Who else plans to get the Apple Watch Hermès?

[Thai]

I am talking about your post about Hermès. You talked down the quality of the classic buckle in that thread, and then decided to open your own. Then you come here talking about how great the leather is from Hermès. Why did you not just come here first? Anyways who cares, I tired of all your post about Hermès.

Great keep showing your appreciation.

I am not basing the true value of the Hermès band off an eBay posting. I was just showing a Hermès band can be found under $300. I have no idea what the value of the band alone should be. Hermès will not sell them like that.

Ok so you are calling bs because you called all the shops on release and they did not have them? Hey did you try and call Apple about the AW for the first month as well? They did not have any. Does that mean the AW is limited as well? Since you believe this is such a limited watch (make it sound like they made 100 of them) show me a link that shows just how limited it is.

Oh dear you have to be kidding me right? You think because the Hermès has their name I graved on it, a custom watch face, and leather band it's going to hold value? What happens when you battery dies in 5? The watch does not work anymore does it? Should it still be worth $1100? At best you could get the value of the band, which after 5 years I would think is much less. Again in the same place the rest of the AWs are in 5 years. Sorry this is not the special edition Swiss you are hoping it is. Stop looking at this like its a typical time piece. You are going to be very disappointed.

What thread are you talking about where i talked DOWN on classic buckle in ANY thread??? Show me. WTF are you reading??

Wait...you mentioned earlier why Apple/Hermes is OVER-CHARGING...remember? You said that Hermes is only worth $200-300...remember?

You said: "You can get a Hermès band by itself for $200 to $300. Why are the Apple ones so special?"

Short-term memory loss?

If you now say that you have NO IDEA what the VALUE of the Hermes band...then...WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT in the first place??? What makes you think Hermes AW is so overpriced if you have NO IDEA its worth in the first place??

Are you taking crazy pills?

Isn't the burden of proof on YOU since you claim that you read so many articles stating that it is mass produced...show me ONE such article. Oh wait, we know that you BS a lot. I understand.

Hint: i have been trying to get one for a while now...been calling more than once.

Battery dies...and? You can't replace it? iFixit states that it can be relatively easy to do.

Oh my goodness, Leica camera has run out of film!!! It is worthless now!!!!

You are digging a deep hole...keep digging....

 

[bmac4]

What thread are you talking about where i talked DOWN on classic buckle in ANY thread??? Show me. WTF are you reading??

Wait...you mentioned earlier why Apple/Hermes is OVER-CHARGING...remember? You said that Hermes is only worth $200-300...remember?

You said: "You can get a Hermès band by itself for $200 to $300. Why are the Apple ones so special?"

Short-term memory loss?

If you now say that you have NO IDEA what the VALUE of the Hermes band...then...WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT in the first place??? What makes you think Hermes AW is so overpriced if you have NO IDEA its worth in the first place??

Are you taking crazy pills?

Isn't the burden of proof on YOU since you claim that you read so many articles stating that it is mass produced...show me ONE such article. Oh wait, we know that you BS a lot. I understand.

Hint: i have been trying to get one for a while now...been calling more than once.

Battery dies...and? You can't replace it? iFixit states that it can be relatively easy to do.

Oh my goodness, Leica camera has run out of film!!! It is worthless now!!!!

You are digging a deep hole...keep digging....

I am saying the band does not have a band new value. The value second hand brand new is $200-$300, not $600. That is what people are willing to pay for the band alone. Whether or not that would be the case of Apple or Hermès sold them alone I have no idea.

Saying saying they were overpriced is based on cost to make them. Just like the AW and iPhone are overpriced. I am not saying I don't buy them, but this band is even more overpriced then any of the AW bands.


