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Why dosent apple adopt new technology?
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jayb2000 said:
Get over the floppy good greif. 90% of the floppy crap was me making a statement that they are not worthless. What do you all take it as. Oh me saying floppies should still be added to computers. I stated that no where. There is a reason I call it my 10 buck insuresces. The drive costed me 10 bucks to add to my computer. 10 bucks for the just in case. If I never used it so I out 10 bucks. Not that everyone computer should have one. I just stated I call it my 10 buck insurences plan and it is really nice for those handful of times I needed to have one. I get flamed because of it and I defined myself.
I think a better way to put this thread would be apple has just become late at keeping up with a lot of standards.
They where late picking up PCI-X. they where late with the gigibyte eathernet ports, They where late going to USB 2.0. Currently they are late in going to PCI express and late picking up the dual layer burners. If the next power mac updates do not support the stuff they are out of excuse for not going to them.
Timelessblur said:
Man your funny, the G4 powerbook had the first ever integrate gigabit ethernet in a laptop.
Read here
New TiBooks are here!
Apple released new TiBooks today:
Apple? today introduced the new Titanium PowerBook? G4 line featuring an all-new, high-resolution display, faster PowerPC G4 processors, the industry's first integrated Digital Visual Interface (DVI) port and the industry's only integrated Gigabit Ethernet in a notebook.
- 1280x854
- 800mhz, 1MB L3 Cache
- DVI (with optional DVI->ADC converter)
- ATI Mobility Radeon 7500
- Gigabit Ethernet
- 800Mhz model has Airport Preinstalled
667mhz, 256MB RAM, 30GB, Airport Ready. $2499.
800mhz, 512MB RAM, 40GB, Airport Installed. $3199.
ENOUGH SAID
As stated before: if Apple is falling behind who is leading now? Dell, HP who?
Apple is still leading. All this doom and gloom is superfluous. Apple deliver the best package. Best OS, best designer products (Final Cut) and a more than decent architecture to support this: the Dual 2.5GHZ G5. Upto 8GB memory, 500GB storage and Nvidia 6800 Ultra. We would all like more and i have a feeling we will be getting it (not ts's specs).
Apple is still leading. All this doom and gloom is superfluous. Apple deliver the best package. Best OS, best designer products (Final Cut) and a more than decent architecture to support this: the Dual 2.5GHZ G5. Upto 8GB memory, 500GB storage and Nvidia 6800 Ultra. We would all like more and i have a feeling we will be getting it (not ts's specs).
mad jew said:Not trying to be impertinent but maybe just cut your losses on this topic.
Don't get him to quit, i'm just starting.
"Hopefully the new updates have a floppy drive, forget about blu-ray. Hopefully they run the ultimate in OS platforms Windows XP and come packaged will the superior Adobe Premier".
mkrishnan said:*Mentions X-Brite, runs out of room yelling, "It's a bomb! It's a bomb!"*
Lets just put it this way: Apple portables do require a moderate upgrade in resolution. The quality of my 12"PB is impeccable but the res is slightly too low. 1280X1024 would be welcome. But a mac or any computer for that matter is never going to be perfect, and a hindering factor of the PB's would be the screen to a point.
Cheers for attempting to roll me
JRM PowerPod said:Lets just put it this way: Apple portables do require a moderate upgrade in resolution. The quality of my 12"PB is impeccable but the res is slightly too low. 1280X1024 would be welcome. But a mac or any computer for that matter is never going to be perfect, and a hindering factor of the PB's would be the screen to a point.
Cheers for attempting to roll me
It was more an attempt to roll Timeless than you, but....
Actually, I think I agree with what you said, I think. I'd be up for either a res-boost or a res-boost with a widescreen on the 12" notebooks, as long as they stayed tiny and light in the process. But I'm also not morbidly unhappy with 1024x768 on my 12" screen....With regard to X-Brite, people seem to be split on whether it's all that great, because of the glare off the shiny screen, and I have not used it that much.
JRM PowerPod said:
Who is leading??? Any computer that has adopted more of the latest technology mentioned here, is definitely leading ... too many clone brands to name ... and don't expect me to do the research for you.
Apple is more conspicuous by what it hasn't bothered to adopt ... quite a growing list, all been named here, except SLI.
How can anyone say or think Apple is leading? ... you tried playing Doom3 on your Mac?
You guys checked the rumored spec for the PM update and noticed how most people ARE p*ssed that Apple aren't even trying to catch up on any of the latest things, except CPU speed? How is that leading? Reality checks needed!
