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Microsoft did this with the Xbox One S. "We're coming out with this device, but the real new Xbox is coming after that."

Well, then why come out with the product at all? Now that we KNOW about the iPhone 8, we're not going to buy this phone WE'RE GONNA WAIT.

If you look at the phone, it looks just like an iPhone 6s. And with what we've been hearing, it pretty much IS an iPhone 6sII.

It's literally the nothing new iPhone. They did this before with the infamous "iPad 3"
How do you know what else it will have?

For those who value camera could be a very good upgrade.

Just because it looks the same doesn't mean it will be
 
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You keep waiting when Android phones surpasses iPhone every single day to distance themselves further from a snoozefest like iOS. I am losing interest in iPhone 7 and 8. The 8 could be the Galaxy S7 edge without the curve and be closer to edge to edge.

There are TWO flagships this year that do interest me. Xiaomi Mi 5 Pro (ceramic black) is one of them. I didn't know they sell it to the United States. I think Mi 5, OnePlus 3, and ZTE Axon 7 have the best value using Snapdragon 820.

The other is the Note7 so I can use the USB Type-C on both the Mi 5 and Note7 to charge them. S7 edge wasn't future proofed to have it because of the VR headset. I want Exynos. I prefer two different SoCs. Having two Snapdragon 820's seems redundant.

$650 iPhone 7 (32gb, 2gb RAM)
or
$500 Xiaomi Mi 5 Pro Edition (128gb, 4gb RAM)

Seems like a no brainer when the Mi 5 Pro is also better than the iPhone SE (64gb) but same price. People pay extra for being stuck in some overrated, overpriced ecosystem when cross-platform apps and multi-platform wielding is the future.

Flagships are usually a waste of money, but I feel like splurging before all their prices fall within a year and a better one always comes out after six months. If I lose the water-resist from iPhone 7, the Note7 makes up for it. I want both Mi 5 and Note7 in sexy black. OLED looks good with a black Note7.

The iPhone 7 is a boring, mediocre design like the 6 series and the 5 series was never all that to me. Huawei comes up with better designs. I can pay less for something with more features and looks better. And MIUI gets faster and not slower as time goes by. Note7 is essentially a S7 edge with an S-Pen but want to adopt to Type C and fast charging already.

I hate glass back on the Note7, but I will rotate between 6-7 phones to not even care. The ceramic black Mi 5 is quite durable. I am already familiar with MIUI which marries the best of both worlds (iOS & Android). Not really into stock Android devices since I find them flavorless and lacking personality. So no Nexus for me.

128gb Mi 5 for home
64gb + (64gb) Note7 for work

Best Snapdragon + Exynos combo to me for the true phone connoisseurs. Better duo than S7 edge and iPhone SE (or any iPhone). The Mi 5 is the 2nd sexiest looking device of 2016 flagship to me behind only the platinum S7 edge. But the Note series is still better to me than the Galaxy S series.

Why wait for an iPhone 7 or 8 when these phones exist already? Everyone with a brain and isn't dense knows Apple have been playing catch up for years. Wait for iPhone 8, and I will bet the mortgage it isn't that much better than an S7 edge and Note7 or has the durability of the Mi 5 Pro's ceramic rear if Apple goes glass.

I find iPhones are pretty cool but have the same overratedness as Titanic and Avatar. Battery life, display, camera, and design, Apple no longer tops in any of it. You pay more for same mantra as being into Apple's walled garden or whatever works for you. Beauty of Android is like learning how to race and drive stick-shift. You HARNESS its power from within.

The most power comes from the user's brain and how well they utilize their phone to their potential. Shallow reviews from people jumping from one phone to the next within a months is quite useless. Most people will never truly unleash a phone's true capability until many months if not years later. That's when you can finally see its true value. Something you can't see superficially. Years after...
 
I will buy iphone 7 because, my strategic is to change my phones for 2 years. Now I'm with iphone 6. Don't think this for iphone 8 is true for 2017. For me, for sure will see iphone 7s, and after this the big changes for the 8 version, but for 2018. Apple never in a hurry with big changes. Greetings!
 
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You keep waiting when Android phones surpasses iPhone every single day to distance themselves further from a snoozefest like iOS. I am losing interest in iPhone 7 and 8. The 8 could be the Galaxy S7 edge without the curve and be closer to edge to edge.