Because you have been trying to get one means they are limited? You know as well as I do Apple does not release there numbers.
This article while not knowing why, suggest maybe Apple limited the run or Hermès could not keep up.
http://fortune.com/2016/01/20/apple-watch-hermes-online/
The thing is, you can get an Hermès right now at Apple.com. I now some colored bands are sold out, but you can still get one. Also if you are so dead set on getting one, why not go online. People are selling theirs right and left, and selling them for about as much at Apple does. Also Macrumors has a section for buying and selling. I am sure someone would be happy to share with you.

I am not digging myself deeper. You have no clue what you are talking about. That battery you replace so easy, would go is it going to do? The watch will most likely not run on the newest iPhone, so you have just a watch with outdated software that no longer is smart. The whole purpose of the watch mind you. Do you really think the watch will be worth $1100 in 5 years? Who wants a smart watch that is no longer smart?

 

[redrog]

At $1150, you cannot buy "finest Swiss made mechanical watch" of any kind! (I am very much into mechanical watches...can't wait for your examples!)

Show me a Rolex that i can buy new at $1500.

$300...not many SAPPHIRE watch of any kind are sold at that price....

Brand positioning is done with the AW EDITION, not Hermes. Hermes AW was made (IMO) to bridge the large gap b/w AW SS and Gold Edition and also to compete with other high end upcoming smartwatches (e.g. TAG Connect).

Who is discounting Hermes Watch??? Dude, where?! I want one! Show me please!

Hell, even the flawless "eBay criteria" that bmac4 uses cannot help you there! New Hermes AW on eBay is selling...wait for this...OVER LIST PRICE!!!

"What'chu talkin' 'bout, Willis?"

Here is the eBay listing of all Hermes AW 42mm as of 2/12/16: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...+wat.TRS2&_nkw=apple+watch+hermes+42&_sacat=0

Lowest priced 42mm Hermes single tour is over $1300 (after shipping) from Australia! Most are well over $1400! (List price is $1150)

Where is this massive discounts you talking about on Hermes AW?

Please tell me that you have found a place that is selling these Hermes AW at huge discounts!!

Are Apple Watch SS with the amazing LINK bracelet being sold OVER LIST too??? Oh, never mind.

Before you break into total punctuation epilepsy, I think you should go back and read what I actually said.

 

[Thai]

I am saying the band does not have a band new value. The value second hand brand new is $200-$300, not $600. That is what people are willing to pay for the band alone. Whether or not that would be the case of Apple or Hermès sold them alone I have no idea.

Saying saying they were overpriced is based on cost to make them. Just like the AW and iPhone are overpriced. I am not saying I don't buy them, but this band is even more overpriced then any of the AW bands.


Because you have been trying to get one means they are limited? You know as well as I do Apple does not release there numbers.
This article while not knowing why, suggest maybe Apple limited the run or Hermès could not keep up.
http://fortune.com/2016/01/20/apple-watch-hermes-online/
The thing is, you can get an Hermès right now at Apple.com. I now some colored bands are sold out, but you can still get one. Also if you are so dead set on getting one, why not go online. People are selling theirs right and left, and selling them for about as much at Apple does. Also Macrumors has a section for buying and selling. I am sure someone would be happy to share with you.

I am not digging myself deeper. You have no clue what you are talking about. That battery you replace so easy, would go is it going to do? The watch will most likely not run on the newest iPhone, so you have just a watch with outdated software that no longer is smart. The whole purpose of the watch mind you. Do you really think the watch will be worth $1100 in 5 years? Who wants a smart watch that is no longer smart?

Ok, SECOND hand value is $200-300...what does that have to do with Hermes AW being sold NEW for $1150? Why does $200-300 have any relation to Hermes AW value? When did we ever talk about SECOND HAND stuff??!!

You have no idea on a lot of things...yet still writing about things you have no clue about. Weird, no?

Cost to make them? Do YOU know how much it cost to make Hermes band? If you do not know, then why make such broad assumptions? Everything up to now for you is based on SECOND hand eBAY Hermes band cost. Do you know how absurd your argument is?! I am being dead honest here.

