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Why the he11 did AT&T skip Philadelphia with LTE

MattMJB0188 said:
That's one of the biggest stereotypes Indiana has and its NOT TRUE. It's actually a very beautiful state and maybe before making stupid comments like that, you should visit. :D
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I have it's boring. :D I'm from central IL. That's why I now live near Philly. ;)
 
I live outside of Portland, Oregon, which is the 23rd largest metro area, and there are no signs of LTE being available any time soon. It is available with Verizon. My iPad service is through them and I have been very happy with them and most likely will switch my cell service to them once I get the next iPhone, hopefully on launch day. I probably won't regret losing my "unlimited" data with AT&T because it really isn't and my 3G service is horrible right now.
 
RedRaven571 said:
The town is a dump, full of morons, the most worthless sports franchises in the country, and is just a half step above its sister city across the river. When I feel the need to "go to town", I go to a real city, New York. When I want to take a dump, I go to your house.

BTW, it's so booming, the city is selling off the parking garage under Love Park to raise money. Next, they'll be selling off Billy Penn for scrap....
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In your 30 years here, was there some traumatic experience that feeds this irrational vitriol? Did Ed Rendell kick your puppy or Pat Burrell sleep with your wife?

Yes, I'm from Philadelphia but I've been fortunate enough to have visited MANY of the largest cities in this country from Albuquerque, NM to Zzxyz, CA and IMO, they all have amazing, unique things to offer (maybe not Zzxyz as much but you get my point). I've found it's only the lazy and myopic that build caricatures of what they don't have and attempt to serve that up as some blanket indictment of the entire city.

Why you feel the need to take a hot rhetorical smash on Philadelphia - or any metro for that matter is beyond me. I could cite statistics - like Chicago and your shining star NYC having left BILLIONS on the table into order to privatize their parking meters in a desperate act for short term cash, the fact we're the third largest college town in the country, and the Eagles / Phillies are both in the top 50 most valuable sports franchises INTERNATIONALLY and the Flyers are one of the few NHL teams to actually turn a profit - but seeing how your savvy criticism amounts to little more than (people are dumb, sports team's suck, NYC rules) I'm sure you'll just counter with some other moronic stereotype.

Why can't you just leave it at "Philly wasn't for me" and move on? Life's to short to be so damn angry. Or at the very least, bring a bit more quantitative / objective reasoning to the table before you attempt to summarily denigrate the 5th-largest city in the country and home to some incredible people, places, and national history.
 
rookpsu said:
In your 30 years here, was there some traumatic experience that feeds this irrational vitriol? Did Ed Rendell kick your puppy or Pat Burrell sleep with your wife?

Yes, I'm from Philadelphia but I've been fortunate enough to have visited MANY of the largest cities in this country from Albuquerque, NM to Zzxyz, CA and IMO, they all have amazing, unique things to offer (maybe not Zzxyz as much but you get my point). I've found it's only the lazy and myopic that build caricatures of what they don't have and attempt to serve that up as some blanket indictment of the entire city.

Why you feel the need to take a hot rhetorical smash on Philadelphia - or any metro for that matter is beyond me. I could cite statistics - like Chicago and your shining star NYC having left BILLIONS on the table into order to privatize their parking meters in a desperate act for short term cash, the fact we're the third largest college town in the country, and the Eagles / Phillies are both in the top 50 most valuable sports franchises INTERNATIONALLY and the Flyers are one of the few NHL teams to actually turn a profit - but seeing how your savvy criticism amounts to little more than (people are dumb, sports team's suck, NYC rules) I'm sure you'll just counter with some other moronic stereotype.

Why can't you just leave it at "Philly wasn't for me" and move on? Life's to short to be so damn angry. Or at the very least, bring a bit more quantitative / objective reasoning to the table before you attempt to summarily denigrate the 5th-largest city in the country and home to some incredible people, places, and national history.
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Apologies, I let a particular forum member tick me off and should not have trashed the residents of an entire city as my response.
 
willmtaylor said:
Hah, nope, but I didn't bring it into question by starting a thread about it. BTW, it does have LTE. :D
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So does Philly, which is covered by Verizon, MetroPCS, (next year LTE-Advanced :D) T-Mobile, soon to be Sprint and in the coming months, AT&T.

By the way, the next iPhone is likely to support LTE-A.
 
kycophpd said:
Louisville Kentucky got skipped too. 700,000 residents. 16th largest city in America..... welcome to AT&T.
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City population is pretty meaningless. More important is the overall metropolitan population.

San Francisco's population is 805,235
The Metropolitan Statistical Area's (MSA) population is 4,335,391
The Combined Statistical Area's (CSA) population is 7,563,460

The Louisville-Jefferson County MSA is 1,307,647
The Louisville-Elizabethtown-Scottsburg CSA is 1,451,564

Basically, there's Louisville and a few suburbs, but outside of town, it's there's not a lot.

Note that for mobile operators, they probably look at the total usage, including travelers (domestic and international), not just the residents.

San Francisco is perennially one of the top three tourist destinations in the USA and has a lot of business travelers as well. What's Louisville's tourist traffic like?

All of this makes a place like the SF Bay Area to be a top priority for these type of network build-out decisions.

As a television media market, SF-Oakland-San Jose ranks fourth in the nation, behind NYC-NJ, Los Angeles, and Chicago. The City of San Francisco's population count is not the deciding factor.
 
