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My only disappointment is the continued lack of a user-accessible filesystem. iCloud looks like it should solve most of the difficulty of transferring files and keeping them in sync, but does nothing to solve the problem of working on the same file in multiple apps.
 
The lack of Flash was a real deal breaker for me.

Even though Adobe and Apple have supposedly agreed to a truce, the cold hard fact is that Flash negatively affects the performance of all tablets, and is also vulnerable to exploitation by bad guys. If Adobe can't get their act together, it is extremely unlikely that Apple will support Flash.
 
There's an interesting bit: http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/07/microsofts-joe-belfiore-kicks-off-ios5-we-did-it-first-contes/

Basically Microsoft marketing guy says that it's flattering to see WP7 features to go to iOS.

None of those features were exactly hard to come up with, and some of them have been on iOS via 3rd party apps for quite a while. It's fair to say they had them first, but I wouldn't really call them WP7 "ideas" as he does.

If I were him, I'd be gloating over showing off the split keyboard a few days before Apple.
 
No. A widget is basically a dynamically updating screen on your desktop, that hooks into an existing app.
Ie. A favorites widget would list your favorites on your desktop, allowing you to scroll through them,on your desktop, and let you either call, email or text them, directly from the desktop.
As you add or remove favorites in your address book, those changes will be reflected in the widget.
Same with calendar appointments , todo lists etc.

So, you can at a glance, without doing anything see your upcoming appointments, and list of todos.

You can also see not only who messages you, but you can see the message as well.
Well said!
 
My only disappointment is the continued lack of a user-accessible filesystem. iCloud looks like it should solve most of the difficulty of transferring files and keeping them in sync, but does nothing to solve the problem of working on the same file in multiple apps.

my core sentiments exactly! this is still a big major hole in iOS. finished editing an image in the Photoshop app. what if you want to upload the picture via safari to megaupload or something? or to a bigger hassle. finished editing a video in iMovie but you need a filter fx from another app. how are you going to load the file into the other app? bring back the pc.
 
Wanted the look of it to change somehow. Tired of looking at the same old same old. Also was hoping for a better YouTube app, the current one is embarrassing compared to the YouTube on android. Happy that the cord is finally cut though.

I was surprisingly pleased with iOS 5, Lion, and the iCloud. From previous reports I had pretty low expectations (was that the point of the leaks?), but I enjoyed watching the entire keynote address, and I am really looking forward to the updates becoming available to everyone.

Generally speaking, it's great to see a company come up with ideas (some innovative, some derivative), package them professionally, price them affordably (most of the improvements are free), and present them eloquently and passionately.

More specifically, I think Apple and Windows are moving in great directions with their increasingly sophisticated integration options and UIs. I have no worries about children losing computer literacy (something a previous poster mentioned). If you saw kids in schools, on the trains, or in class hacking their devices, you'd feel the same way :)

In the last couple of years I finally feel like devices are beginning to realize their potential (programmed into me by Ender's Game, Snow Crash, and a steady diet of cyber punk sf over the years).
 
A EVO.

Ugh. I feel your pain.
The built in widgets aren't the One to use.
I have calendar apps that show me my upcoming appointments.
I have a widget that shows my contact favorites, that I can quickly scroll through.
I have a widget that displays incoming texts and emails.
I would love to be able to see all of that information right on my iPad screen.

See I just don't see how the benefit of these sort of widgets...

Calendar: tap on the calendar app... 1 tap

Contact favourites: Tap on the phone icon, tap on "favourites"... 2 taps

Incoming texts and emails... already show up in a cack-handed popup method but still you can see what's incoming... new notifications will be loads better for this... 0 taps

I just don't see what's to gain from cluttering up your home screen with all this stuff when it takes literally seconds to access them as it is. You've been able to have widgets on your Windows desktop for years now, never found any that are actually useful they are just a resource hog
 
my core sentiments exactly! this is still a big major hole in iOS. finished editing an image in the Photoshop app. what if you want to upload the picture via safari to megaupload or something? or to a bigger hassle. finished editing a video in iMovie but you need a filter fx from another app. how are you going to load the file into the other app? bring back the pc.

Baby steps, guys. Baby steps. We're still in the early stages of the post-pc era.

But, actually, I don't see why iCloud couldn't solve your issues. Apple is providing an iCloud API, so all app developers need to do is make sure they use the API. Using your example, if you've finished editing a video in iMovie then the finished product should all be uploaded automatically to iCloud. You can then go into your filter fx app and edit that exact same finished product. That, in theory, is how this should all work if apps take advantage of the iCloud API.
 
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It so damn buggy... Says no sim as well :(
 
See I just don't see how the benefit of these sort of widgets...

Calendar: tap on the calendar app... 1 tap

Contact favourites: Tap on the phone icon, tap on "favourites"... 2 taps

Incoming texts and emails... already show up in a cack-handed popup method but still you can see what's incoming... new notifications will be loads better for this... 0 taps

I just don't see what's to gain from cluttering up your home screen with all this stuff when it takes literally seconds to access them as it is. You've been able to have widgets on your Windows desktop for years now, never found any that are actually useful they are just a resource hog

Because with widgets you can get an overview of everything at once simply by lifting the cover. And zero taps.
So, if Im driving along, with my iPad in it's mount, onr glance and I know all I need to know.
No dangerous looking for and tapping on icons several times.

But it's ok. I know you don't getvit, as you already stated.
 