Thanks for the article which CLEARLY states that Hermes AW is limited in supply. Thank you.

Why are some are sold out? Didn't you said earlier that Hermes makes THOUSANDS of these things? Barenia 42 Single Tour has been sold out even BEFORE it went on-line. 38mm Barenia went off-line soon after that. Now, only the black is available...and shipping time is being pushed back and back suggesting that supply is getting quite low...and likely disappear within next week or so.

As for buying used, i prefer not unless a good deal comes up. Also, i have no idea what i am gonna do with my current AW.

People are selling Hermes AW left and right??? Where? Show me.

Doesn't Apple replace iPhone battery for $75? What makes you think AW is any different? Sure, it may costs a bit more...and? iFixit states that Apple made the battery to be replaceable.

How does AW connect to iPhone? Bluetooth and Wifi. Future iPhones won't have BT?!!

You're telling me that within 3-5 years, Apple will ABANDON all AW 1st gen owners, even those that paid $17,000??

Why do you think AW will lose "smarts" after 5 years?

The problem here is that your arguments are crap...and you're pulling out ridiculous statements. Stop it. Just stop.

 

[bmac4]

Ok, SECOND hand value is $200-300...what does that have to do with Hermes AW being sold NEW for $1150? Why does $200-300 have any relation to Hermes AW value? When did we ever talk about SECOND HAND stuff??!!

You have no idea on a lot of things...yet still writing about things you have no clue about. Weird, no?

Cost to make them? Do YOU know how much it cost to make Hermes band? If you do not know, then why make such broad assumptions? Everything up to now for you is based on SECOND hand eBAY Hermes band cost. Do you know how absurd your argument is?! I am being dead honest here.

Thanks for the article which CLEARLY states that Hermes AW is limited in supply. Thank you.

Why are some are sold out? Didn't you said earlier that Hermes makes THOUSANDS of these things? Barenia 42 Single Tour has been sold out even BEFORE it went on-line. 38mm Barenia went off-line soon after that. Now, only the black is available...and shipping time is being pushed back and back suggesting that supply is getting quite low...and likely disappear within next week or so.

As for buying used, i prefer not unless a good deal comes up. Also, i have no idea what i am gonna do with my current AW.

People are selling Hermes AW left and right??? Where? Show me.

Doesn't Apple replace iPhone battery for $75? What makes you think AW is any different? Sure, it may costs a bit more...and? iFixit states that Apple made the battery to be replaceable.

How does AW connect to iPhone? Bluetooth and Wifi. Future iPhones won't have BT?!!

You're telling me that within 3-5 years, Apple will ABANDON all AW 1st gen owners, even those that paid $17,000??

Why do you think AW will lose "smarts" after 5 years?

The problem here is that your arguments are crap...and you're pulling out ridiculous statements. Stop it. Just stop.

I am not even going to bother with half your message because it's crap.

Do you really not understand oh the AW works with the iPhone? Yes they do connect with BT and Wifi, but you have to be running a certain version of iOS on the phone and a certain version of watchOS on your AW. Currently you have to being running iOS 9.2 or higher and watchOS 2.0 or higher. Once iOS 9.3 comes out you will have to be running the newest version of watchOS for it to work. Once iPhones start shipping with new iOS, the watchOS is going to need to be updated. At some point just like iPhone, Apple is going to stop supporting older watches. They can't move forward with the software if they keep having to support older software. The same thing happens to the iPhone.

My whole point exactly. She Apple will abandon a $15,000 in the future. That is why people are saying how crazy it is the pay these prices for watches that will be abandoned in 5 years. Seriously go look it up. The AW Hermès or no will not be supported years down the road. If you believe that will happened, you will need to look back at history for Apple. Sure Apple try to support devices as long as they can, but at some point the AW first gen will not be supported on iOS.

 

[Thai]

I am not even going to bother with half your message because it's crap.

