Will iPhone X screen size satisfy Plus users?

[ke-iron]

Right, anyone who complains about the X doesn't own it.

It's pretty clear you have zero understanding of the UI system of the iPhone.

iPhone graphical elements are displayed based on points, not resolution. The X has a higher resolution than the non-Plus but the content displayed is the same because both are 375 points wide.

Apple Human Interface Guidelines: "In portrait orientation, the width of the display on iPhone X matches the width of the 4.7" displays of iPhone 6, iPhone 7, and iPhone 8."

Had one since day one, BTW.

That isn’t what I said. I said “it is us plus users who are enjoying the iPhone X” that is no way the same as what you’re saying ”Right, anyone who complains about the X doesn't own it.”

It’s pretty clear that you have little reading comprehension skills.

You compare the width of the iPhone X to the width of the regular sized iPhones and then proceed to say the content displayed on it is the same because it’s the same width... So let’s just ignore the length of the iPhone X display. No, stop, just stop.
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Totally wrong, but if you want to believe it, that's fine.

iPhone graphical elements are not based on resolution. iPhone uses a point system to determine what fits on the screen. The X has a slightly smaller canvas than the Plus.

You should really educate yourself first, then come back for discussion.

https://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/ultimate-guide-to-iphone-resolutions

No it is you who need to be educated. This is very simple. Get an iPhone X and get a regular sized iPhone. Put them next to each other and load the same web page. Now you tell me if the same amount of content is displayed. You guys are just talking without actually knowing. Try using these devices side by side first before talking.

 

[PanAm-L1011]

Have you used both X and Plus? The “usable” area is substantially different. I had X for 4 days before I returned it and now waiting for 8 Plus. Apps are not updated for X layout so you waste a lot of space, the notch, gap under the keyboard.. all take away from usable space.

X is a nice idea that was executed poorly. Hopefully next year they have X Plus.

Yes. I had every Plus before the X. Of course a lot of apps aren’t yet optimized but that will come. I like the form factor of the X. After 3 years of having the Plus I’m glad to be rid of the huge footprint and huge bezels.
[doublepost=1510457973][/doublepost]I’m not sure why people have to seek out validation for their choices. The Plus is a great phone I think the X is better. That’s the reason I bought the X. If you feel differently then do what you want. This forum seems filled with 8 users who feel the need to diss the X. Keep the 8 if you like it.

 

[ke-iron]

Have you used both X and Plus? The “usable” area is substantially different. I had X for 4 days before I returned it and now waiting for 8 Plus. Apps are not updated for X layout so you waste a lot of space, the notch, gap under the keyboard.. all take away from usable space.

X is a nice idea that was executed poorly. Hopefully next year they have X Plus.

That is not true, the usable area from a plus to the X is not substantially different. I have had all plus model phones. If you are referring to apps not being updated vs actual screen surface area. Then take it up with app developers for slow updates to their app. The keyboard is in the right position, it will not be lowered because it will become less comfortable to type, it will not gain additional buttons there because the home bar down there.

 

[PanAm-L1011]

That is not true, the usable area from a plus to the X is not substantially different. I have had all plus model phones. If you are referring to apps not being updated vs actual screen surface area. Then take it up with app developers for slow updates to their app. The keyboard is in the right position, it will not be lowered because it will become less comfortable to type, it will not gain additional buttons there because the home bar down there.

Exactly. They placed the keyboard perfectly. It would be much harder to use if it was lower. Many things are much better on the X than the Plus because of the longer X screen. Just a beautiful device.

 

[gahig ulo]

Have you used both X and Plus? The “usable” area is substantially different. I had X for 4 days before I returned it and now waiting for 8 Plus. Apps are not updated for X layout so you waste a lot of space, the notch, gap under the keyboard.. all take away from usable space.

X is a nice idea that was executed poorly. Hopefully next year they have X Plus.

what?u expect that all apps are gonna be optimizes imediately?the iphone 6 and 6 plus took more than 6 months to a year for a named apps to optimized.i will ask you this whats the difference between the 7plus and the 8plus?nothing except for the speedbump the glass back and minor camera improvement.now whats the difference bet. the 6splus/7plus/8plus and the X?so if you already have the 7plus and older and dont like the new X for me it makes no since if you gonna get the 8plus.

