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Honestly, there are two things that make the iPhone far superior to any other device on the market. The first is the app store. Even if you could find the same or similar apps in the Google Play store, their iPhone counterpart is almost always better. Then there are apps that are only available on the iPhone (ex: Tweetbot which is by FAR the best mobile Twitter client around).

Second thing is the fact that it just works. Android may have flashier specs or additional features but there are minor bugs everywhere (especially if you're not using stock Android and have a manufacturer overlay). With the iPhone, there are very few bugs and if one arises it's usually squashed quickly. I just find the whole user experience to be superior on the iPhone.

Now give me that 4" screen, widgets, and some UI customization and there won't even be a debate IMO.
 
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I am more than willing to have a legit conversation about this. I think you are correct on the multi-tasking, but I disagree with you on the email. Personally, I think the new Gmail 4.0 app is fantastic and I've had no problem with push.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to switch back to the new iPhone when it is released, but I truly believe that the HTC One X has set the bar very high and it will take quite an offering from Apple to get me to switch back.

All that said, if Apple comes through with what I would like to have in a phone, then I will be one of the first in line on release day, but for now, the One X is tops.

I understand you said "it is not even debatable", but then you did not give a single reason to substantiate your statement. Did you literally mean you will not debate it? :p

You've come to a thread where the OP says the iPhone is best at photography, videos, security, updates, audio, navigation, games, voice commands, hardware integration and accessories. I have posted multiple reasons for each category, and fleshed out my argument over many pages. Please explain how the HTC One X beats the iPhone in the above stated categories.

Considering the HTC One X cannot multitask correctly, it already fails on multiple fronts, but before you walk in the footsteps of a previous posted and claim the camera is better, please note my previous post:

The HTC One X is actually quite bad at taking photos. This is the best comparison of the HTC One X camera vs the iPhone 4S camera. It simply shows you the results and lets you form your own conclusions:

http://www.techradar.com/videos/htc-one-x-vs-iphone-4s-camera-test-aJ2D7rM1i3OVz

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The poster I responded to then posted some photos of his own, comparing his iPhone 4S to his HTC One X, but the highlights on the HTC One X photo were badly overblown, and showed very bad chromatic aberration. I don't think you're going to win any arguments on the camera.
 
I love these "Apple is better" justification threads. :D Especially since 90% of what was listed in the OP was THIRD PARTY APPS, he he. Most of which are replicated by Android, or will probably be shortly. No mention of the 3.5" screen, no micro-sd, no controllable file system, no replaceable battery, etc. To each his own I guess. Ignorance is bliss.

I used to get irritated with these types of posts but since I'm switching to the Galaxy 3, I'm really enjoying them. Keep the justifications coming. :p

Tony
 
Good post. My wife said to me the other day "you're always on your phone! you must be very popular"

Nope, just wasting my time doing speedtests and skimming flipboard etc. haha.


I have no friends :(
 
What we agree on is that the iPhone is the only phone that can satisfy all 100 of your "needs" (and I use the term loosely). I'm sure that there are some of your individual "needs" that can be done on Android, but not all 100. I don't think you've research all 100 of your "needs" to see if they can be done on Android, because if you did, you wouldn't have enough time for a girlfriend.

The reason people are posting arguing with your reasons are because you posted this on a discussion forum and not your blog. You clearly posted it here because you have an agenda. If you didn't have an agenda, you wouldn't have mentioned Android. You would have just said "this is why I like my iPhone and that's that."



I have a TomTom dedicated Sat Nav with IQ Routes and it's not anything special. You are gullible if you think it is. It's clever advertising. IQ routes apparently gives you the quickest way to get somewhere, by giving you routes which uses roads with the fastest speed limits, however, sometimes the roads it sends you on are absolutely rubbish. It sent me on a winding country road with a 60mph speed limit, however, I couldn't travel at 60mph on hardly any of it because of the tight, blind corners. I came home from where I was going along the main road and cut about 25 minutes off my journey.

I don't know too much about Google Navigation as I've only used it a handful of times, but the routes it uses appear reasonable. There are layers that you can use to display things such as live traffic, which I would submit is infinitely more useful than IQ routes.



iPhone fits the bill.