There are TWO flagships this year that do interest me. Xiaomi Mi 5 Pro (ceramic black) is one of them. I didn't know they sell it to the United States. I think Mi 5, OnePlus 3, and ZTE Axon 7 have the best value using Snapdragon 820.

The other is the Note7 so I can use the USB Type-C on both the Mi 5 and Note7 to charge them. S7 edge wasn't future proofed to have it because of the VR headset. I want Exynos. I prefer two different SoCs. Having two Snapdragon 820's seems redundant.

$650 iPhone 7 (32gb, 2gb RAM)
or
$500 Xiaomi Mi 5 Pro Edition (128gb, 4gb RAM)

Seems like a no brainer when the Mi 5 Pro is also better than the iPhone SE (64gb) but same price. People pay extra for being stuck in some overrated, overpriced ecosystem when cross-platform apps and multi-platform wielding is the future.

Flagships are usually a waste of money, but I feel like splurging before all their prices fall within a year and a better one always comes out after six months. If I lose the water-resist from iPhone 7, the Note7 makes up for it. I want both Mi 5 and Note7 in sexy black. OLED looks good with a black Note7.

The iPhone 7 is a boring, mediocre design like the 6 series and the 5 series was never all that to me. Huawei comes up with better designs. I can pay less for something with more features and looks better. And MIUI gets faster and not slower as time goes by. Note7 is essentially a S7 edge with an S-Pen but want to adopt to Type C and fast charging already.

I hate glass back on the Note7, but I will rotate between 6-7 phones to not even care. The ceramic black Mi 5 is quite durable. I am already familiar with MIUI which marries the best of both worlds (iOS & Android). Not really into stock Android devices since I find them flavorless and lacking personality. So no Nexus for me.

128gb Mi 5 for home
64gb + (64gb) Note7 for work

Best Snapdragon + Exynos combo to me for the true phone connoisseurs. Better duo than S7 edge and iPhone SE (or any iPhone). The Mi 5 is the 2nd sexiest looking device of 2016 flagship to me behind only the platinum S7 edge. But the Note series is still better to me than the Galaxy S series.

Why wait for an iPhone 7 or 8 when these phones exist already? Everyone with a brain and isn't dense knows Apple have been playing catch up for years. Wait for iPhone 8, and I will bet the mortgage it isn't that much better than an S7 edge and Note7 or has the durability of the Mi 5 Pro's ceramic rear if Apple goes glass.

I find iPhones are pretty cool but have the same overratedness as Titanic and Avatar. Battery life, display, camera, and design, Apple no longer tops in any of it. You pay more for same mantra as being into Apple's walled garden or whatever works for you. Beauty of Android is like learning how to race and drive stick-shift. You HARNESS its power from within.

The most power comes from the user's brain and how well they utilize their phone to their potential. Shallow reviews from people jumping from one phone to the next within a months is quite useless. Most people will never truly unleash a phone's true capability until many months if not years later. That's when you can finally see its true value. Something you can't see superficially. Years after...

Why exactly do you bother posting? If we're all so dense, surely we couldn't even process what you mean?

Take your head out of your arse. People want different things. It's called life. Deal with it.
 
À la, iPhone 8!

The thing about iPhones always are that they have that must-buy new feature. (And exclusive! You know it's GOT to be exclusive!) Apple usually doesn't release the "marquis phone" without it. Where's the exclusivity here? I mean you could say Airpods are the new exclusive thing but, that's something I could consider contrived.

But with this, the iPhone 8 is what we all want. We don't want this upcoming phone, if every rumor turned out to be true: I'LL WAIT.
Here is what I think (emphasis on ME please)

