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Whose in....no 2 GB RAM, no 6s?

Honestly it should have more than 2gb. 2gb is even becoming paltry, phones are going to have 4gb by the time the 6s releases and the iPhone being one of the more expensive phones should have 3 or 4 gigabytes.

I regret purchasing the 6 plus and that's chiefly because of the RAM.
 
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nitromaxx said:
No, what I'm saying is if the phone doesn't fit your specifications, find another one and stop complaining. Using your money to buy a different phone will speak so much louder than posts on a forum. And there is a minimum standard. The phone works just fine for the majority of the people who own it. And like I said earlier, I have experienced the reloads and what not, but I deal. It's not the end of the world and I don't come here and attempt to amass a following of other overreacting people to not buy something. Apple is going to release what they want to release and you have the option to buy it or not.
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That's exactly what I will do if Apple doesn't deliver next time around, and that's what this thread is about. If the next iPhone doesn't have a minimum of 2gb ram, I'm not buying it. I bought the iPhone 6+ under the assumption that Apple wouldn't release a device that barely functions out of the gate. I was wrong.

This isn't acceptable on a phone that costs nearly $1000:

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nitromaxx said:
No, what I'm saying is if the phone doesn't fit your specifications, find another one and stop complaining. Using your money to buy a different phone will speak so much louder than posts on a forum. And there is a minimum standard. The phone works just fine for the majority of the people who own it. And like I said earlier, I have experienced the reloads and what not, but I deal. It's not the end of the world and I don't come here and attempt to amass a following of other overreacting people to not buy something. Apple is going to release what they want to release and you have the option to buy it or not.
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You shouldn't have to 'deal' when you're buying the most expensive phone on the market. It should be able to multitask better than any other phone! My old iPhone 5, which is *two* generations older multitasks WAY better than the 6+. A lack of RAM has ruined this new phone. Absolutely ruined it. No it isn't the end of the world but taken in the context of us being on a tech forum, then a reloading absolute top dollar smartphone in 2015 *is* the end of the world.
 
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I'm still on the 5 and while totally fine for my needs, I'm likely to update to the 6S this fall for the improved performance. If there's less than 2GB of RAM, it's a no go. One of the reasons I really enjoyed the 5 when it came out, was the 1GB of RAM. Which was a big increase for Apple at the time, and comparable to the other top options on the market. Pretty mind-numbing it hasn't changed since Fall of '12.
 
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C DM said:
That's great that Apple finally announced something about the upcoming new iPhone later this year.
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Agreed. No one really knows for sure, but I do hope they do and also a much better camera as well. Camera's on the LG G4 and Samsung Galaxy s6 are much better according to the reviews.
 
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sunking101 said:
You shouldn't have to 'deal' when you're buying the most expensive phone on the market. It should be able to multitask better than any other phone! My old iPhone 5, which is *two* generations older multitasks WAY better than the 6+. A lack of RAM has ruined this new phone. Absolutely ruined it. No it isn't the end of the world but taken in the context of us being on a tech forum, then a reloading absolute top dollar smartphone in 2015 *is* the end of the world.
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You lost all credibility long ago lol pls go.

Why keep spamming the MacRumors forums so much?
 
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I do think we should use our spending to cast decisions but in the case of this issue I do take exception to the poor choice Apple has made.

The constant refreshing when you switch apps drains battery and more significantly in the case of apps that load data has cost me data and therefore money.

I have the iPad 3 and the iPhone 6 plus unfortunately, both underpowered devices in service of a screen.

The 6 plus I really enjoy save for the need to refresh and it has crashed more than any previous iPhone.

I was very surprised the plus did not have an X chip or more RAM, it was a profit-maximising decision from what anyone with a knowledge of the costs and production issues can surmise.
 
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sunking101 said:
Why do you? All I read from you is how 'flawless' your iPhone is. How utterly perfect it is in every way etc. You experience no problems whatsoever, you need no more RAM, Apple know best...yawn.
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You proclaim that because you pay more for something, you're entitled to a device that's flawless. Not only that, but you're claiming a perfectly functioning device requires an additional amount of hardware in order to function according to your wishes. When in reality you don't have a clue what's causing the issue. Nor it is something that's globally established, because again NOT everyone has these "issues". On top of this all you have the audacity to be condescending towards Bobby. This is why you lose credibility.
 