My whole point exactly. She Apple will abandon a $15,000 in the future. That is why people are saying how crazy it is the pay these prices for watches that will be abandoned in 5 years. Seriously go look it up. The AW Hermès or no will not be supported years down the road. If you believe that will happened, you will need to look back at history for Apple. Sure Apple try to support devices as long as they can, but at some point the AW first gen will not be supported on iOS.

You won't bother with it because your arguments up to now (including your last) is pure utter junk.

Has Apple ever sold an iPhone for $17,000?

Apple will abandon at 5 years? Source? Link?

Wanna bet with real money?

BTW, where is Hermes AW being sold left and right by their owners???? Still waiting.

 

[bmac4]

You won't bother with it because your arguments up to now (including your last) is pure utter junk.

Has Apple ever sold an iPhone for $17,000?

Apple will abandon at 5 years? Source? Link?

Wanna bet with real money?

BTW, where is Hermes AW being sold left and right by their owners???? Still waiting.

Does that matter if Apple has sold a $17,000 device?


Read:
http://www.howtogeek.com/229465/how-to-update-your-apple-watch-to-watch-os-2.0/
You can't run watchOS 2.0 without have iOS 9 on your phone. At some point the AW is going to stop supporting new software. Do you realize what the AW is made of? It's a computer just like the iPhone. Those parts get old, and can't run new software. At some point Apple will have to update the iOS and watchOS software. The hardware will no longer be able to run the new software. This has been happening for years and years with computers. The watch is no different. Sorry that hoped Apple would not abandon $17,000 watch, but if they are to stay competitive in the smart watch market they will have to keep innovating. That means new watches with new software. Can the iPhone 4 run iOS 9? No it can not. Watch what happens in 5 years with the AW.

 

[Thai]

Does that matter if Apple has sold a $17,000 device?


Read:
http://www.howtogeek.com/229465/how-to-update-your-apple-watch-to-watch-os-2.0/
You can't run watchOS 2.0 without have iOS 9 on your phone. At some point the AW is going to stop supporting new software. Do you realize what the AW is made of? It's a computer just like the iPhone. Those parts get old, and can't run new software. At some point Apple will have to update the iOS and watchOS software. The hardware will no longer be able to run the new software. This has been happening for years and years with computers. The watch is no different. Sorry that hoped Apple would not abandon $17,000 watch, but if they are to stay competitive in the smart watch market they will have to keep innovating. That means new watches with new software. Can the iPhone 4 run iOS 9? No it can not. Watch what happens in 5 years with the AW.

And AW needs to do what again? Does it need cellular frequencies to be updated? Does it need to play Modern Combat 5 on it with 60 FPS? So, how is it the same as iPhones again?

 

[bmac4]

And AW needs to do what again? Does it need cellular frequencies to be updated? Does it need to play Modern Combat 5 on it with 60 FPS? So, how is it the same as iPhones again?

Seriously are you this crazy? Honestly I am asking. At some point that processor inside our AW will stop being able to support software updates with the AW. Do you know how a computer works? Just because it does not run games does not mean there will be features added to watchOS that the current processor can run.

I will say this for the 3 time, this is not a typical watch. Smart watches are a much different kind of watch. You cannot keep looking at it like a regular watch that just needs a battery every few years. Smart watches run off a computer, computers get outdated and replaced. Same thing with the watch. Look at android wear. The first gen Moto 360 cannot be paired with android wear on iOS. The software is already outdated and it's just a little over a year old. Also many of the first gen android wear watches do not support the wifi connection because they don't have the parts to do it. As much as you want your expensive watch to last years and years. It's just not going to happen.

 

[Thai]

Seriously are you this crazy? Honestly I am asking. At some point that processor inside our AW will stop being able to support software updates with the AW. Do you know how a computer works? Just because it does not run games does not mean there will be features added to watchOS that the current processor can run.

