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Will the 'pressure point' blemish on the 6S Plus be addressed in a hardware revision?
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Who said I was searching for the perfect screen? I kept my replacement. LOL. Meaning I accepted the defect and moved on. I got way better things to do than worry about this. So calm down no one losing sleep over this. I don't know much about LCD tech? Lol trust me I am more technical than what you may assume. It's what I do for a living, but I don't need to go there. I'll just let you assume you know more than others.
It's not uncommon for manufacturing and/or assembly processes to change at a moment's notice. If this is as simple as pulling the lcd up a fraction of a millimeter (I don't know if that's the case, but it was suggested here at least once) and Apple is acknowledged thisbisnso issue its a very real possibility it gets fixed in assembly. Same parts, same production time, slight tweak in how it goes together.
Just pontificating here. I really couldn't say whether this is an actual issue. I can't see it on any of our phones despite trying all sorts of backdrops and backlight strengths and so we either got really lucky or it's just not as huge an issue as some are suggesting. I've not gone as far as inspecting display units since, well, I wouldn't gain much from this knowledge.
Again for me, 9 out of 9 phones. There hasn't been a single 6S Plus, that I haven't seen the issue.
It is very consistent. So either, it's a component causing it or it's an assembly process. If it were simply an LCD defect, it would be rather random where it would happen. Sure there have been posts about yellowing, blotchiness, etc. But that's not what this is.
I went to iFixIt, and reviewed the teardown. Behind the screen is the battery at the location. So the defect is in the screen itself. My suspicion is it is related to the back lighting, and is related to the rumor of the original iPhone 6S Plus constraints.
Images of the backlight film show that there is adhesive or some contact along the edges of the screen. If they spot "weld" or adhere at points along the screen - by whatever means used to perform this assembly process, it could have effected enough screens that Apple didn't have enough supply and they had to choose "roll with it" or wait. Waiting would completely mess with their numbers, and rolling with it would be iffy in that not everyone would notice and it's probably a yield problem anyway.
In producing products, you have a batch of components. However you can't check all the components you can only statistically check some of them. While doing this, rejection is not the component but the whole batch. Therefore enough spot checks failed that they would have no choice but to use "B" stock. Apart from all the other typical defects, this spot along the left could have been the single largest defect on a vast scale.
All the phones I have had are either Week 39 or Week 38, out of the same factory, and all have the spot. If we wait, and go back several months later, chances are, the problem will be sorted.
It is very consistent. So either, it's a component causing it or it's an assembly process. If it were simply an LCD defect, it would be rather random where it would happen. Sure there have been posts about yellowing, blotchiness, etc. But that's not what this is.
I went to iFixIt, and reviewed the teardown. Behind the screen is the battery at the location. So the defect is in the screen itself. My suspicion is it is related to the back lighting, and is related to the rumor of the original iPhone 6S Plus constraints.
Images of the backlight film show that there is adhesive or some contact along the edges of the screen. If they spot "weld" or adhere at points along the screen - by whatever means used to perform this assembly process, it could have effected enough screens that Apple didn't have enough supply and they had to choose "roll with it" or wait. Waiting would completely mess with their numbers, and rolling with it would be iffy in that not everyone would notice and it's probably a yield problem anyway.
In producing products, you have a batch of components. However you can't check all the components you can only statistically check some of them. While doing this, rejection is not the component but the whole batch. Therefore enough spot checks failed that they would have no choice but to use "B" stock. Apart from all the other typical defects, this spot along the left could have been the single largest defect on a vast scale.
All the phones I have had are either Week 39 or Week 38, out of the same factory, and all have the spot. If we wait, and go back several months later, chances are, the problem will be sorted.
The blemish on mine is really quite faint and while I noticed it out of the box thanks to this thread, I guess I'm lucky that it is faint enough and my vision likely poor enough that I fail to notice it on a day-to-day basis. In fact, I've been using the phone for 3 weeks now and completely forgot about it for at least 2 of those weeks until stumbling upon this thread again.
That being said, hope it does eventually get fixed down the line for those that this does bother.
That being said, hope it does eventually get fixed down the line for those that this does bother.
Hey cut that out
I traded up for the rose gold but that reason was totally secondary. I had the 6 + in silver last year and while I totally love the big screen real estate - I hated the poor performance with lagginess, glitches and constant reloading of tabs.
My new rose gold phone is 100% better performance wise. I am thrilled with the new features and happy that I have the "preferred" TSMC chip. What more could I ask for.
I love to read these forums to see any defects that others see and maybe I don't. I kept looking for this blemish thing and after straining my eyes and holding my phone in all weird positions, I can just maybe make out a faint "blemish". I just need to stop it and just enjoy my super performing new rose gold phone.
What a bogus myth!
I had to go through 5 or 6 iPhone 4's! The exchanges were not due the infamous antenna issue either! Most of them were related to the terrible QC of the the iPhone body. Jammed, crooked, gaps, unresponsive home button, etc. Some of them looked like Chinese knockoffs.
By the way, Cook was responsible for the supply chain even back then.
I think you're 100% correct.
We pay _Premium Prices_ for our Apple products, we should get premium quality.
I've been silently following this thread since it was created. All the while I have this exact same problem on both the daughters phone and the wife's phone.
Now on our second set of replacements I know this is a frequent problem. The Demo phones in the store have it and while standing in line after checking in for each appointment, others in line were there for the same reason. Also when I spoke to Apple on the phone they kept the call unusually short as if to say "yes we know, we'll replace your phones.