What you really want is for your device to think for you. Android is not a security risk for me because I'm not stupid. I've used computers for a long time and have hardly ever had problems with viruses, etc. Having a little technical know how and some common sense goes a long way.



Audio/video/photos/documents/media can all be synced using Dropbox, even between Android and iOS devices.



Not even the iPhone can track your runs reliably when GPS is sketchy. The other sensors cannot reliably track you because that's not their job. That's what GPS is for.



You can say "Text (girlfriend's name) mobile I'm going to be 15 minutes late." on Android. You only have to specify "mobile" if there's more than one number and her mobile isn't set to default. You can do that without taking the phone out of your pocket.

320kbps for Spotify is an iOS exclusive, but only for now. It's listed as a feature for all premium users on the website, so it's only a matter of time until other devices are updated to support that bitrate. I do prefer Spotify on iOS because I can see what my friends are listening to. There is an Android feature that I like too that iOS doesn't have though, and that's the ability to to add your own tracks to your Spotify playlists. I can rip a CD, put it on my phone and add that track to my Spotify playlists. Spotify doesn't have everything so sometimes this is handy. My Spotify crashes occasionally when I'm deleted songs, but it doesn't crash when I'm adding or listening. Overall it's pretty stable.



https://www.wavesecure.com/



You're taking all of the human-ness out of your relationship. What's wrong with a phone call? "Hi (hunny/baby/whatever you call her), want a lift home?"

You seem to want your smartphone to replace.... well, you. You can't remember to do simple things like take out the trash and need your phone to remind you? :rolleyes:

My apologies, I did not properly respond to this message.

IQ routes does not rely on posted speed limits, it's much smarter than that. It uses historical traffic data to see how long it took other cars in the past, at that specific time, to travel those roads.

There's a trail near my house that I commonly use. Even during the parts where there is no tunnel, there are many trees overhead, as it goes through a very wooded area for many miles. GPS alone cannot be relied upon. My tests show iSmoothRun's combination of GPS and Accelerometer is accurate.

I've touched on the security issue a few times already, so I won't repeat it much here, but the problem stems from a few basic things, the phone not getting security updates from the carrier, malware even on apps in the Google Play store, and needing to install unofficial versions of the OS from random forum posts (a huge security risk) in order to stay up to date with security patches. Security on Android is a Catch-22.

Yes, Android has some basic voice command functionality, but it's clear that Siri is much better, both allowing you to do much more, and with better voice recognition.

Wavesecure requires a yearly subscription, requires you to purchase it again if you switch devices, requires a background processes to be running on your phone that can easily be killed by any task manager, has had many problems lately with functionality not working after an update, has been known to severely drain the battery (one person went from 30% to 0% overnight, with nothing else in the background but Wavesecure), and (correct me if I'm wrong) since it runs as a normal background process it can be killed if the phone runs low on memory.

These type of apps really need to be part of the OS in order to function correctly.

Lastly, knowing that I like to surprise my girlfriend at work with flowers, is not enough information to say I am taking "all of the human-ness out of the relationship".
 
Honestly, there are two things that make the iPhone far superior to any other device on the market are the apps. The first is the app store. Even if you could find the same or similar apps in the Google Play store, their iPhone counterpart is almost always better.

I'll just leave this here: http://www.tuaw.com/2012/02/05/study-ios-apps-crash-more-than-android-apps-do/

Second thing is the fact that it just works.

I'll also leave this here: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en....3.1.305.1832.12j6j0j1.19.0...0.0.hsfbwpORY-s

The keyboard is just one example (of which there are many) things that don't "just work". I love my iPhone experience as much as the next guy, but we really have to stop propagating this whole "it just works" marketing jargon. It does disservice to fellow fans who recognize there are many things Apple needs to improve with iOS 6.
 
Bought two of your apps you mentioned. Thanks for the detailed post. It was fantastic.

I bought two also and found one of them on sale for this weekend!