I will say this for the 3 time, this is not a typical watch. Smart watches are a much different kind of watch. You cannot keep looking at it like a regular watch that just needs a battery every few years. Smart watches run off a computer, computers get outdated and replaced. Same thing with the watch. Look at android wear. The first gen Moto 360 cannot be paired with android wear on iOS. The software is already outdated and it's just a little over a year old. Also many of the first gen android wear watches do not support the wifi connection because they don't have the parts to do it. As much as you want your expensive watch to last years and years. It's just not going to happen.

Who is talking about future features? As long as Apple provides connection with iOS (not that hard) via BT, it works as good 5 years from now as it does today. Why do you think Apple went to the extent of putting sapphire lens on the heart rate sensors? Apple designed this thing to work over the long haul. (Apple could have put sapphire in front and regular glass/plastic in back over sensor and call it a day.)

And yes, i understand how computer works. LOL

Remember, AW has a hidden data port. So, future features may be designed within bands that connect to the AW via data port.

I think that Apple has planned ahead for the Apple Watch than you think. This is NOT an iPhone. The hidden data port is NOT needed for diagnostic of the Watch (in case you're wondering). It is there for a reason...and Apple just does not put in something like that for no damn good reason.

Wanna bet with real money that AW 1st gen won't work in 5 years?

Selling something as high as $17,000 and then abandoning it after 3-5 years is asking for a class-action lawsuit!

 

[bmac4]

Who is talking about future features? As long as Apple provides connection with iOS (not that hard) via BT, it works as good 5 years from now as it does today. Why do you think Apple went to the extent of putting sapphire lens on the heart rate sensors? Apple designed this thing to work over the long haul. (Apple could have put sapphire in front and regular glass/plastic in back over sensor and call it a day.)

And yes, i understand how computer works. LOL

Remember, AW has a hidden data port. So, future features may be designed within bands that connect to the AW via data port.

I think that Apple has planned ahead for the Apple Watch than you think. This is NOT an iPhone. The hidden data port is NOT needed for diagnostic of the Watch (in case you're wondering). It is there for a reason...and Apple just does not put in something like that for no damn good reason.

Wanna bet with real money that AW 1st gen won't work in 5 years?

Selling something as high as $17,000 and then abandoning it after 3-5 years is asking for a class-action lawsuit!

Class action lawsuit? What the heck would anyone be able to sue for? Are you kidding me. I bought a $17,000 Apple Watch and now Apple is not supporting it. Go see how that would go in court. That is dumbest thing I have ever heard.

BT is not the only thing that makes the AW work with the iPhone. Sure you could connect it through BT, but it has to have the software on it to get notifications and work with the iPhone. How about you read the article I showed you. It's says watchOS 2 requires iOS 9. You will have to have future updates to support the watch. Ever android wear watch made in the last 2 years has a HR sensor on it. Some of them don't work anymore with the updated software. Just because Apple but a HR sensor on the AW and some data port does not mean this thing is future proof. Since when has price stopped Apple from making products outdated? Never.

And no I am not betting some random dude on the internet about the Apple Watch. That is the second stupidest thing you have said today. I will gladly come and find you on here when this Apple Watch does work anymore in 5 years.

 

[Thai]

Class action lawsuit? What the heck would anyone be able to sue for? Are you kidding me. I bought a $17,000 Apple Watch and now Apple is not supporting it. Go see how that would go in court. That is dumbest thing I have ever heard.

BT is not the only thing that makes the AW work with the iPhone. Sure you could connect it through BT, but it has to have the software on it to get notifications and work with the iPhone. How about you read the article I showed you. It's says watchOS 2 requires iOS 9. You will have to have future updates to support the watch. Ever android wear watch made in the last 2 years has a HR sensor on it. Some of them don't work anymore with the updated software. Just because Apple but a HR sensor on the AW and some data port does not mean this thing is future proof. Since when has price stopped Apple from making products outdated? Never.