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Serelus said:
You proclaim that because you pay more for something, you're entitled to a device that's flawless. Not only that, but you're claiming a perfectly functioning device requires an additional amount of hardware in order to function according to your wishes. When in reality you don't have a clue what's causing the issue. Nor it is something that's globally established, because again NOT everyone has these "issues". On top of this all you have the audacity to be condescending towards Bobby. This is why you lose credibility.
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Woah, he started the condescending stuff many weeks ago and yes all iPhone 6/6+ have these faults but many don't attempt to multitask with them and thus experience no issues.
The fact remains that the two generations older iPhone 5 has more available RAM (because it's 32Bit) and reloads apps and browser tabs MUCH less readily than the new batch of iPhones. It is a massive usability issue and iPhones have gone backwards in this department over the past couple of years. That is quite obviously acceptable to you but I can assure you that plenty of us feel shortchanged by Apple and their beancounting.
 
Also, Americans usually don't understand that the iPhone is an extremely expensive phone. The US is the cheapest country in the world for getting an iPhone. In all other countries, the iPhone is at least €200 (>30%) more expensive than competing flagships. That's why it's unacceptable that Apple tries to cheap out on the RAM (which obviously has a huge effect on performance).
 
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Also, Americans usually don't understand that the iPhone is an extremely expensive phone. The US is the cheapest country in the world for getting an iPhone. In all other countries, the iPhone is at least €200 (>30%) more expensive than competing flagships. That's why it's unacceptable that Apple tries to cheap out on the RAM (which obviously has a huge effect on performance).
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Exactly. I paid £699 (1087$) for my 64GB 6+ just for the device, and for that I expect it to at least better my two year old iPhone 5. It's actually much worse in certain crucial respects, like reloading for instance. It should be the best on the market, not worse than something Apple knocked out over two years ago.
 
I still contend that I need to be educated about the proof that RAM is the culprit. Anyone?

I don't know if extra RAM is going to help with issues that people are having. Every evidence that I have read so far seems anecdotal.
 
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Woah, he started the condescending stuff many weeks ago and yes all iPhone 6/6+ have these faults but many don't attempt to multitask with them and thus experience no issues.
The fact remains that the two generations older iPhone 5 has more available RAM (because it's 32Bit) and reloads apps and browser tabs MUCH less readily than the new batch of iPhones. It is a massive usability issue and iPhones have gone backwards in this department over the past couple of years. That is quite obviously acceptable to you but I can assure
you that plenty of us feel shortchanged by Apple and their beancounting.
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You keep referring to the hardware of the iPhone 5, i've used this device as well and I agree this phone wasn't experiecing these issues. But to deduce from that that the iPhone 6/6+ are lacking in hardware is a logical fallacy because to most these issues are not apparent. Again I am using all 3 of those devices in a very multitasking manner and the issue is not there. The only thing your situation is pointing out, is that there is something wrong with your iPhone 6/6+.

Merkie said:
Also, Americans usually don't understand that the iPhone is an extremely expensive phone. The US is the cheapest country in the world for getting an iPhone. In all other countries, the iPhone is at least €200 (>30%) more expensive than competing flagships. That's why it's unacceptable that Apple tries to cheap out on the RAM (which obviously has a huge effect on performance).
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sunking101 said:
Exactly. I paid £699 (1087$) for my 64GB 6+ just for the device, and for that I expect it to at least better my two year old iPhone 5. It's actually much worse in certain crucial respects, like reloading for instance. It should be the best on the market, not worse than something Apple knocked out over two years ago.
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Lmfao this is the worst argument so far, first off why would you assume any of us are American?
I don't know about the rest of the people who argue against you, but I sure as hell am not.
The iPhone is an expensive device regardless of where you purchase the device, this doesn't mean you're entitled to anything. You choose to buy a device which is according to you lacking in RAM, and not performing as it should.
Seriously, it's making you look childish and spoiled. As soon as you found out that the device wasn't functioning as desired. You could have brought it back, waited for the next iPhone 6S and you wouldn't be out of £699 for a device you're not satisfied with. Don't buy something, sit on it and complain about the money when you could of easily have gotten your money back, that's literally your own fault.