 

[cwosigns]

I’ve owned every Plus model (including the 8 Plus as my 2nd phone), as well as the X. I don’t use the 8 Plus ever. The X is the best experience for me.

I liked the extra real estate of the Plus models, but it was more about wanting the top-end camera. In the current line up, that puts the X comfortably at the top.

 

[ke-iron]

I’m going to leave this right here for @JPack and anyone else who says the iPhone X does not display more content than the regular sized iPhone because it’s the same width. Apparently you think the length is irrelevant and width alone determines the amount of content displayed.

 

[gahig ulo]

I’m going to leave this right here for @JPack and anyone else who says the iPhone X does not display more content than the regular sized iPhone because it’s the same width. Apparently you think the length is irrelevant and width alone determines the amount of content displayed.

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the x is a little wider than the regular 8 i measured it and when you read text its bigger and more pleasant to the eyes

 

[qba-system]

what?u expect that all apps are gonna be optimizes imediately?the iphone 6 and 6 plus took more than 6 months to a year for a named apps to optimized.i will ask you this whats the difference between the 7plus and the 8plus?nothing except for the speedbump the glass back and minor camera improvement.now whats the difference bet. the 6splus/7plus/8plus and the X?so if you already have the 7plus and older and dont like the new X for me it makes no since if you gonna get the 8plus.

That is why I said it’s a nice concept/idea. I use a lot of financial apps and can bet you that optimizing them for X is not their priority. Also within iOS you have those “gaps” - notch on top and the empty space/bar at the bottom.
I currently have 6s plus and the 8 plus will give me a decent speed bump and a better camera (faster cpu and extra GB ram). I know this is not a big “upgrade”, but I really liked how snappy the X was. I really don’t care about glass back, wireless charging or water resistance. I agree with you that 6s/7/8 is almost the same phone for a typical user.

 

[gahig ulo]

That is why I said it’s a nice concept/idea. I use a lot of financial apps and can bet you that optimizing them for X is not their priority. Also within iOS you have those “gaps” - notch on top and the empty space/bar at the bottom.
I currently have 6s plus and the 8 plus will give me a decent speed bump and a better camera (faster cpu and extra GB ram). I know this is not a big “upgrade”, but I really liked how snappy the X was. I really don’t care about glass back, wireless charging or water resistance. I agree with you that 6s/7/8 is almost the same phone for a typical user.

yeah thats why apple probably made the 8 and 8plus for user like you.but for me it make more since to get the X though

 

[JPack]

That isn’t what I said. I said “it is us plus users who are enjoying the iPhone X” that is no way the same as what you’re saying ”Right, anyone who complains about the X doesn't own it.”

It’s pretty clear that you have little reading comprehension skills.

You compare the width of the iPhone X to the width of the regular sized iPhones and then proceed to say the content displayed on it is the same because it’s the same width... So let’s just ignore the length of the iPhone X display. No, stop, just stop.
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No it is you who need to be educated. This is very simple. Get an iPhone X and get a regular sized iPhone. Put them next to each other and load the same web page. Now you tell me if the same amount of content is displayed. You guys are just talking without actually knowing. Try using these devices side by side first before talking.

Nice try moving the goal posts.

You went from being wrong about the display area to talking about display resolution. When you were wrong about display resolution showing more content, you started talking about the height of the display. Good strawman.

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I’m going to leave this right here for @JPack and anyone else who says the iPhone X does not display more content than the regular sized iPhone because it’s the same width. Apparently you think the length is irrelevant and width alone determines the amount of content displayed.

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Doesn't seem like you even read the title of this thread. It's about Plus vs. X.

The photo you've linked clearly shows the width of both devices is 375 points.

No one is arguing the X displays more content than non-Plus.

 

[AttilaTheHun]

I'd like to have an X+ big like an 8+, but bezeless (or nearly), a notch well-rescaled and I'm honestly not too convinced of the face id: I like, for instance, that if I'm holding the iPhone in my hands, on the lock screen, and I see "notifications" I need to tap with my finger to authorize and unlock notifications; very useful if you are close to friends or co-workers and receiving notifications from family members.
In X scenario, while I’m sitting at the table next to my colleagues in the same moment I look at the phone I automatically authorize and unlock notification: I don’t really like it.