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Did you read he article?
So why more crashing? Crittercism suggests it's because iOS 5.0.1 had just released, while the latest version of Android had not yet arrived, and the new OS was causing more issues than usual in Apple's system. I would also suggest that iPhone users (who have likely paid more for their phones) tend to overtax their devices -- keep in mind this is just an app crashing, not the full iOS, and we've all done that once or twice, right? And as you can see, there's a fair amount of crashes on older iOS phones, which means customers might be running newer apps on older hardware, almost always a recipe for disaster


I'll also leave this here: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en....3.1.305.1832.12j6j0j1.19.0...0.0.hsfbwpORY-s The keyboard is just one example (of which there are many) things that don't "just work". I love my iPhone experience as much as the next guy, but we really have to stop propagating this whole "it just works" marketing jargon. It does disservice to fellow fans.


Auto correct doesn't work any better or any worse than any other implementation...
 
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I love these "Apple is better" justification threads. :D Especially since 90% of what was listed in the OP was THIRD PARTY APPS, he he. Most of which are replicated by Android, or will probably be shortly. No mention of the 3.5" screen, no micro-sd, no controllable file system, no replaceable battery, etc. To each his own I guess. Ignorance is bliss.

I used to get irritated with these types of posts but since I'm switching to the Galaxy 3, I'm really enjoying them. Keep the justifications coming. :p

Tony

Yes, that's the crux of any OS argument. Gamers don't prefer Windows over OSX because Microsoft has Solitaire built-in, it's because the third party apps :p

Even if we focus primarily on first party apps, are you saying Apple loses there too?

Apple has the following: iTunes Match, AirPlay, AirPlay Mirroring, iCloud, iPhoto, iPhoto journals, iMovie, Remote, Siri, Find My Phone, Find My Friends, iTunes University, FaceTime, iMessage, Mail (no Android app does email threading properly), Photostream, Reminders, Parental Controls, iBooks, Newsstand, Safari (smoothest mobile browser), Apple Store (scan and buy items in their physical store without going to a cash register), iTunes movie trailers, Pages, GarageBand, Keynote, Numbers, Cards, Keynote Remote.

Do you believe my assertion that no other device can fill the shoes of all the apps I've described in this thread is incorrect? If so, explain how.
 
OP, for the DOF photos, were those done on the iPhone? If so, what apps did you use and how did you achieve it?
 
OP, for the DOF photos, were those done on the iPhone? If so, what apps did you use and how did you achieve it?

I used BigLens, there are a few others, and sometimes I bring FilterStorm into the mix, but I've found BigLens to be the best.

Take the picture with whichever app you choose, open BigLens and apply DOF.
 
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I love these "Apple is better" justification threads. :D Especially since 90% of what was listed in the OP was THIRD PARTY APPS, he he. Most of which are replicated by Android, or will probably be shortly. No mention of the 3.5" screen, no micro-sd, no controllable file system, no replaceable battery, etc. To each his own I guess. Ignorance is bliss.

I used to get irritated with these types of posts but since I'm switching to the Galaxy 3, I'm really enjoying them. Keep the justifications coming. :p

Tony

Why are you surprised? Would you be shocked if you went to a Ford forum, and found people talking about how much they enjoy their new Ford, or why they couldn't consider another car?

I love people who troll forums of things they don't like, and post their opposition. I'm glad those types of folks don't get to me any more either. You're right; ignorance is bliss...thank you Mr. Bliss.
 
I used BigLens, there are a few others, and sometimes I bring FilterStorm into the mix, but I've found BigLens to be the best.

Take the picture with whichever app you choose, open BigLens and apply DOF.

Many thanks. Did you use that for the sun glare effect as well?
 
Yes, that's the crux of any OS argument. Gamers don't prefer Windows over OSX because Microsoft has Solitaire built-in, it's because the third party apps :p

Even if we focus primarily on first party apps, are you saying Apple loses there too?

Apple has the following: iTunes Match, AirPlay, AirPlay Mirroring, iCloud, iPhoto, iPhoto journals, iMovie, Remote, Siri, Find My Phone, Find My Friends, iTunes University, FaceTime, iMessage, Mail (no Android app does email threading properly), Photostream, Reminders, Parental Controls, iBooks, Newsstand, Safari (smoothest mobile browser), Apple Store (scan and buy items in their physical store without going to a cash register), iTunes movie trailers, Pages, GarageBand, Keynote, Numbers, Cards, Keynote Remote.

Do you believe my assertion that no other device can fill the shoes of all the apps I've described in this thread is incorrect? If so, explain how.