JRM PowerPod said:Lets just put it this way: Apple portables do require a moderate upgrade in resolution. The quality of my 12"PB is impeccable but the res is slightly too low. 1280X1024 would be welcome. But a mac or any computer for that matter is never going to be perfect, and a hindering factor of the PB's would be the screen to a point.
Cheers for attempting to roll me
You got a 12" of course res is going to be low!
I find the PPi of mt 14" PB (1024x768) is slightly more 'viewabe than that of my 17" iMac (1440x900).
mkrishnan said:It was more an attempt to roll Timeless than you, but....
With regard to X-Brite, people seem to be split on whether it's all that great, because of the glare off the shiny screen, and I have not used it that much.
Sorry i'm tired it's 12:30am in Australia, i'm losing my wits.
And i do agree there does seem to be conjecture over the benefits and weaknesses of the X-Brite display. The problems such as the reflection and the benefit of a clearer image seem to link very closely with the advans and disadvans of floppy disks. The disadvans being that they corrupt easy, have a low density of storage and are very breakable have to be weighed up against the advans. These being the benefits derived from using them as frisbees and placemats at dinner parties.
The bandwith of AGP 8X Pro seems pretty good when comparing it to the technology of a Floppy
ACED said:
Leading is simply not employing the latest tech, it's popularising new tech and making it standard, and Apple have done this at least, or more than any otyher PC manufacturer! When was the laat time you heard "Hey have you seen the new X thingie in the Dell? Now there's something that we've been waiting for someone to make for ages!"?
And the point of a discussion is that you do support your arguaments. Simply saying something and not backing it up proves nothing!
What a silly point about Doom 3! Of course it's slower, it's a port! You could equally say:
Ever tried running Adobe CS on a PC? - How slow is that, or an even better example would be iTunes!
I'm not quite sure what the current range of PM G4's are missing really? Perhaps you could give examples?
James Philp said:
Res-independent UI is really the only way to settle this argument. The problem is that what's satisfactory to your usage style and his (ours) is different, and right now, with the way the OS works, you can't both be happy at the same time. JRM and I are going to be really unhappy with a 14" screen that has 1024x768 resolution, and you are going to be really unhappy with one of that size that has tiny text and graphics by virtue of a really high resolution....
A good example would be Excel on 12" notebooks. Right now, many excel spreadsheets, when opened at 100% on a 12" 1024x768, are not legible. Not merely because the text size is too small, but because there are too few pixels to render the text at that physical size legibly. Were the resolution larger, I would be happy viewing the same document at 100%, because the text would be legible, but tiny. You probably would not be happy, because the text is tiny.
ACED said:
Those specs aren't true. And before you say it i'm not in denial. The specs will be much better. Also Apple's hardware isn't completely aligned with the latest tech at the moment as the PM's we see now are a year old, before all this dual layer, SLi and what not. Apple is a small company in the big scheme of things, and subsequently they fluctuate rapidly between being industry leader when they release something to a weaker position when it comes time for updates, like now.
I will kill Apple if they don't release a decent machine as i've been waiting a while. I just think all this doom and gloom is not required on the back of a rumor based from a site being sued and possibly being manipulated by Apple. WAIT FOR THE RELEASES. Stop whinging about what is on offer. Life is too short to whinge, but even shorter to use XP. Reality check? No, how bout you!
ACED said:
What sort of fool ever bought a mac for gaming. That's asking for trouble, unless you play chess which cheats! (that's asking for trouble as well)
As stated Doom isn't optimised. Unless of course it is the Doom and Gloom coming out of your posts (now that's what i call optimised Doom)
Of course you are right, i've always agreed with you. It's personal preference as much as anything.mkrishnan said:
I view excel on my Palm Tungsten T3 from time to time! (340x480 i think) You'd hate it!
James Philp said:
LOL, now if you got 1280x1024 on that T3....mmm...
But even that sort of thing has limits. Everything should be sort of in lock-step. It's silly to have a camera phone with a 5MP sensor and crap optics. It's silly to have a 2000x1600 screen on a computer when programs can't handle sharing screen real-estate *cough Windows cough* and want to be in fullscreen.
Lest we forget all the Apple Apps that also love full-screen mode (iMove FCP etc etc...)mkrishnan said:LOL, now if you got 1280x1024 on that T3....mmm...