Even for purchases on the store: did you happen to mistake and almost buy an app?
By requiring the touch id permission, just click "cancel" and everything get resolved.
All this is done by keeping your eyes on the phone, of course; and if just holding my eyes on the cellphone I accidentally click on an app, the Face ID technology just needs you to look to authorize (am i right?), how could you do it to undo the operation?

I think and hope that will be soon introduced various stages of permissions, throughout the next months/year, in order to protect the user, even in the case of accidental errors or rethinking.

What if Apple confirms a glass back for wireless charge, and a Touch ID sensor (for additional permissions) hidden in the Apple logo???
Am I dreaming here??

Just bought the iPhone 8+ unlocked sim free installed my ATT and I am Happy upgrade from 6+ maybe next year if the XI + will better one

 

[PanAm-L1011]

Nice try moving the goal posts.

You went from being wrong about the display area to talking about display resolution. When you were wrong about display resolution showing more content, you started talking about the height of the display. Good strawman.

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Doesn't seem like you even read the title of this thread. It's about Plus vs. X.

The photo you've linked clearly shows the width of both devices is 375 points.

No one is arguing the X displays more content than non-Plus.

Why are people even arguing. Get what you like and leave it at that. After the 6, 6s, and 7 I thought the 8 was BORING. Same old design, same old bezels. I love the X. Don't be jealous.

 

[THE JUICEMAN]

No. I was pretty disappointed at the size of the X. Coming from as a Plus user. But I am trying to get use to the X size now. It's been exactly a week, feels better now. But if I watch another youtube video on a Plus, I will be hating my X. It's just the fact...

I’ve just hit this same point myself. Watching YouTube on the X is terrible once you’ve gotten used to a plus model iPhone. Don’t zoom and it’s tiny. Zoom and you are cutting off content along with the notch and home button also cutting off things. It makes me sad. Face ID is good but not as versatile as Touch ID and the battery is worse. For all these reasons I’m considering swapping it for the 8 plus. Hopefully there’s a X plus next year. It has been nice holding a smaller device but those other things I mentioned previously are more important.

 

[ke-iron]

Nice try moving the goal posts.

You went from being wrong about the display area to talking about display resolution. When you were wrong about display resolution showing more content, you started talking about the height of the display. Good strawman.

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Doesn't seem like you even read the title of this thread. It's about Plus vs. X.

The photo you've linked clearly shows the width of both devices is 375 points.

No one is arguing the X displays more content than non-Plus.

This is about the X vs the plus screen size.

I admitted in an earlier post I was wrong about the screen surface area, as I thought the iPhone X total screen area was bigger, but it turns out it’s only 2.6% smaller than the plus. I thought it was bigger at first because it displayed more content and it seemed bigger. I said the size difference was not significant even though you or others said it was.

I’m only referencing the display resolution because you said the iPhone X displays the same amount of content as a regular iPhone.

I am only referencing the height because it is relevant. We are talking about the screen size.

Y’all brought it up. I referenced screen resolution because someone else said. “ LOL! I rather have a usable screen than one that is slim and tall. I can fit more on the 8 plus one. Idon't have to scroll as much reading pages,emails, etc. And on Youtube videos I have a bigger screen on the 8 plus because that notch cuts it out. Sorry, that you refuse to see the light, but the facts are out there.“

This is what you said “iPhone graphical elements are displayed based on points, not resolution. The X has a higher resolution than the non-Plus but the content displayed is the same because both are 375 points wide.”

Again, I only reference resolution because someone else said they can fit more on the plus screen which isn’t true.

The X vs regular sized iPhone. Safari shows more.

The X vs a plus sized iPhone. See the number of rows of icons displayed is the same amount, and this app isn’t even optimized for the iPhone X taller screen. Notice how the top and bottom have black bars. When this app is optimized it will display more content than its plus counterpart.