Wow. Now just listing apps. Like Android doesn't have any native that do these things. Nice. :rolleyes:
 
Do you believe my assertion that no other device can fill the shoes of all the apps I've described in this thread is incorrect? If so, explain how.

Man, you are becoming the school yard bully around here. Does this thread keep you up at night? Taking notes and thinking of ways to 'show all those heathens what's what? No arguing you are a masterful proponent of all things iPhone, but you seriously need to get out more.
 
I used Rays for that.

Have fun!

Thanks again. I'll need to reread your original post again and go through it - photography is definitely a passion and some of these apps go beyond the likes of SnapSeed and Filterstorm which are great apps by the way.
 
I never liked Android, and have had an iPhone since the original 3G, however that being said, there are good sides to both, but the interesting thing will be what Google does with it's purchase of Motorola since it is now a done deal.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/22/technology/google-motorola/index.htm

The one thing I see coming out of this, is a more stable phone and os like Apple, however it will be interesting what happens to all the other handheld mfg's like HTC when Google puts it's software on a piece of hardware it owns. to me it seems like the death of everyone else who runs Android now.
 
Wow. Now just listing apps. Like Android doesn't have any native that do these things. Nice. :rolleyes:

You insinuated that 90% of my argument revolves around third party apps, making a list of first party apps that Android does not match is a valid response.

If you believe I am wrong, then show me.

In any case, even if the apps are primarily third party, that does not negate my statement. The staple of any OS is the third party apps behind it. Gamers don't choose Windows for Solitare.
 
No offense taken. :)

I honestly can't think of anything I wish the iPhone did that Android phones can do. Even if the phone has a cool feature I want to check out, every time I play with an Android phone I walk away unimpressed. Sure, some forum members have mentioned some cool features, but there's always something to sacrifice to get it. I've yet to see a good mobile implementation of Flash (Photon Browser I mentioned above does it all in the cloud), multitasking is supposed to be "better", but every time my Android friends show me their phones, They have performance issues and always say, "Something must be running in the background".

What about the sharing API? All those photos you take, you must like sharing them.. from Android it's all done in the gallery. You can share to Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Picasa, Flickr, etc all from the same place rather than having to go into each individual app.

I don't have performance issues, but I've taken the time to customise my phone and make it more power efficient. Android is more for people who like to tinker with their devices rather than have something that "just works."

If your friends took the time to do this, they'd find their problems solved.

Thing is, there's nothing to "believe" about my claims. I'm not saying I saw a UFO, nor am I saying the iPhone is the prettiest, I am making definitive factual statements. "My phone can do this this this and this, whereas your phone cannot When making definitive statements like this, my credibility is not relevant, as my claims can be easily verified or debunked after a minute of google searching.

Even if I'm the biggest Apple fanboy there ever was, and admit my "needs" are fabricated it doesn't make my argument any more or less accurate. If I said, "These are the things my iPhone does better, and I love it, so I can never switch." would you participate then? :p

Because your post is so heavily biased in favour of the phone, I'm less inclined to actually research what you've said. If you took a more objective approach and said "the iPhone is better because of X, Y and Z, but Android is better because of A, B and C" then I'd be more inclined to believe you were actually making valid points.
 
You insinuated that 90% of my argument revolves around third party apps, making a list of first party apps that Android does not match is a valid response.

If you believe I am wrong, then show me.

In any case, even if the apps are primarily third party, that does not negate my statement. The staple of any OS is the third party apps behind it. Gamers don't choose Windows for Solitare.

You insinuated that 90% of my argument revolves around third party apps, making a list of first party apps that Android does not match is a valid response.

If you believe I am wrong, then show me.

In any case, even if the apps are primarily third party, that does not negate my statement. The staple of any OS is the third party apps behind it. Gamers don't choose Windows for Solitare.

Obviously, Android has matches for almost all iPhone apps, 3rd party or 1st party. I'm not going to go app by app, though I could. It's so obvious that I'm not spending the time. :rolleyes: I'm switching to GS3 and I've found equalivent replacements for all but one app (and I have 100+ apps) and many on Android that iPhone doesn't have. I'm sure that there are many each doesn't have that the other does, but most of the important ones are on both platforms, and they will continue to converge, just like the PC Windows and Mac OS did. You point out things like photo apps, email clients, text messagiong, book readers, music and video playes and the like as if they are unique to the iPhone. Jeez.....:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
What about the sharing API? All those photos you take, you must like sharing them.. from Android it's all done in the gallery. You can share to Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Picasa, Flickr, etc all from the same place rather than having to go into each individual app.