Jsameds said:
Haha this tired argument is still going on :eek:

RAM is the cause of all the issues people are talking about, there's simply no two ways about it. The 6S will have 2GB, mark my words.

And if you disagree, you're wrong. Sorry.
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No it's not, and if they add 2GB the argument just starts all over again, because these issues will persist. Read the posts.
 
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spacemnspiff said:
I still contend that I need to be educated about the proof that RAM is the culprit. Anyone?

I don't know if extra RAM is going to help with issues that people are having. Every evidence that I have read so far seems anecdotal.
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Anecdotal, yes. Look at it this way though, the iPhone 5 was the last Apple phone to be 32Bit. 32Bit devices use far less RAM than 64Bit devices. The 5S was the first 64Bit iPhone and it had the same 1GB of RAM as its predecessor. It reloaded more but only heavy web users and multitaskers noticed. The iPhone 6 and especially 6+ with their bigger screens and more demanding iOS8 also kept the same 1GB of RAM and reloaded apps & browser tabs so noticeably that it wasn't only the heavy users who noticed.

Of course we still have the Apple defenders and those who do very basic multitasking using data-light websites and basic apps, but consider the facts. Does an über-premium smartphone released late 2014 really look right on paper having the same amount of RAM as a less demanding 32Bit device from the same manufacturer and released two years prior? Never mind that competing Android devices have 3 and 4GB of RAM now.
 
Jsameds said:
Haha this tired argument is still going on :eek:

RAM is the cause of all the issues people are talking about, there's simply no two ways about it. The 6S will have 2GB, mark my words.

And if you disagree, you're wrong. Sorry.
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Proof is in the pudding, show me the pudding. Just stating something doesnt make it true.

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Anecdotal, yes. Look at it this way though, the iPhone 5 was the last Apple phone to be 32Bit. 32Bit devices use far less RAM than 64Bit devices. The 5S was the first 64Bit iPhone and it had the same 1GB of RAM as its predecessor. It reloaded more but only heavy web users and multitaskers noticed. The iPhone 6 and especially 6+ with their bigger screens and more demanding iOS8 also kept the same 1GB of RAM and reloaded apps & browser tabs so noticeably that it wasn't only the heavy users who noticed.

Of course we still have the Apple defenders and those who do very basic multitasking using data-light websites and basic apps, but consider the facts. Does an über-premium smartphone released late 2014 really look right on paper having the same amount of RAM as a less demanding 32Bit device from the same manufacturer and released two years prior? Never mind that competing Android devices have 3 and 4GB of RAM now.
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:) I guess we are back at it again, show me 'one' process that demands/tries to allocate more RAM than available and doesn't page the memory. I hope its understood what I am asking, not anecdotal evidence like page refreshes.

If that can be shown, then I will rest my case.
 
spacemnspiff said:
Proof is in the pudding, show me the pudding. Just stating something doesnt make it true.


:) I guess we are back at it again, show me 'one' process that demands more RAM than available and doesn't page the memory. I hope its understood what I am asking, not anecdotal evidence like page refreshes.

If that can be shown, then I will rest my case.
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So why does the 6+ reload more than the i6, which in turn reloads more than the 5S, which likewise reloads more than the i5? They all have the same amount of RAM but ever more demanding hardware. If this is just a simple software fix then why hasn't it been done? We're soon to be given iOS9!
 
sunking101 said:
So why does the 6+ reload more than the i6, which in turn reloads more than the 5S, which likewise reloads more than the i5? They all have the same amount of RAM but ever more demanding hardware. If this is just a simple software fix then why hasn't it been done? We're soon to be given iOS9!
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I hope its realized that each device that is mentioned has a custom OS written for the hardware, which also includes drivers, and that applies to iPad Air 2 as well. My contention is that memory allocation will be handled differently if the device is different because the software is different.

So the proof is to find a process that allocates/demands more memory than available. I am approaching this problem like any engineer would.
 
spacemnspiff said:
I hope its realized that each device that is mentioned has a custom OS written for the hardware which also includes drivers, and that applies to iPad Air 2 as well. My contention is that memory allocation will be handled differently if the device is different because the software is different.

So the proof is to find a process that allocates/demands more memory than available. I am approaching this problem like any engineer would.
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Dear lord, someone who knows what he's talking about... finally.
 
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