And no I am not betting some random dude on the internet about the Apple Watch. That is the second stupidest thing you have said today. I will gladly come and find you on here when this Apple Watch does work anymore in 5 years.

Really? There is a class action lawsuit for Error 53. There is one for iPhone 4 being sluggish with latest update. What planet have you been on?

Ok just humor me. Where is this Android Wear watch with HR sensor that no longer works because of software updates? Show me.

Show me when Apple has sold a $17,000 device.

You talk a lot of crap. PUT money where your mouth is. Wanna bet with REAL money? Paypal vs. Paypal. Nothing random about that.

OK...a few things that you need to do:

1. Show me where Hermes AW owners are selling their watches left and right.

2. Show me where Android Wear updates has caused Android Wear watch heart rate sensor from working.

3. Show me where Hermes Watch are produced in THOUSANDS...

4. Show me where i have pissed on Classic Buckle like YOU have done here with Hermes.

5. Show me where the true cost of Hermes band is...$200-300. (You only cowardly mentioned second hand when i exposed your lies.)

6. Show me where Apple cannot replace battery on AW.

I believe that i have covered all your lies...feel free to show me.

Waiting....

 

[bmac4]

Really? There is a class action lawsuit for Error 53. There is one for iPhone 4 being sluggish with latest update. What planet have you been on?

Ok just humor me. Where is this Android Wear watch with HR sensor that no longer works because of software updates? Show me.

Show me when Apple has sold a $17,000 device.

You talk a lot of crap. PUT money where your mouth is. Wanna bet with REAL money? Paypal vs. Paypal. Nothing random about that.

OK...a few things that you need to do:

1. Show me where Hermes AW owners are selling their watches left and right.

2. Show me where Android Wear updates has caused Android Wear watch heart rate sensor from working.

3. Show me where Hermes Watch are produced in THOUSANDS.

4. Show me where i have pissed on Classic Buckle like YOU have done here with Hermes.

5. Show me where the true cost of Hermes band is...$200-300. (You only cowardly mentioned second hand when i exposed your lies.)

Waiting....

Haha good. Yeah I pretty sure Apple not going to lose money from a lawsuit when $17,000 AW don't work with their iPhone. You realize the people that bought the edition have thousands of dollars to spend on a new watch. They will just upgrade to the next bing thing.

Moto 360 is not supported on the iPhone. Has a heart sensor. Also there are features missing with many last years models that do not support wifi connection.

I am not betting you anything. I pretty sure that can get you banned from MR. Sorry but no.

 

[Night Spring]

Whether or not Apple Watch will work in 5 years is not relevant to the argument over whether or not the Hermes band is worth it. The Hermes watch is similar in price to the Apple Watch with link band. That watch with link band and the Hermes watch will both work for the same amount of years, however long that turns out to be. For that matter, so will any watch, even those that come with the sports band. Hence, the value of the watch body is the same, no matter what band it comes with. Unless you are so enarmored with the Hermes name that the engraving in the back means something to you. But that's not a rational issue, and can't be argued about with logic. You like Hermes so much, the engraving makes you pay more for a watch, please go discuss that in Hermes forums.

Now, for the band. What's the point of getting a link band over a sports band, or a medium priced band, like Apple's leather bands? It's basically the looks, right? And the feel -- some people just like the feel of the metal band. It makes them feel like they are wearing a more premium object on their wrist. Same with the Hermes band over other bands. It's great looking leather that feels extremely comfortable on your wrist. And because it's hand made, it probably costs more to manufacture than the link bands. But never mind how much it costs to make, some people are willing to pay the extra $$ for a premium leather band.