But even that sort of thing has limits. Everything should be sort of in lock-step. It's silly to have a camera phone with a 5MP sensor and crap optics. It's silly to have a 2000x1600 screen on a computer when programs can't handle sharing screen real-estate *cough Windows cough* and want to be in fullscreen.
Ah, but we have this little thing called expose, oh and I use this which works fabulosly well! - that's really how i an stomach 1024x768 - use that.
I reccommend it thoughroughly!
Well put anonymous.
The thread continues into oblivion, but where is TIMELESSBLUR to guide the ship. I really miss him
James Philp said:
Man, I missed Anonymous' post before he/she deleted it.
I used Desktop manager for a while. It is really cool stuff. I liked to gesture over to change desktops just to get it to do the cube animation. I actually don't have an issue with programs running in Full Screen. What I don't like is when things like Help Viewer windows in Windows don't play nice with multitasking. Using MS Office's sidebar help viewer thing is nice, until you try and move back and forth between the help viewer, the Office app, and other applications. Then it becomes a real nuisance. And several programs that use alternate help viewers have them set up so that, even though they are separate programs, they have a sort of always-on-top feature, and won't let you work in other windows without closing them.
And I am just kinda screwing around in this thread, sorry. I'm not a troll. I really like my Mac.
Nor do I think Windows is the worst OS ever made.... There's a special place in Hell for CP/M. are you taking crazy pills???
apple has had PCI-X in it's powermacs for 2 years now, there was little or no support for express until very recently, how could they justify the cost?
this computer was also the first to:
utilize a 64 bit processor
offer internal bluetooth support
allow deconstruction w/ out tools
come to think about it apple ALSO introduced (or was the first to feature):
the device that became known as the Palm Pilot
The first truly portable laptop
RISC
USB
Firewire
Color Freakin monitors!
Foreign language support (for free to boot!)
A NIC card built in
A CD-ROM
A Mouse
A trackpad
Wireless networking
Multiple monitor support
True Type Fonts
GUI
(some of these are arguable, but apple WAS the first to pull any of these off with any relative success....)
As you can see, apple basically introduced EVERYTHING that we take for granted as being included in new computers. Apple always goes above and beyond when it comes to integrating new technologies into their computers... weather they think it is a technology worth implementing is a different story...
apple has had PCI-X in it's powermacs for 2 years now, there was little or no support for express until very recently, how could they justify the cost?
this computer was also the first to:
utilize a 64 bit processor
offer internal bluetooth support
allow deconstruction w/ out tools
come to think about it apple ALSO introduced (or was the first to feature):
the device that became known as the Palm Pilot
The first truly portable laptop
RISC
USB
Firewire
Color Freakin monitors!
Foreign language support (for free to boot!)
A NIC card built in
A CD-ROM
A Mouse
A trackpad
Wireless networking
Multiple monitor support
True Type Fonts
GUI
(some of these are arguable, but apple WAS the first to pull any of these off with any relative success....)
As you can see, apple basically introduced EVERYTHING that we take for granted as being included in new computers. Apple always goes above and beyond when it comes to integrating new technologies into their computers... weather they think it is a technology worth implementing is a different story...
I just think you all can not get over the fact that apple screwed up and is lagging.
I think they pulled a knee jerk reaction. They went from leading and pushing to hard. They knew they needed to back off but they pulled back to far.
They where the first to drop the floppy noughting wrong with that. Their mistake was they pulled the floppy to earily. They started using firewire and they pushed it extremly hard and the rest of the industy did not follow suit. USB became the big thing. They where among the first to start putting in DVD burner standarded before it was it was ready. Apple releized they where driving new tech to hard. They pulled back but they pulled back to far and the industy past them by. PCI express is where everthing is going and apple has not gone there. Develoment of the AGP card is slowing down and most of the ones coming out in the future are PCI express only. Dual layer media is starting to hit the market and the price will be dropping soon enough.
I think they pulled a knee jerk reaction. They went from leading and pushing to hard. They knew they needed to back off but they pulled back to far.
They where the first to drop the floppy noughting wrong with that. Their mistake was they pulled the floppy to earily. They started using firewire and they pushed it extremly hard and the rest of the industy did not follow suit. USB became the big thing. They where among the first to start putting in DVD burner standarded before it was it was ready. Apple releized they where driving new tech to hard. They pulled back but they pulled back to far and the industy past them by. PCI express is where everthing is going and apple has not gone there. Develoment of the AGP card is slowing down and most of the ones coming out in the future are PCI express only. Dual layer media is starting to hit the market and the price will be dropping soon enough.