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But has this been observed? I, again, just can't get behind criticizing something based on non-use. You sure that 5-minute timeout doesn't begin once the phone call ends? It just seems like a trivial thing regarding vPhones.


It has been observed and while it may be trivial to you It is NOT trivial to me. I recieve important text messages for work while on phone calls and we as a company decided to use Verizon because of all the issues we had with dropped calls on AT&T. Now we have fielded over 45 iPhones with Verizon and I think the imessage issue should be resolved.
 
How can you not like something that has not been released?

That is the same thing almost of not liking carrots because you never tried them.

Just wait till it releases.

Completely different. If someone tells you a product will act in a certain way, you don't have to try it yourself to know you won't like it. I don't have to drive a car that doesn't go in reverse to know I don't want to buy one.
 
It has been observed and while it may be trivial to you It is NOT trivial to me. I recieve important text messages for work while on phone calls and we as a company decided to use Verizon because of all the issues we had with dropped calls on AT&T. Now we have fielded over 45 iPhones with Verizon and I think the imessage issue should be resolved.

Then go to your settings (Settings>Messages) and turn off iMessage. It's an optional feature, not a requirement.
 
Completely different. If someone tells you a product will act in a certain way, you don't have to try it yourself to know you won't like it. I don't have to drive a car that doesn't go in reverse to know I don't want to buy one.


Haha. Anyways, only the BETA is out. OP is judging based on a BETA. NOT the real thing.

Patience is key here.


Edit. OP should change thread to "Why I don't like iMessage BETA"
 
Not to hijack this thread, but this no data during phone call thing is interesting. Does it happen the other way around too? If you're say browsing a website and using data, do phone calls not come through until you exit your browser? And by then, would it say "missed call from so and so"?
 
Simple solution: Turn off iMessage and only use SMS text. If you do this with all 45 Verizon phones in your office then it shouldn't be an issue.
 
Completely different. If someone tells you a product will act in a certain way, you don't have to try it yourself to know you won't like it. I don't have to drive a car that doesn't go in reverse to know I don't want to buy one.

yes, but it's still in BETA! so they can tweak it. at the mo it's 5 mins and it asks if you wanna send as an SMS instead. they might reduce this or give you the option to change how long it waits.

i find it daft that there's a phone network that doesn't do data and voice connections at same time tho, that's not Apple's fault or problem.
 
imessage has been released and we have been experimenting with it all this morning on 3 verizon iPhone 4 and 2 AT&T iPhone 4

Actually you are mistaken, it has NOT been released. What you are using is a beta that is released to developers to test.

iMessage does check to see if both are iOS5 and will use iMessage first. I see this as a way to save the end users money and not use up their SMS allotment.

I could be wrong here, but on Verizon, if you're on a call doesn't it disable all data? Thus if I sent a message and it checks to see if you have iOS 5, wouldn't it get nothing in return since data is disabled? I'm sure since you have the phones you'll have more info on it.
But I was just wondering.

However since this is just the first Beta, and you're using it, I would suggest you go over to the developer side of Apple and fill out your bug report. I bet this would make things better for all Verizon users.
 
Haha. Anyways, only the BETA is out. OP is judging based on a BETA. NOT the real thing.

Patience is key here.


Edit. OP should change thread to "Why I don't like iMessage BETA"

Isn't that the point of releasing a BETA? to find the fault and point it out? You are so hyper critical of anyone who points out an issue. THIS IS FIXABLE in the final release and I HOPE they do. If everyone was patient and not talking about issues they would release a POS Gold edition
 
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It has been observed and while it may be trivial to you It is NOT trivial to me. I recieve important text messages for work while on phone calls and we as a company decided to use Verizon because of all the issues we had with dropped calls on AT&T. Now we have fielded over 45 iPhones with Verizon and I think the imessage issue should be resolved.

I certainly hope you didn't install iOS5 on your WORK iphones since you have such important text messages come thru... :confused:
It's BETA. Don't complain about it before you know exactly how it's going to be rolled out by Apple. We're 3 months away from this things coming to market. Don't complain ab it here, especially since it's a beta. Write Apple if you think it's going to be a problem.
 
