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Why the he11 did AT&T skip Philadelphia with LTE
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Really funny. That's probably coming from somebody that makes minimum wage and no benefits.
You got that right! I've been living out in the suburbs all my life and I've always hated that stinken cesspool
HSPA+ is more than suitable for a smartphone or tablet. You won't even notice a speed difference with LTE if you have a good HSPA+ connection. Of course if the ping is lower then the page will load faster. I'm sure Philly has HSPA+ so you'll go be good to go and have better battery life.
you're kidding right????????
atts hspa+ gets up to 14 mbps at best... lte 50mbps+
and i still get 10+ hours of battery..
if we had the 41mbps hspa+ like some do in europe then yes you wouldnt notice much.
Where exactly are u from? Im also just a few minutes from Philly Intl.
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^^Exactly why we can't stand u out-of-towners. Next time u come through, please let me know so I can show u some brotherly "love" in true Philly fashion. Make sure u bring ur girlfriend/cousin along for the trip. We got a lot of history here.
No, he's 100% correct. Even 3MBps with 10ms ping time is good enough for 95% of what anyone does. The big problem I find with HSPA+ is sometimes the pings are 1500ms + so even when I am getting 15MBps speeds which I often do on T-Mo it is like pulling teeth to load a page but when ping drops real low (30-40ms) I could easily live without LTE and even 3MBps would suffice.
i never argued that 3mbps wont suffice... but you will most certainly notice a huge difference with LTE. Install a 50 mb app on a 3mbps 3g connection and then on a 25 mbps lte. If you cant see the speed difference then i dont know what to tell you.
Of course you'll see the difference but it's measured in seconds or maybe even a couple minutes and not hours and rarely necessary (or never necessary for "most" people). Point is, it isn't that LTE is not better, of course it is, just not necessary for normal everyday use of a phone or tablet. If waiting for a 50mb app to download in 1 minute (or whatever) rather than 10 or 20 seconds is that important then hey, what can I say.i never argued that 3mbps wont suffice... but you will most certainly notice a huge difference with LTE. Install a 50 mb app on a 3mbps 3g connection and then on a 25 mbps lte. If you cant see the speed difference then i dont know what to tell you.
I think AT&T skipped half of America with its LTE and even crappy 4G coverage. In capital cities I'm lucky to get 1 or even 2 bars of LTE and the speed sux, 5-6mbit at best. HSPA+ fairs off better at 10-11mbit...
The HSPA+ networks in Australia get better with 10-28mbit speeds, LTE non existent on the iPad (hence the govt trying to sue them bout it earlier in the year).
My biggest concern above all is the instability I experience on this Qualcomm chipset, it seems to have difficulty at times switching between gprs\edge to HSPA to LTE consistently without having to cycle airplane mode from time to time. The iPhone doesn't suffer this at all, I would have preferred personally a slower more stable cellular chipset then the latest and greatest which can be unstable at times. I'd rather a stable 14-21mbit cellular connection than a rocky 42/59mbit cellular connection.
The HSPA+ networks in Australia get better with 10-28mbit speeds, LTE non existent on the iPad (hence the govt trying to sue them bout it earlier in the year).
My biggest concern above all is the instability I experience on this Qualcomm chipset, it seems to have difficulty at times switching between gprs\edge to HSPA to LTE consistently without having to cycle airplane mode from time to time. The iPhone doesn't suffer this at all, I would have preferred personally a slower more stable cellular chipset then the latest and greatest which can be unstable at times. I'd rather a stable 14-21mbit cellular connection than a rocky 42/59mbit cellular connection.
Of course you'll see the difference but it's measured in seconds or maybe even a couple minutes and not hours and rarely necessary (or never necessary for "most" people). Point is, it isn't that LTE is not better, of course it is, just not necessary for normal everyday use of a phone or tablet. If waiting for a 50mb app to download in 1 minute (or whatever) rather than 10 or 20 seconds is that important then hey, what can I say.
okayyy then why did you even say anything????
the entire conversation we were having was that he said you wont really see a difference in LTE vs hspa+ here.. i said you will see a difference. never said that hspa+ doesnt function or suffice..
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were are you at??
with 2 bars i get 25-30 down.
I "said something" because it was my right and privilege to respond to a message despite whether you agree with my response or not. That being said I will answer the question you asked:okayyy then why did you even say anything????
the entire conversation we were having was that he said you wont really see a difference in LTE vs hspa+ here.. i said you will see a difference. never said that hspa+ doesnt function or suffice..