The X vs a plus sized iPhone. The weather app shows more

 

[gtg465x]

And a good section of that surface area is USELESS due to the notch. So PhoneArena does not take that into consideration. Subtract that area of the screen and there is a much larger difference.

Notch takes up less than 2% of the screen I believe. Stop blowing it out of proportion. People are acting like it takes up the top third of the screen lol. About all you could fit in the notch is the time, which is what my iPhone 7 Plus had there.

 

[qba-system]

Notch takes up less than 2% of the screen I believe. Stop blowing it out of proportion. People are acting like it takes up the top third of the screen lol. About all you could fit in the notch is the time, which is what my iPhone 7 Plus had there.

This is a screen shot form the X. See how much space is “wasted”

 

[gtg465x]

The photo you've linked clearly shows the width of both devices is 375 points.

Not sure what you’re talking about exactly, but the width of the regular 8 and X are not the same. The width of the X is equivalent to a 5.0 inch 16x9 screen, not a 4.7 inch 16x9 screen like the regular 8. Meaning width is almost right in between regular 8 and 8 Plus.
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This is a screen shot form the X. See how much space is “wasted”

The f are you talking about? Most of the part you highlighted at the top is not covered by the notch and looks the same on an 8 Plus. And the part at the bottom is only empty when the keyboard is up, not at other times.

 

[ke-iron]

This is a screen shot form the X. See how much space is “wasted”

That is not wasted space. Both top and bottom have buttons in those same spaces you call wasted space. It is something some people don’t like but that doesn’t mean it’s wasted space because you want more buttons there or the space itself smaller or just gone entirely. I think it’s a smart design decision to leave it the way it is. Add buttons at the bottom and people would complain it looks too cluttered. Move the keyboard down and it will be less comfortable. I’m not sure what you’re complaining about at the top though.

 

[MDF314159265]

I’ve been a plus user since the 6 and made the switch to the X - I tell you, I’ve hardly noticed a difference. The screen is longer and narrower, yes, but not so much that it feels like an entirely different device. Overall, I love the smaller form factor without feeling like I sacrificed on screen size. I also love having the better camera option in a smaller form factor. For me, the X is a win-win.

Edit: and a note regarding the “notch” - get over it! Apple could have gone without the notch and just made a thicker bezel up top, thereby pushing the time and other info down into your “useable” screen space. Instead, they opted to give us, the users, more useable screen space and took advantage of otherwise unused space and tucked the time, signal and battery info into those corners, freeing up screen space for us to use.
In order for the Face ID parts to work, they have to be there, up top, where they are. So notch and more screen space or thicker bezel and less screen space.
Use the X and see for yourself that it’s really not that big of a deal. Switch from a plus and see that it’s not really that much of a difference.
Stop being so negative!

 

[Pascal325]

Yes. I had every Plus before the X. Of course a lot of apps aren’t yet optimized but that will come. I like the form factor of the X. After 3 years of having the Plus I’m glad to be rid of the huge footprint and huge bezels.
[doublepost=1510457973][/doublepost]I’m not sure why people have to seek out validation for their choices. The Plus is a great phone I think the X is better. That’s the reason I bought the X. If you feel differently then do what you want. This forum seems filled with 8 users who feel the need to diss the X. Keep the 8 if you like it.

Last I checked, seems the other way. More X users dissing the 8. And there are a lot of owners that had the X went back to the 8 plus. You continue to ignore the facts that the 8 plus still has the more accurate screen, larger more usable screen, longer battery life which are most of the peoples concerns. Again, the X replaces the normal sized 8, not the plus.
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I’ve been a plus user since the 6 and made the switch to the X - I tell you, I’ve hardly noticed a difference. The screen is longer and narrower, yes, but not so much that it feels like an entirely different device. Overall, I love the smaller form factor without feeling like I sacrificed on screen size. I also love having the better camera option in a smaller form factor. For me, the X is a win-win.