And in the end, the choice of bands isn't about logic, either. It's what makes you feel good. I gaping to think that all the Apple band offerings, other than the Sports bands, are a bit overpriced and don't quite match the best in that class. That is, the link bands aren't the best link bands money can buy, despite the innovative size adjustment mechanism. The quality of the metal in the band doesn't feel top of the line to me. Hermes leather, on the other hand, is really the best leather money can buy. So for people who like premium leather, it doesn't matter if the band and/or watch holds value longer than regular Apple Watch. They buy the Hermes watch because they want that band now, and they are willing to pay for it. They don't care how much it is worth several years down the line. And I think most people who buy the Apple Watch with link band are also buying because they want the link band now, not because they think they can get more money for it several years later. As for whether the link or Hermes band is worth the price, well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Mac 128]

Selling something as high as $17,000 and then abandoning it after 3-5 years is asking for a class-action lawsuit!

I'll shut you down right now:

The 20th Anniversary Macintosh. Sold for $10,000 US in May of 1997 ($15,000 adjusted for inflation today). It was introduced with Mac OS 7.6.1. Less than a year later in March of 1998, the price had been slashed to $1,999, and it was discontinued. Mac OS 9.1 was the last supported OS for the TAM, released in January 2001, and by February 2002, Mac OS 9 was completely unsupported by Apple.

That's barely 4 years before it was left behind by OS X, and less than 5 years before it was completely unsupported.

Where was the class action lawsuit over that?

 

[Thai]

Haha good. Yeah I pretty sure Apple not going to lose money from a lawsuit when $17,000 AW don't work with their iPhone. You realize the people that bought the edition have thousands of dollars to spend on a new watch. They will just upgrade to the next bing thing.

Moto 360 is not supported on the iPhone. Has a heart sensor. Also there are features missing with many last years models that do not support wifi connection.

I am not betting you anything. I pretty sure that can get you banned from MR. Sorry but no.

Whether those who buy $17k watches are rich or not is irrelevant. Class action lawsuit comes more from people being piss and wanting some financial "closure."

And here you state that class action lawsuits won't happen. I gave you two latest suits from rather frivolous reasons. So, next time, before insulting someone's intelligence, you may want to look in the mirror. Thanks in advance.

Dude, WTF are you talking about?! Wifi connection...because they don't have hardware for it. BUT, Android Wear latest version works WONDERFUL with them. Same with Moto 360. Heart rate sensor works with the latest software. So, ALL Android Wear watches are getting (if not already) getting the latest software from Google.

 

[Night Spring]

3. Show me where Hermes Watch are produced in THOUSANDS...

I can't show you any hard proof, but common sense says Hermes watches has to be made in the thousands. Say there are about, what, 30 locations around the world where they are sold in physical stores? If each of those locations sold a 100 watches, that's 3000. So yeah, they have to be made in the thousands, if not tens of thousands.

 

[bmac4]

I'll shut you down right now:

The 20th Anniversary Macintosh. Sold for $10,000 US in May of 1997 ($15,000 adjusted for inflation today). It was introduced with Mac OS 7.6.1. Less than a year later in March of 1998, the price had been slashed to $1,999, and it was discontinued. Mac OS 9.1 was the last supported OS for the TAM, released in January 2001, and by February 2002, Mac OS 9 was completely unsupported by Apple.

That's barely 4 years before it was left behind by OS X, and less than 5 years before it was completely unsupported.

Where was the class action lawsuit over that?

Thank you! I forgot about that or I would have mentioned it.

 

[bmac4]

I can't show you any hard proof, but common sense says Hermes watches has to be made in the thousands. Say there are about, what, 30 locations around the world where they are sold in physical stores? If each of those locations sold a 100 watches, that's 3000. So yeah, they have to be made in the thousands, if not tens of thousands.

What I was trying to get across the entire time. I really don't hate this band at all. It's super nice, but people like this that believe some how the Hermès is this special limited edition that beyond Apple's limits of upgrading is a joke. The watch while not made in millions was a long shot from a numbered limited run.

 

[Night Spring]

Whether those who buy $17k watches are rich or not is irrelevant. Class action lawsuit comes more from people being piss and wanting some financial "closure."