Philadelphia has very diverse employment, excellent medical care, top universities, culture, history and a great mayor. It is not bankrupt. The inhabitants, for the most part, care about the city. It's a quick drive to the ocean, as mentioned before. Nobody has to evacuate for extreme weather conditions.

Yes, some of the people are "blunt", but stop and ask anyone for directions and they will gladly help you. PS: Parking Wars is NOT a realistic depiction of everyday life.
 
The city needs LTE yes. But...it isnt called "Killadelphia" for nothing. Crime is rampant and the phone company peeps are probably too scared of getting robbed or shot in broad daylight to put up the necessary equipment. How do I know this? I've been to Philly many times and each visit brings new "adventures".
 
FWIW I'm a single female, under 5 feet and lived two years in Center City without any such "adventures". I'd still be there now if I hadn't needed a car for work (much more affordable in the suburbs).
 
Wow @ this thread lol. Found it in my search for more Philly LTE info in anticipation of the new iPhone.

Honestly I think I'll survive on HSPA+ for quite a while. 6Mb down/ 2Mb up isn't that bad, but I would love LTE.
 
Zethca said:
Wow @ this thread lol. Found it in my search for more Philly LTE info in anticipation of the new iPhone.

Honestly I think I'll survive on HSPA+ for quite a while. 6Mb down/ 2Mb up isn't that bad, but I would love LTE.
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There are quite a few areas that are covered by AT&T's LTE network in Philly from what I've seen on my LTE iPad. Unfortunately I don't see it to often here in the Suburbs. On HSPA+ I get 9.5 Mbps down and 1.60 to 2 Mbps up. I hope they expand LTE here in the Burbs soon.
 
Irish Rose said:
There are quite a few areas that are covered by AT&T's LTE network in Philly from what I've seen on my LTE iPad. Unfortunately I don't see it to often here in the Suburbs. On HSPA+ I get 9.5 Mbps down and 1.60 to 2 Mbps up. I hope they expand LTE here in the Burbs soon.
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TOTALLy agree I am tempted to switch to verizon for that reason...this will be my first iphone but I think I am going to stick with AT&T and hope they pull LTE out soon. Which should be faster than VERIZON
 
golfesv said:
TOTALLy agree I am tempted to switch to verizon for that reason...this will be my first iphone but I think I am going to stick with AT&T and hope they pull LTE out soon. Which should be faster than VERIZON
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I will never switch to Verizon just for LTE. I tried their LTE network last year using the HTC Rezound and this was the highest speed I got in the Philly suburbs. I know AT&T can and will do better than this.

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I'd just like to point out the difference between this Philly LTE thread title and others on this forum, as a Philadelphia area native...

Other LTE Threads:
ATT 4G Minneapolis
At&t LTE in Westchester NY
LTE in Seattle Area

This thread:
Why the he11 did AT&T skip Philadelphia with LTE:D
Oh, goodness. You people make it so easy to make fun of us. :rolleyes:
 
Wait. Did they just turn on LTE or am I reading aome bs? If this is true and as long as they have the burbs covered I'm switching from verizon. http://m.prnewswire.com/news-releases/att-4g-lte-available-in-philadelphia-169728536.html
 
myMacRumors said:
AT&T LTE - Philly-metro area

New Jersey Turnpike Exit #4
Download 44.00 Mbps
Upload 16.92 Mbps
Ping 51 ms
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Wow - any other Speedtest reports on the new LTE? The AT&T store in Springfield (DelCo) gave me 10Mbps down on a One X this Tuesday which seems pretty low. The LTE logo was on so I assume it should have been working...

That said 10 down may be as good as it gets post iPhone 5 anyway, both on Verizon and AT&T. :(
 
Lara F said:
Wow - any other Speedtest reports on the new LTE? The AT&T store in Springfield (DelCo) gave me 10Mbps down on a One X this Tuesday which seems pretty low. The LTE logo was on so I assume it should have been working...

That said 10 down may be as good as it gets post iPhone 5 anyway, both on Verizon and AT&T. :(
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Holy crap you live close to me. 10Mb down is actually better than what I just got on my S3 on Verizon's LTE. I'm in Glenolden and couldn't break the barrier to 4Mbps. When I was in Philly last night, I got 10 point something Mbps on the same phone. That was near City Hall.

But I'd certainly like to find out if anyone can replicate those results, because 44 down is amazing and if that's what AT&T just did to their network, I'm saying goodbyte (lol) to Verizon.
 
now that AT&T turned on its LTE network in Philly, when will they update their coverage maps?

before i flip my iPad 2 for an iPad 3 LTE AT&T model on the $30/mo for 3GB plan, i want to make sure that the surrounding Philly suburbs in Montco and Bucks are covered too (where i work and play...i mean...work lol)

quick question though about the AT&T model - have they allowed for wifi hotspot with the iPad 3 yet?
 
ObsidianBlade said:
Holy crap you live close to me. 10Mb down is actually better than what I just got on my S3 on Verizon's LTE. I'm in Glenolden and couldn't break the barrier to 4Mbps. When I was in Philly last night, I got 10 point something Mbps on the same phone. That was near City Hall.

But I'd certainly like to find out if anyone can replicate those results, because 44 down is amazing and if that's what AT&T just did to their network, I'm saying goodbyte (lol) to Verizon.
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I was near Home Depot in Clifton Heights and got this:

(first one on the list)
 

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