I "said something" because I agree with him because he meant exactly what I was saying. Not that LTE isn't any faster then 4G which it obviously is, but that (as I said) "for most everyday use" (as he said) "you won't really see a difference." Again I repeat, for the VAST MAJORITY of people using their phone or tablet for everyday normal use of email & web whether they are getting 3 MBps 3/4G or 300MBps LTEXYZ123 they won't see a difference. Obviously there are some, in the minority, where high speeds may be better or even necessary for certain tasks. Just like there are a minority of people who need 20gigs of data per month on their portable device where the vast majority could easily live with half a gig. I rarely exceed 500MB of data per month and that's only because I go out running every morning and listen to Sirius/XM or Pandora on my G-Nex. On my LTE iPad 99% of the use is wi-fi.
Of course you'll see the difference but it's measured in seconds or maybe even a couple minutes and not hours and rarely necessary (or never necessary for "most" people). Point is, it isn't that LTE is not better, of course it is, just not necessary for normal everyday use of a phone or tablet. If waiting for a 50mb app to download in 1 minute (or whatever) rather than 10 or 20 seconds is that important then hey, what can I say.
I am confused now which is it?
as you said yes 1 min to download an app,( or load a web site/ photo gallery) vs 10-20 seconds is a matter of seconds, but thats more than %50 faster.. its not dial up vs high speed, but you easily can notice a differnce on LTE vs 3g..
Did i ever state 3g wont suffice?? NO.
Did i ever say lte was necessary? NO
Bfizzle you have me all gfizzled in my asizzle. You win, I surrender. If you can't understand the generalizations I am trying to make and turning everything into specific numeric detail then it ain't worth trying to have a reasonable discussion. That's why I dislike these kinds of forums so much. Just so frustrating. Have a great LTE day.
As much as I trash cell providers for their shady practices, the time period to have a tower put up varies state to state, and in some places it takes a real long time.
I swear the govt needs to buy up all cell towers and switch them to the AT&T frequencies (they match up with most of the worlds) and then just make the cell networks just providers. Then prices will drop as the field levels out.
I swear the govt needs to buy up all cell towers and switch them to the AT&T frequencies (they match up with most of the worlds) and then just make the cell networks just providers. Then prices will drop as the field levels out.
okayyy then why did you even say anything????
the entire conversation we were having was that he said you wont really see a difference in LTE vs hspa+ here.. i said you will see a difference. never said that hspa+ doesnt function or suffice..
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were are you at??
with 2 bars i get 25-30 down.
Los Angeles and Vegas
Bfizzle you have me all gfizzled in my asizzle. You win, I surrender. If you can't understand the generalizations I am trying to make and turning everything into specific numeric detail then it ain't worth trying to have a reasonable discussion. That's why I dislike these kinds of forums so much. Just so frustrating. Have a great LTE day.
lmao
awe man the "numeric detail" too hard to handle. I can do pictures too!
yeah this forum can be frustrating if you contradict yourself.
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City population means very little. It's all about metro pop. Some city boundaries are very small compared to others. Louisville is small fries.
Louisville is 42nd in metro population.
Spent the first 30 years of my life in Philly; glad to be out...
Probably skipped the town cause most of the folks living there think LTE is just short speak for "Miller LTE".
Probably skipped the town cause most of the folks living there think LTE is just short speak for "Miller LTE".
Lazy, entitled union workers and disappointingly rude people who make crappy cheesesteaks? (Went last spring and was not impressed.)
LOL. Tower cranes building what, for whom? Most big business cleared out of Philly years ago. Now all that's left are polite, intelligent, respectful young folks, like yourself, who probably can't wipe their own backsides without help from their mommies and daddies. Blaming the typos on your cell is no excuse for the second rate Philly public school education of which you are undoubtedly a product.
The town is a dump, full of morons, the most worthless sports franchises in the country, and is just a half step above its sister city across the river. When I feel the need to "go to town", I go to a real city, New York. When I want to take a dump, I go to your house.
BTW, it's so booming, the city is selling off the parking garage under Love Park to raise money. Next, they'll be selling off Billy Penn for scrap....
Hah, nope, but I didn't bring it into question by starting a thread about it. BTW, it does have LTE.