Those people who are rich enough to drop $17k on a watch aren't likely to get pissed if ther gold watch isn't supported in five years. They will likely have moved on to the next big fad way before then, and their gold first gen Apple watch will be sitting abandoned in their drawers.

 

[Thai]

I'll shut you down right now:

The 20th Anniversary Macintosh. Sold for $10,000 US in May of 1997 ($15,000 adjusted for inflation today). It was introduced with Mac OS 7.6.1. Less than a year later in March of 1998, the price had been slashed to $1,999, and it was discontinued. Mac OS 9.1 was the last supported OS for the TAM, released in January 2001, and by February 2002, Mac OS 9 was completely unsupported by Apple.

That's barely 4 years before it was left behind by OS X, and less than 5 before it was completely unsupported.

Where was the class action lawsuit over that?

Overpriced machine. Priced was slashed because the price was more for sleek design and concierge service.

Considering the Power Mac 6500 - a *MIDRANGE* consumer desktop - was $3000, that price wasn't "insane", just "outrageous". It is all relative back then. Back then 16MB RAM to a Mac IIsi was around $700 at the time. Many forget how expensive components were at this time.

So, the price is all relative.
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The watch while not made in millions was a long shot from a numbered limited run.

What is you and numbered limited editions?!
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Those people who are rich enough to drop $17k on a watch aren't likely to get pissed if ther gold watch isn't supported in five years. They will likely have moved on to the next big fad way before then, and their gold first gen Apple watch will be sitting abandoned in their drawers.

You guys assume that rich people are fabulously generous. Unless you're born with a silver spoon, you got that way thru wise management of finances. You think that all the class-action suits are by poor folks?

 

[Night Spring]

You guys assume that rich people are fabulously generous. Unless you're born with a silver spoon, you got that way thru wise management of finances. You think that all the class-action suits are by poor folks?

Again, I don't have any hard proof, but the last few class actions where I happened to be part of a class, I got emails saying if I mailed in proof that I was part of the class, I'd get $5. Maybe $10 if the deal was good. So no, I don't think rich folks will bother with class action suits, not for faulty / unsupported electronics.

 

[Thai]

Again, I don't have any hard proof, but the last few class actions where I happened to be part of a class, I got emails saying if I mailed in proof that I was part of the class, I'd get $5. Maybe $10 if the deal was good. So no, I don't think rich folks will bother with class action suits, not for faulty / unsupported electronics.

True...no one makes money from these things other than lawyers. But that does not mean that rich folks don't participate. Remember, a lot of times these suits are done to push OEMs to act on the complaint. Recalls, warranty extension, etc..

 

[bmac4]

Overpriced machine. Priced was slashed because the price was more for sleek design and concierge service.

Considering the Power Mac 6500 - a *MIDRANGE* consumer desktop - was $3000, that price wasn't "insane", just "outrageous". It is all relative back then. Back then 16MB RAM to a Mac IIsi was around $700 at the time. Many forget how expensive components were at this time.

So, the price is all relative.
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What is you and numbered limited editions?!

If they had run the watch with something like 1000 watches all numbered, that would be a special limited edition. Also aren't most limited edition items worth a lot more then retail in several years? If we look at the market we are talking about watches, look at limited edition Rolex. You pay several thousand dollars, and it only goes up in value over the years. The Hermès is not going up at all. These watches are only going to lose value.

 

[Thai]

If they had run the watch with something like 1000 watches all numbered, that would be a special limited edition. Also aren't most limited edition items worth a lot more then retail in several years? If we look at the market we are talking about watches, look at limited edition Rolex. You pay several thousand dollars, and it only goes up in value over the years. The Hermès is not going up at all. These watches are only going to lose value.

Have you look on eBay? Hermes AW new are asking over list price as we speak.

It may not go up...but it will not drop in value like your and mine so quickly.

No one knows. Lets wait. Why are you rushing judgement?