Because with widgets you can get an overview of everything at once simply by lifting the cover. And zero taps.
So, if Im driving along, with my iPad in it's mount, onr glance and I know all I need to know.
No dangerous looking for and tapping on icons several times.

But it's ok. I know you don't getvit, as you already stated.

You're right I don't... who needs all that information in front of them when they're driving?
 
You're right I don't... who needs all that information in front of them when they're driving?

Those of us who don't spend all their time at an office desk, or school, or playing games.
Those of us who are on the go working.
 
Happy that iPhone has taken the best ideas from Android and Windows Phone 7 to bring it up to par with them.

But sort of disapointed it didnt really bring out anything to excel above them.

See I just don't see how the benefit of these sort of widgets...

Calendar: tap on the calendar app... 1 tap

Contact favourites: Tap on the phone icon, tap on "favourites"... 2 taps

Incoming texts and emails... already show up in a cack-handed popup method but still you can see what's incoming... new notifications will be loads better for this... 0 taps

I just don't see what's to gain from cluttering up your home screen with all this stuff when it takes literally seconds to access them as it is. You've been able to have widgets on your Windows desktop for years now, never found any that are actually useful they are just a resource hog

I for one would like to have an email widget on my homescreen, or just have a notification of an email on my homescreen. Just who it's from etc.

So I could see if I have email, 1 button press. For me to check email right now, 1 button press, 1 swipe to unlock, 10 taps for my password, 1 tap on email.
 
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You're right I don't... who needs all that information in front of them when they're driving?

Apparently you don't but many of us do. Another example of people trying to impose their way of thinking on everyone. Widgets would obviously be a choice, don't like them, feel like they burn battery life? Well then just turn them off, even a toddler can do that.It's just like the inane flash argument, put in a kill switch and it negates 99.1% of those arguments.
 
I've read somewhere on a tech site that the calendar app is technically a widget because it updates the date, I'd tend to agree with them on that. In essence iOS does have a widget lol, just the one though I suppose.

Even if it was a widget, it updates once a day bases on the OS clock. It doesn't have to download anything to work.
 
See I just don't see how the benefit of these sort of widgets...
Thats the great thing about Widgets. You dont have to! What you seem to be missing is that widgets allow customizability so while you prefer the uniform look that Apple dictates, some of us want information that caters to our personal lives and workflow.

Edit: Whoops. I guess I just repeated what SpineDoc said. But that's the weird thing about Apple fans. Many times they get so caught up in defending "Apples way of thinking" that they forget that some end users enjoy thinking on their own too.

This idea of a thread discussing features consumers want is supposed to be positive because we're expressing what we want in the future of the platform we support. But then you see people get so defensive because they think we're bashing Apple by making requests for something they don't offer. We're all Apple users and Apple has proven they will change things if necessary so whats the harm in acting like individuals rather than drones?
 
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The WWDC blew me away.

iOS 5: New notifications, iMessage, PC-less updates, tabbed browsing, and all the other stuff they showed were things that were sorely needed on iOS. Just further streamlines an OS that was already super streamlined. And there were a lot of things in there that surprised me that didn't make it into the rumor mill in the days running up to the conference.

OSX Lion: Honestly, I don't have a Mac, so I didn't care other than the fact that Lion will no longer use Rosetta, which in turn will make my life hell at work. (I support software that needs Rosetta to run, and the update for Lion is not ready yet.)

iCloud: Didn't care when I was following the live blog on Engadget, but when I watched the keynote last night and saw it in action, I was so happy. I can't wait to start using iCloud instead of plugging into iTunes every few days. iTunes is one of the few reasons I even use a regular PC anymore, and now I don't even need it.

If you're an iOS user, I don't know how you could not have been blown away by WWDC, but that's just me I guess.
 
If you're an iOS user, I don't know how you could not have been blown away by WWDC, but that's just me I guess.

As as iOS user I wasn't blown away, but I did breathe a sigh of relief as Apple brought us into last year, and I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way. If you have played around with the other OS' out there you would see that there was nothing revolutionary in the least about what was seen, but Apple does do things perfectly and makes sure they just work which is a good thing. It's like that 1997 interview when Jobs says he doesn't necessarily want to be different, but rather he wants to be better. I have high hopes for disconnecting from my PC and the whole icloud stuff and I have a feeling Apple is going to make it work, they were the only ones who successfully negotiated with the record companies which is no small feat.
 
the cold hard fact is that Flash negatively affects the performance of all tablets, and is also vulnerable to exploitation by bad guys. If Adobe can't get their act together, it is extremely unlikely that Apple will support Flash.

you're wrong...the cold hard fact is that Flash performance is a evolving issue. what was true 6 months ago may not be true now.

i've been reading a lot about the new Galaxy 10.1 and it offers very good flash performance while still maintaining excellent battery life, comparable to the ipad2 which we all know doesn't support flash.
 
you're wrong...the cold hard fact is that Flash performance is a evolving issue. what was true 6 months ago may not be true now.

i've been reading a lot about the new Galaxy 10.1 and it offers very good flash performance while still maintaining excellent battery life, comparable to the ipad2 which we all know doesn't support flash.

I actually find that "flash is evil, because....." arguments here are because "Steve told us so"

People refuse to do their own fact checking. Flash runs great on my evo, that has single core processor, and is not very battery hungry. I certainly can't wait for apple and adobe to kiss and make up, so I can finally get flash on iPad.
 
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