The problem IS SOLVED. You get a text message after 5 minutes. Maybe they can tweak that and shorten the time. But there's your solution.
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Why I don't like iMessage
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The problem IS SOLVED. You get a text message after 5 minutes. Maybe they can tweak that and shorten the time. But there's your solution.
The problem IS SOLVED. You get a text message after 5 minutes. Maybe they can tweak that and shorten the time. But there's your solution.
Is it after 5 minutes of being sent or after 5 minutes of getting no delivery receipt (that you can't turn off)?
Also I think it will actually ask you to choose to send as SMS or iMessage at that point, it doesn't seem to autosend as SMS (which would be more transparent and possibly costly if you have no SMS plan)
AND that is my point, it is supposed to forward the message as a text if it can't send it as an iMessage and its not. The set up they have to switch "seamlessly" between sms and imessage is NOT working
iMessage should be available all the time, unless the receiving user has it turned off. The sender's iPhone will check for that automatically in the Messages app. I think Apple will be able to tell if you're sending an iMessage to an email address or phone, and will not ask you to send it as a SMS unless it's a phone number (i'm guessing here, it would make sense).
The OP's problem was not bring able to receive an iMessage while on a call RIGHT AWAY (because of data/call limitations on Verizon). It would be delayed, and delivered as a SMS (if option is turned on from the sender's phone) 5 minutes later.
Then why didn't you say so?
If you're NEVER getting the sms or imessage, because you were on the phone, then yeah that's a beta bug.
Dude, listen to yourself. This has been said PLENTY of times in this thread already... BETA BETA BETA. You can't complain ab it HERE that it's not working. This is not the place to complain ab a BETA. You complain to Apple thru your dev account.
You can't say you don't like iMessage because it's not working right in BETA form... OR you can say it, just don't expect anybody to be sympathetic.
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Dude, listen to yourself. This has been said PLENTY of times in this thread already... BETA BETA BETA. You can't complain ab it HERE that it's not working. This is not the place to complain ab a BETA. You complain to Apple thru your dev account.
You can't say you don't like iMessage because it's not working right in BETA form... OR you can say it, just don't expect anybody to be sympathetic.
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I already said that twice. He thought I was telling him to shut up and sit down haha.
I have filed it with Apple
I can say I don't like whatever the hell I want where ever the hell I want
and I don't want your sympathy I thought we could discuss it and see if others were having a problem.
Are you not getting the option to send as SMS? If not sounds like the iPhone that is in a phone call is somehow sending a delivery receipt (when it shouldn't)
This is NOT how you discuss a problem that you know is BETA related.. and i quote:
You wonder why nobody is agreeing with you or being helpful? Your post is implying that iMessage as an whole is flawed and it should be separate from SMS. You're not taking into account that the issue you're having is BETA related and will most likely be addressed in a later update.
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And I think it IS flawed. It should be set up similar to the BBM system not some patched together hatchet job where messages are not coming thru. Rim has been handeling this on Verizon for Years. This isn't earth shaking technology and its being handled poorly
OP, you sent a report to Apple, good job! Now all you can do is wait and see if a solution is sought out. If not you have another solution: just turn off iMessage. It's NOT an ignorant answer... it's just something you have to do. If your text messages are THAT important, then it should be a NO BRAINER to just do it. Whether it be iMessage or SMS, it still acts for the same purpose. Turning off iMessage doesn't seem like a huge loss. Like everyone said, it's still in beta mode- so don't expect the perfect product.
I feel like I just echoed everyone elses' responses. But sometimes people have to here it a thousand times before they actually understand.... now THAT right there, sir, is ignorance.
I feel like I just echoed everyone elses' responses. But sometimes people have to here it a thousand times before they actually understand.... now THAT right there, sir, is ignorance.
Do you think Apple just copied Blackberry's technology and transferred everything over?!?
Are you not understanding what people are telling you?! This is a BETA OS. It is implied that there will be issues with it. You DON'T have to use it. There is a perfectly solid iOS4 that Apple has on the market currently that will work just fine.
YES!
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wrong, if it's sent as an iMessage, then after 5 mins they get it as an SMS. no fault in the system, it's a fault in your understanding!
it asks you after 5 minutes if you want to send as an sms instead. 5 minutes after sending and 5 minutes of no delivery receipt are 1 and the same are they not?
if messages aren't getting thru, it's a bug in the Beta and it should be fixed by release.
The delivery confirmation addresses much of the concern. If I send an iMessage, I can see if it is waiting on delivery. If I click the undelivered message I get the option to send as an SMS. If I ignore the undelivered message, it sends as SMS after 5 mins. It seems very seamless to me. If you feel that VZ is not a suitable network for data based messaging, turn it off.
That's how it worked for me too, I like it a lot. Although I wish it would ask if I want to send as an SMS first instead of sending automatically.
So it would ask everytime? That would be annoying. I think it's better if it only asks when it fails. (Or perhaps I didn't understand your statement fully?)
I meant, it tries to send as an iMessage. The other person doesn't have data available for some reason so after 5 minutes instead of sending automatically as an SMS it will ask you if you want to send as an SMS instead. The reason I want that option is because if the other person is traveling and it just sends automatically as an SMS after 5 min it gets expensive for you.
Just to add that Apple only have to care for a GSM and a CDMA version of their phones. I'm sure that if iOS5 detects the phone is from VZ's CDMA, the sender will get an error because the recipient could be shown as 'Busy' and try to resend within a preset timeout. I'm sure Apple have all of this worked out, remember we're still on Beta and perhaps this system has not been implemented yet. But it would be extremely careless from Apple not to address this 'issue', so I'm certain they will. Simply put the iMessage on standby while you are using the phone.
There do seem to a bugs in the beta. It will only send automatically when you are NOT in the app and it will send the SMS even if you deleted the message after the initial failure. These bugs have already been submitted to Apple.
This seems to be another issue hopefully apple to address. I dont want imessage to send as SMS automatically after 5 minutes. Sometimes messages arent that important and Id rather not waste my allotment of SMS if they can simply receive the imessage the next time they connect. What if the person is on the subway for 20 minutes? instead of getting the SMS when they get out theyll get a SMS because its been longer than 5 minutes and I will be charged for an SMS? I hope not.
from what i've experienced so far, each time you go into messages, it checks if the person can receive it on iMessage first, so if they have no data connection it will default to SMS giving you the green button and it says 'text message' in the typing box