1) 4S, 5S, 6S were not exclusive and didn't really offer anything to warrant upgrade from 4,5,6 TO ME!
2) I think people who buy iPhone every year are absolutely crazy or don't care about money (I don't count those that are eligible for free upgrade etc. from a provider as that is different story and they should upgrade due to having the latest for free or very small fee - valuable business decision)
3) I think that minimum upgrade cycle should be 2 years (except those above I mentioned) because jump from 4 to 5 etc. is much bigger and provides way more value. If people can stretch it to 3 years or even 4 then they get even more.
4) Apple will do what they always do. Incremental improvements and people will buy it regardless as MOST people have no bloody clue about rumours or even whats inside their phones. They just go and buy one when they need a new one. (if you ask my mum what is difference between iphone 6 and iphone 6s (or even 5) she will tell you that she has no idea and that one is newer. Or that the 5 is smaller. THATS IT! Generic public have very little knowledge. Some know about Apple's refresh cycle, minority know tech specs but majority has no idea. They walk in the store and buy the latest and greatest the advisor or their friends recommend.
5) I was on 3G, then on 4 and then I lasted till 6 and got that. Now I'm waiting to see what the 7 is going to have. If I manage to sell my 6 for good amount and 7 offers something I benefit from greatly then I will consider getting it otherwise I will wait. 6S offered nothing for me, really -> 3D touch? Please, that was a gimmick. Faster? Do I care or notice? And 2GB of ram? Well, maybe that one would be noticable to me the most but do I really wanna waste money on just that? NO I don't.

My point is, Apple will sell tons of phone as people are on different cycles in their upgrades time. Some are still on 5 or 5S and the new 7 might be perfect for them. It won't be massive like iPhone 6 was (there was a reason for 6 having such a huge sales numbers) but it will be ok. Most people are upset that there is no new design this year which I kinda understand but at the end of the day I CARE about what the phone does and not how the phone looks. Would I want new fancy design? Of course I would? Would I want it over new useful features -> hell no! Features first then design.
 
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Here is what I think (emphasis on ME please)

1) 4S, 5S, 6S were not exclusive and didn't really offer anything to warrant upgrade from 4,5,6 TO ME!
2) I think people who buy iPhone every year are absolutely crazy or don't care about money (I don't count those that are eligible for free upgrade etc. from a provider as that is different story and they should upgrade due to having the latest for free or very small fee - valuable business decision)
3) I think that minimum upgrade cycle should be 2 years (except those above I mentioned) because jump from 4 to 5 etc. is much bigger and provides way more value. If people can stretch it to 3 years or even 4 then they get even more.
4) Apple will do what they always do. Incremental improvements and people will buy it regardless as MOST people have no bloody clue about rumours or even whats inside their phones. They just go and buy one when they need a new one. (if you ask my mum what is difference between iphone 6 and iphone 6s (or even 5) she will tell you that she has no idea and that one is newer. Or that the 5 is smaller. THATS IT! Generic public have very little knowledge. Some know about Apple's refresh cycle, minority know tech specs but majority has no idea. They walk in the store and buy the latest and greatest the advisor or their friends recommend.
5) I was on 3G, then on 4 and then I lasted till 6 and got that. Now I'm waiting to see what the 7 is going to have. If I manage to sell my 6 for good amount and 7 offers something I benefit from greatly then I will consider getting it otherwise I will wait. 6S offered nothing for me, really -> 3D touch? Please, that was a gimmick. Faster? Do I care or notice? And 2GB of ram? Well, maybe that one would be noticable to me the most but do I really wanna waste money on just that? NO I don't.

My point is, Apple will sell tons of phone as people are on different cycles in their upgrades time. Some are still on 5 or 5S and the new 7 might be perfect for them. It won't be massive like iPhone 6 was (there was a reason for 6 having such a huge sales numbers) but it will be ok. Most people are upset that there is no new design this year which I kinda understand but at the end of the day I CARE about what the phone does and not how the phone looks. Would I want new fancy design? Of course I would? Would I want it over new useful features -> hell no! Features first then design.
Looking as People as a wide swath differing needs, expectations and wants. The 6s was a record breaker, somebody thought it was worth while. I could care less there isnt a new outer design, I want a new inner design with new innards and new features and I don't know what "people" want except for the 10 posters in this thread.
 
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I’m going to wait for the 2018 iPhone because that is going to be even better than the 2017 iPhone. Anybody who buys a new iPhone before then is dumb and needs to stop enabling Apple’s release of new iPhones before the one I say is going to have everything I want.


Apple needs to also take every gimmicky feature of competitor phones and morph them into life essential features in the iPhone. That includes features announced in new competitor phones released up to a month before the new iPhone I say is going to be the only iPhone worth purchasing.


I will not entertain any viewpoints different from mine. I may acknowledge them with a “Yeah, but….” and continue with my tunnel vision of righteousness.
 
Well, if history repeats, you'll get the form factor of the 2017 model and the stepped-up functionality in the 2018 model - could be the FTW iPhone.

That is UNTIL they issue the 2019 iPhone.

