G-Shock Aviators. I'm wearing my Hermès Pebble Steel now, which is 38mm top to bottom, not including the backhoe teeth triple lugs. It's the absolute perfect size for a man that wants a classically sized watch that will allow the strap to compliment the time piece on the TOP of the wrist. If he's me that is...

I PM'ed you. Check your messages.

 

[bmac4]

I think it's better to offload your standard SS first if you're going to get the AW Hermes. Buying, for example, the link bracelet separately for $449 makes more sense because you're not getting anything else but the link bracelet and it'd still be an official AW Link Bracelet. However, attaching a stock Hermes band to an AW doesn't make it an AW Hermes and it seems to be a bad value at $510 for the Double Tour (not including the Apple adapters which you must retrofit).

I'm not saying nobody should do it, but that it's a bad deal IMO especially considering the resale value.

That is still not a good deal. There is no way you would get your money back from selling your SS. I bought mine with the leather loop, and it totaled at $750 I think. I would be lucky to get $600 from it right now. I also bought the link bracelet, but let's say you bought the SS with link bracelet. That was $1000 right there. The best offer I see for a used one is $799. You have just lost $200.

So let's say you sold it for $800. The cheapest Hermes AW is $1200. That means you are spending another $400 for the Hermes. That is best case. Most of the watches I saw were more like $600. You are looking at about the same price and just buying the band. You then have to deal with trying to sell your AW. That is never fun. I think it would much easier to just buy the band.

 

[galavanter]

The best would be to try it on in person. At 180mm there is still over an inch of strap (enough to go through the two mini loops. I found that the Hermes strap fits a little looser on me than the Classic Band from my old Apple Watch.

So on the last hole it doesn't look goofy like many straps do. That's good to know. I'm a trucker on the road and trying on is unfortunately not an option. Not even Denver has enough money for these apparently. Id be buying off the bay. I live in L.A.,ut don't get there for months at a time. What is your wrist size? A wrist shot of your 38mm buckle would sure make my day. I'm negotiating with a seller now.

 

[KPOM]

So on the last hole it doesn't look goofy like many straps do. That's good to know. I'm a trucker on the road and trying on is unfortunately not an option. Not even Denver has enough money for these apparently. Id be buying off the bay. I live in L.A.,ut don't get there for months at a time. What is your wrist size? A wrist shot of your 38mm buckle would sure make my day. I'm negotiating with a seller now.

Unfortunately I have a 155mm wrist, so it's probably not a good comparison. You can tell from the crease where I buckle the watch.

Even Chicago and Dallas apparently aren't good enough to get the Apple Watch Hermes. Maybe that will change with Version 2. I bought mine on my last trip to New York.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

That is still not a good deal. There is no way you would get your money back from selling your SS. I bought mine with the leather loop, and it totaled at $750 I think. I would be lucky to get $600 from it right now. I also bought the link bracelet, but let's say you bought the SS with link bracelet. That was $1000 right there. The best offer I see for a used one is $799. You have just lost $200.

So let's say you sold it for $800. The cheapest Hermes AW is $1200. That means you are spending another $400 for the Hermes. That is best case. Most of the watches I saw were more like $600. You are looking at about the same price and just buying the band. You then have to deal with trying to sell your AW. That is never fun. I think it would much easier to just buy the band.

And you have to consider one year down the line when you might want to sell your AW Hermes for the newer model. My point all along is a true AW Hermes will be worth more than a base SS + a standard Hermes band retrofitted with the Apple adapters. I'd cut my losses now and just get the real thing.

 

[bmac4]

And you have to consider one year down the line when you might want to sell your AW Hermes for the newer model. My point all along is a true AW Hermes will be worth more than a base SS + a standard Hermes band retrofitted with the Apple adapters. I'd cut my losses now and just get the real thing.

How do you know that? We don't know that they will hold their value any more so than the SS. I don't think these watches are as special as you think they are. The band is really nice, and it might hold its value, but the actually watch is nothing special at all.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

How do you know that? We don't know that they will hold their value any more so than the SS. I don't think these watches are as special as you think they are. The band is really nice, and it might hold its value, but the actually watch is nothing special at all.

I think it's logical that people would pay more for a true AW Hermes than a base SS + stock Hermes band retrofitted with Apple adapters sans the Hermes watch face, Hermes engraved on the case, and especially the Hermes box. You'll recoup more of the initial cost this way as the difference is only $190 (for the Double Tour).

 

[Jvjlite]

I'm considering the 38mm, as I long ago decided 40mm was the largest size for me in mechanical watches. But I see that the 38mm Hermès strap only fits to 180mm, and I have a 7" wrist. I'm concerned it won't fit or will be on the last hole and look funny. Can you be of any assistance regarding my concerns?

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How the single tour Hermès fits on my 165mm (6.5") wrist.

 

[bmac4]

I think it's logical that people would pay more for a true AW Hermes than a base SS + stock Hermes band retrofitted with Apple adapters sans the Hermes watch face, Hermes engraved on the case, and especially the Hermes box. You'll recoup more of the initial cost this way as the difference is only $190 (for the Double Tour).

Do you really think a used leather band is going to fetch a really good price? Someone's used leather band would not be my ideal buy.