I don't have performance issues, but I've taken the time to customise my phone and make it more power efficient. Android is more for people who like to tinker with their devices rather than have something that "just works."

If your friends took the time to do this, they'd find their problems solved.



Because your post is so heavily biased in favour of the phone, I'm less inclined to actually research what you've said. If you took a more objective approach and said "the iPhone is better because of X, Y and Z, but Android is better because of A, B and C" then I'd be more inclined to believe you were actually making valid points.

Ok, the sharing API sounds cool, and I can't think of any way that would affect performance :) One inconvenient thing about photo editing (on any platform), is that I have to keep saving the file to open it in a new program. iOS has the ability to send the file to another program without creating a new file, but most programs don't support it yet. Does the sharing API let me work on a photo in one program, then send it to another program, so I don't end up with 6 duplicates once I'm done with it all?
 
Ok, the sharing API sounds cool, and I can't think of any way that would affect performance :) One inconvenient thing about photo editing (on any platform), is that I have to keep saving the file to open it in a new program. iOS has the ability to send the file to another program without creating a new file, but most programs don't support it yet. Does the sharing API let me work on a photo in one program, then send it to another program, so I don't end up with 6 duplicates once I'm done with it all?

I think that would be up to the individual apps. PS Express saves the image as a duplicate in the same folder, and the built in photo editor saves images in an "edited" folder.

I haven't found any, but I only make minimal adjustments every now and again so I haven't looked in any great detail.
 
Obviously, Android has matches for almost all iPhone apps, 3rd party or 1st party. I'm not going to go app by app, though I could. It's so obvious that I'm not spending the time. :rolleyes: I'm switching to GS3 and I've found equalivent replacements for all but one app (and I have 100+ apps) and many on Android that iPhone doesn't have. I'm sure that there are many each doesn't have that the other does, but most of the important ones are on both platforms, and they will continue to converge, just like the PC Windows and Mac OS did. You point out things like photo apps, email clients, text messagiong, book readers, music and video playes and the like as if they are unique to the iPhone. Jeez.....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

This is the classic "Begging the question" logical fallacy.

a type of logical fallacy in which a proposition is made that uses its own premise as proof of the proposition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

In other words, when

a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

http://begthequestion.info/

If you decide to join the debate, the question is:

Do you believe my assertion that no other device can fill the shoes of all the apps I've described in this thread is incorrect? If so, explain how.
 
For someone who supposedly uses his iPhone for all sorts of productive and interesting tasks in your very busy life, you sure have a lot of time to waste on internet message boards, OP

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Wow, thank you very much for this post. I recently purchased an iPhone 4S and have been struggling with it for the last few days. It's missing a lot of the features that I got used to with my previous phone. I had a Samsung Galaxy II but I lost it at the park. As I had insurance on it I bought the iPhone 4S as a replacement. I'm not liking it very much. As I'm new here I really shouldn't be saying this huh.

Things I don't like;

Lack of a filemanger, my biggest complaint, I use FX-Filemanger on Android which allows me to mount my work, home server over VPN as a normal folder on my desktop
No MiniSD slot
I can't mount phone as a normal drive when connected to my Linux box, needs iTunes
The codec support seems to only include those that are compatible with iTunes, no Divx for instance, I also don't like iTunes and I don't believe in paying for free TV not when there are hundreds of streaming sites, oh they need flash another complaint
Applestore charges almost twice as much for the same app available in the Android store
The screen is very small, very small
There is no replaceable battery
It's kind of on the heavy side
iOS doesn't have customization, can't change icons ect., no desktop with widgets, kind of on the boring side
The OS seems locked down
Can't change the default browser

There is more but I think I should stop before someone shoots me. Look I like most Apple products, my Air and iMac are both great machines but I think the iPhone is going back in the morning, I decided on the Galaxy Note. The iPhone, it's not for everyone, from what I've seen so far if you are a power user you will not survive the iPhone experience, consumer product 100%.
 
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