Yup. I'm going to wait until the 7 is announced before I make a decision. My 6+ is still OK and I really wouldn't have a problem waiting another year for the 10th anniversary phone.
 
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because I get a new phone every year. I'm already paying on it for 2 years and then i'd get another phone then and continue to pay on it. So if i'm going to be paying on it I might as well just get a new one every year.
 
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Microsoft did this with the Xbox One S. "We're coming out with this device, but the real new Xbox is coming after that."

Well, then why come out with the product at all? Now that we KNOW about the iPhone 8, we're not going to buy this phone WE'RE GONNA WAIT.

If you look at the phone, it looks just like an iPhone 6s. And with what we've been hearing, it pretty much IS an iPhone 6sII.

It's literally the nothing new iPhone. They did this before with the infamous "iPad 3"

Good thread sir. The same also happened in 1980 at the start of the computer era a CEO launched a new PC and said at the Press conference.....Next years model will be way better. Guess what no one bought that PC. And they went under. Now that won't happen to Apple. But we all know of

2017 10th Anniversary iPhone Pro

# Luxury Packaging for an amazing Unboxing Experience.

And a 1440p OLED Display made by Samsung. And an A11 CPU 4GB of RAM and a new 5.7 inch Redesign

Esentially it will be a Note 5 or Note 7 Samsung is gonna be selling Apple that Same Display for its iPhone Pro it's been tested by Displaymate.com as the Best Mobile Display on the market.

Sadly is the Vast Majority of the Buying Public have no idea about Next year most people are too be in day to day rat race to look ahead.
 
Do people actually believe the 2017 iPhone is going to be some quantum leap in tech?

Since it will be another incremental update, maybe more superficial upgrades in the spec department why buy that when you can perpetually wait for the next iPhone?

The worthiness of a update is very subjective. A lot of people here would say OLED screen would be a massive update. Me? I could care less. Text and pics might look a little better but it's still displaying the same content which is all I'm interested it.
 
On the business side, there's not enough of them. The 6s 2—(I'm going to call it the 6s 2) the 6s 2, I'm not sure that there's anything about that phone... that would make people—who are already more likely to sit on those older phones—want to jump out and buy this one when the real iPhone 7 is right around the corner! Apple can't rely on that subset of users to get them through the quarter.

I mean... when sales numbers don't meet Apple's expectations, they don't release the numbers. This could be the big pitfall investors have been trying to warn us about. It's a pitfall that can't be mitigated.

But why are people not alarmed by this scenario? That Apple is going to put a flagship phone on HOLD, a cop out, just so they can release "the big one" a year later, JUST because it's an Anniversary?

I'm glad you asked! Because I'm going to tell you:

The reason you won't find people so alarmed by the thought that everyone would be inclined to skip this iPhone (the 6s 2) in numbers never-before-seen... is because largely nobody believes the rumor.

Nobody really believes that Apple, in it's current dilemma, needing a hit, that they would purposely waste a valuable launch just because of an anniversary date. I mean, when has Apple ever done that before? When has any company done that?

THEY NEED THIS MONEY! They can't afford people to skimp out on this. They can't rely on those late upgraders, there's not enough of them! There's just not enough!! Perfectly evidenced by the release of the iPhone SE and the sales of the iPhone 6s!!

Speaking for myself, I don't believe it!

And if I DID believe it, if Apple came out and said that or there was real evidence... then I would think that it would be a situation of Apple doesn't have the materials yet, somethings awry!

And THAT's why Apple has to release a 6s 2. There's nothing else they can do!

You sound like a used car sales man
 
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Maybe, just maybe, because most of us use it as a telephone, email, iMessage device and not a status symbol that you wave around in public saying ... hey, look at me!
Wait.....what are you saying......you mean if I buy the new phone and wave it around most people won't be impressed.

Dang it, I was so looking forward to bragging. Oh well maybe I will be popular if I collect more of those pokeman go thingys.
 
Well, it all depends? Are you still in high school ... who knows what weight it'll carry at assembly or in the cafeteria ... teenage bling!
 
Well, it all depends? Are you still in high school ... who knows what weight it'll carry at assembly or in the cafeteria ... teenage bling!

I'm a high school teacher, I can tell you that even teenagers aren't that impressed by someone having the latest iPhone anymore. Nearly all of them have smartphones and at least half of them are iPhones. They've become pretty mundane.
 
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