Edit: and a note regarding the “notch” - get over it! Apple could have gone without the notch and just made a thicker bezel up top, thereby pushing the time and other info down into your “useable” screen space. Instead, they opted to give us, the users, more useable screen space and took advantage of otherwise unused space and tucked the time, signal and battery info into those corners, freeing up screen space for us to use.
In order for the Face ID parts to work, they have to be there, up top, where they are. So notch and more screen space or thicker bezel and less screen space.
Use the X and see for yourself that it’s really not that big of a deal. Switch from a plus and see that it’s not really that much of a difference.
Stop being so negative!

Let me put it this way. The NOTCH is included those little sections in screen size measurements which is making the X like it has more screen usable area when it doesn't. That is why the plus actually is better in that area. If people would just ignore the area where all the alerts are or lte,signal,etc are then it would have a better measurements to compare and make more sense. Let's talk about usable space not wasted space like that.

 

[ke-iron]

Last I checked, seems the other way. More X users dissing the 8. And there are a lot of owners that had the X went back to the 8 plus. You continue to ignore the facts that the 8 plus still has the more accurate screen, larger more usable screen, longer battery life which are most of the peoples concerns. Again, the X replaces the normal sized 8, not the plus.
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Let me put it this way. The NOTCH is included those little sections in screen size measurements which is making the X like it has more screen usable area when it doesn't. That is why the plus actually is better in that area. If people would just ignore the area where all the alerts are or lte,signal,etc are then it would have a better measurements to compare and make more sense. Let's talk about usable space not wasted space like that.

I don’t think the X is a replacement for the regular sized iPhones. Most people who upgraded from plus sizes to the X are extremely satisfied with the size and performance. Myself included, my friends included. I actually know people first hand who couldn’t wait to ditch their plus phones. You keep going on about the screen being larger and more usable when in reality it’s a pinch bigger and no more usable than the iPhone X. The space around the notch isn’t wasted because you say it is. It has content up there and it is user interactive, I can pull down notifications and control center.

You think if you say a lie over and over again it becomes the truth?

I have uploaded multiple screenshots showing the iPhone X can display more information on its screen than both the regular sized iPhone and the plus as well. The plus sized iPhones display area is 2.6% larger over the iPhone X. You continue to ignore the facts. I am seeing ignorance like never before.

Apple always said people didn’t want bigger phones, they wanted larger screens. They finally made a bigger phone with a larger screen, the plus. However now they are able to make a larger screen in a smaller sized phone that is mostly screen. That was their goal! You ignore the pictures I posted and you even ignored what Apple themselves said.

If they were to make a bigger sized iPhone X, the screen size would have to be significantly bigger than the iPhone X to justify the size increase. At that point it will be reaching galaxy note phone sizes and there is a very, very small percentage of people who uses iPhones that want a phone that big. We wanted bigger screens not bigger phones.

And what do you mean the 8 plus “still has the more accurate screen”?

 

[Pascal325]

I don’t think the X is a replacement for the regular sized iPhones. Most people who upgraded from plus sizes to the X are extremely satisfied with the size and performance. Myself included, my friends included. I actually know people first hand who couldn’t wait to ditch their plus phones. You keep going on about the screen being larger and more usable when in reality it’s a pinch bigger and no more usable than the iPhone X. The space around the notch isn’t wasted because you say it is. It has content up there and it is user interactive, I can pull down notifications and control center.

You think if you say a lie over and over again it becomes the truth?

I have uploaded multiple screenshots showing the iPhone X can display more information on its screen than both the regular sized iPhone and the plus as well. The plus sized iPhones display area is 2.6% larger over the iPhone X. You continue to ignore the facts. I am seeing ignorance like never before.

Apple always said people didn’t want bigger phones, they wanted larger screens. They finally made a bigger phone with a larger screen, the plus. However now they are able to make a larger screen in a smaller sized phone that is mostly screen. That was their goal! You ignore the pictures I posted and you even ignored what Apple themselves said.

If they were to make a bigger sized iPhone X, the screen size would have to be significantly bigger than the iPhone X to justify the size increase. At that point it will be reaching galaxy note phone sizes and there is a very, very small percentage of people who uses iPhones that want a phone that big. We wanted bigger screens not bigger phones.

And what do you mean the 8 plus “still has the more accurate screen”?