Actually you are mistaken, it has NOT been released. What you are using is a beta that is released to developers to test.

iMessage does check to see if both are iOS5 and will use iMessage first. I see this as a way to save the end users money and not use up their SMS allotment.

I could be wrong here, but on Verizon, if you're on a call doesn't it disable all data? Thus if I sent a message and it checks to see if you have iOS 5, wouldn't it get nothing in return since data is disabled? I'm sure since you have the phones you'll have more info on it.
But I was just wondering.

However since this is just the first Beta, and you're using it, I would suggest you go over to the developer side of Apple and fill out your bug report. I bet this would make things better for all Verizon users.



AND our developers have been filling out bug reports. I am bringing it here as an issue to be discussed
 
Isn't that the point of releasing a BETA? to find the fault and point it out? You are so hyper critical of anyone who points out an issue. THIS IS FIXABLE in the final release and I HOPE they do. If everyone was patient and not talking about issues they would release a POS Gold edition

you were talking about it as if it was a finished product, plus if you find a bug, report it in the proper way then instead of coming on a forum to bitch about it as apple have nothing to do with this forum......
 
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I certainly hope you didn't install iOS5 on your WORK iphones since you have such important text messages come thru... :confused:
It's BETA. Don't complain about it before you know exactly how it's going to be rolled out by Apple. We're 3 months away from this things coming to market. Don't complain ab it here, especially since it's a beta. Write Apple if you think it's going to be a problem.

Nope our Techs always load the beta versions to make sure our apps work on the devices and that there are no issues with them interacting with our machines. And don't tell me where to complain. This is bringing an issue to the masses
 
I could be wrong here, but on Verizon, if you're on a call doesn't it disable all data? Thus if I sent a message and it checks to see if you have iOS 5, wouldn't it get nothing in return since data is disabled? I'm sure since you have the phones you'll have more info on it.
But I was just wondering.

This, tested it with my mate, he disabled data, i put his name in and it stayed on SMS, few mins later he re-enabled data, i started a new message to him and it switched to iMessage
 
Isn't that the point of releasing a BETA? to find the fault and point it out? You are so hyper critical of anyone who points out an issue. THIS IS FIXABLE in the final release and I HOPE they do. If everyone was patient and not talking about issues they would release a POS Gold edition


We aren't talking about the points of releasing a BETA. You said you didn't like iMessage. What you don't like is the BETA of iMessage.
 
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We aren't talking about the points of releasing a BETA. You said you didn't like iMessage. What you don't like is the BETA of iMessage.

I don't need or want respect from you. I am pointing out an issue and instead of discussing it you are telling me to shut up an sit down. This is an issue that has been reported and I see as a serious glitch. I can turn it off on our phones but what about pwople who don't realize there was na issue unless they read this forum.
Why don't you just go back to whatever you were doing and let the adults talk ok ?

This, tested it with my mate, he disabled data, i put his name in and it stayed on SMS, few mins later he re-enabled data, i started a new message to him and it switched to iMessage

Test it on verizon phone while on a call. Don't try to replicate it on an AT&T phone.... test it the way we did
 
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It has been observed and while it may be trivial to you It is NOT trivial to me. I recieve important text messages for work while on phone calls and we as a company decided to use Verizon because of all the issues we had with dropped calls on AT&T. Now we have fielded over 45 iPhones with Verizon and I think the imessage issue should be resolved.
On your end, you would just turn iMessage off. Don't use it as it's pretty clearly not for you. With it "off" on your end, anyone with an iPhone that sends you a message will automatically send it as a "text" to you.
 
I agree with the OP I wish it was separate, all this faffing around with 5min wait times and checking the receiver is really just over complicating a simple process
 
Blame Verizon for not having the technology to talk and receive/send data at the same time. Apple can only do so much with the limitation of Verizon's technology.
 
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