Your screen shots were of the regular 8 not the 8 plus. You were already corrected on that multiple times. Sorry, but it has been proven on this forum in multiple topics that plus has more usable screen when reading anything. Wider is better not taller.

The 8 plus has more accurate colors. Again discussed in other topics. Please research.

The iPhone X has the same 375 horizontal points of logical resolution like the iPhone 8. In comparison, the iPhone 8 Plus has a higher 414 point logical resolution. This means app developers have more area to either add more elements or stretch them further apart. You also lose area on the X when the keyboard is open, as Apple added padding at the bottom presumably to prevent the keyboard from being placed too low. Lastly, in landscape mode too, the iPhone X offers a smaller viewable area than the iPhone 8 Plus, because of the narrower width.


[doublepost=1510506972][/doublepost]http://www.iphonehacks.com/2017/11/5-reasons-iphone-8-plus-better-iphone-x.html

5 Reasons the iPhone 8 Plus is Better Than the iPhone X

1. More Viewable Content Area
2. Longer Battery Life
3. Cheaper to Repair if Broken
4. Face ID vs Touch ID
5. No Notch-Related Issues




[doublepost=1510507238][/doublepost]Another great link. Shows the size difference between the 8, 8 plus and X. Sorry, the X can't touch the 8 plus. There is a huge difference. The 8 plus fits all that info without making the font so small to fit it. You can't argue with the facts.

https://www.phonearena.com/news/iPh...rison-Does-it-really-fit-more-content_id99644

 

[ke-iron]

Your screen shots were of the regular 8 not the 8 plus. You were already corrected on that multiple times. Sorry, but it has been proven on this forum in multiple topics that plus has more usable screen when reading anything. Wider is better not taller.

The 8 plus has more accurate colors. Again discussed in other topics. Please research.

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[doublepost=1510506972][/doublepost]http://www.iphonehacks.com/2017/11/5-reasons-iphone-8-plus-better-iphone-x.html

5 Reasons the iPhone 8 Plus is Better Than the iPhone X

1. More Viewable Content Area
2. Longer Battery Life
3. Cheaper to Repair if Broken
4. Face ID vs Touch ID
5. No Notch-Related Issues

Stop just stop. You continue to spread lies. I posted multiple pictures showing the iPhone X next to the regular sized iPhone and the plus. Weather reading or showing other content the iPhone X displays more, period. You’re just going to look at the pictures and say that’s not what it is?

In all of the pictures the iPhone X has more content on screen for the exception of one where the developer did not yet update the app to remove the black bars on top and bottom. If the developer updates the app it will display more “content”

The iPhone 8plus does not have more accurate colors.

This is a direct quote from DisplayMate who are industry professionals with labs that do testing with professional tools. “It is the most color accurate display that we have ever measured. It is Visually Indistinguishable From Perfect, and is very likely considerably better than any mobile display, monitor, TV or UHD TV that you have.”

You ignored the previous post from professionals who measured the displays and concluded the plus display is only 2.6% exactly larger.

You ignored the picture proof that the iPhone X displays more content on screen. Seems as you don’t know a larger screen doesn’t mean more content.

You’ll will probably ignore DisplayMate accurate assessment.

The lies you tell reminds me of only one other person who would get on national tv and lie to the entire country. Good job.

Edit:

I looked at the iPhone hacks link you provided.

1. They compare the specs of the display but did not provide actual pictures of what the display looks like side by side to the iPhone X with various content on the display.

2. The iPhone X consumes more power because of the display, and I don't think this is a reason to get the plus over the iPhone X.

3. The phone has glass on both sides, the phone is heavy and densely packed. If it drops expect it to break. This is not a reason to get the plus over the iPhone X.

4. Unlocking your phone while resting on a table is not a big deal. Just stop. If you really need to just type in the password.

5. Valid point, in landscape mode less content is displayed on webpages and Apple mail application. This is not an issue because people don't buy phones with the intention of using it in landscape mode the majority of the time. Again, this is valid but a weak point.

These are not real world issues that would dissuade someone from purchasing the iPhone X.

 

[x34]

In all of the pictures the iPhone X has more content on screen

more than 8 sized iphones but not more than PLUS sized iphones. stop it please!