Luckily only one of these replacements has it, to be returned this weekend. The other replacement is just fine. Please note I DID NOT say perfect. All I want is what I paid for.
My new Moto X Pure only cost me $399 plus tax and it's far nicer quality than my iPhone.
It's time for Apple to step up its quality.
I paid $1449 (AUD) for my 6S plus. Beginning to think this..I have the pressure point and bluetooth that does not work.
Well its good to hear one of them does not have this problem. Do you happen to know which week it was produced by the serial number? There are so many issues with screens this year between this, the book spine effect, blue edges etc. you have to just pick one with the least defects and move on. Good for you...keep us posted how you fare with your other replacement you return.
For the past two days the local Apple stores here have been getting new stock in all configurations and I reserved and picked up a SG 64 6S Plus.
I'm pleased to say that this one is pretty good, and I would rate it about a 96% as compared to my old 6 Plus. It has an ever so slight shadow where the blemish was on other phones, but if you were not looking for it you would possibly not notice anything at all. The rest of the display is very good and consistent in the corners. It's never going to be quite the same as the 6 Plus because of the thicker glass, but it's good enough.
A few differences
- This one is week 40, all the others I had were either 36 or 37.
- The color temperature on this display is noticeably warmer than the others I had used. Side by side with my 6 Plus lockscreen pic it's not easy to tell them apart, where before all the 6S Plus displays were more blue and contrasty. There is enough of a difference to wonder if it is a different manufacturers panel.
- This is the first Samsung I have had, all the rest were TSMC. I couldn't care less about the CPU but it's worth noting.
When I was in the store I saw I saw a guy getting a 16 Silver that was quite good as well. So hopefully Apple is adapting and the display issues will soon be a thing of the past.
I'm pleased to say that this one is pretty good, and I would rate it about a 96% as compared to my old 6 Plus. It has an ever so slight shadow where the blemish was on other phones, but if you were not looking for it you would possibly not notice anything at all. The rest of the display is very good and consistent in the corners. It's never going to be quite the same as the 6 Plus because of the thicker glass, but it's good enough.
A few differences
- This one is week 40, all the others I had were either 36 or 37.
- The color temperature on this display is noticeably warmer than the others I had used. Side by side with my 6 Plus lockscreen pic it's not easy to tell them apart, where before all the 6S Plus displays were more blue and contrasty. There is enough of a difference to wonder if it is a different manufacturers panel.
- This is the first Samsung I have had, all the rest were TSMC. I couldn't care less about the CPU but it's worth noting.
When I was in the store I saw I saw a guy getting a 16 Silver that was quite good as well. So hopefully Apple is adapting and the display issues will soon be a thing of the past.
In my experience 90% of the iPhones 6s Plus' have this blemish to varying degrees. If yours is barely noticeable I would call it a win, also so many iPhone 6s Plus' have far worse things than this little blemish. Also I noticed with mine the blotch reduced slightly over a few weeks.
I too noticed a local store received a pretty big shipment and went ahead and reserved one myself. Just to note this is my third one. First was a Silver 6S+ Silver week 36, returned within 14 days for Space Gray week 37 and gave it one last shot at returning and got a Silver week 41 and am happy to report this one a 9.5/10 with my others being 7 and 8.5 due to other issues. I hated to wait this long playing the return game but it seems to have been worth it.
I have been through 3 iPhones 6s+ now. First 2 had this blemish, blue screens & book spine (both TSMC). I managed to reserve one in store today so I exchanged again and received one without the blemish & extremely minor book spine on the top which can only be seen at an angle, it's got a very yellow display and is a Samsung chip.
Makes you wonder if buying the first run production phones is a good idea? Maybe waiting a few months after launch is a safer bet. I toyed with the idea of getting a 6S+ but I don't think I want to even bother now.
I've been thinking the same thing. I'm on my 3rd iPhone 6S+ Gold 128GB and I'd describe it as 'very tolerable'. Never going to get perfect with LCD.
#3 is my current phone and is probably the keeper for me as its the best of the bunch. I've seen 12 other iPhones in Apple Stores and Carrier stores and they are all as good as or worse than my #3. I've yet to see a Uniform screen in an iPhone 6S+.
If >= Week 40 phones are indeed better as reports say then yes, buying LCD based iPhones at launch is a bad idea. Roll on the adoption of AMOLED.
Incidentally, I've noticed that the characteristics of these screens changes over the first few weeks of use. They seem to change colour temperature and backlight uniformity. Some better, some worse. Hang on and make your decision near day 14 of your return window.
- #1 had a really Blue screen and even bluer edges with a yellow stain at the top. Week 36 build.
- #2 had a less Blue screen but with Blue edges. Dead Pixel at the bottom right. Strong yellow to Blue colour shift left to right. Week 36 build.
- #3 has 'The Blemish' on the left and the right side. Slight blue tint but no Blue edges. Slight yellow to blue colour shift left to right. Week 37 build.
#3 is my current phone and is probably the keeper for me as its the best of the bunch. I've seen 12 other iPhones in Apple Stores and Carrier stores and they are all as good as or worse than my #3. I've yet to see a Uniform screen in an iPhone 6S+.
If >= Week 40 phones are indeed better as reports say then yes, buying LCD based iPhones at launch is a bad idea. Roll on the adoption of AMOLED.
Incidentally, I've noticed that the characteristics of these screens changes over the first few weeks of use. They seem to change colour temperature and backlight uniformity. Some better, some worse. Hang on and make your decision near day 14 of your return window.
It is crazy this thread is up to 30 pages....One would think with all of these sites out there that purposely just destroy phones whether it be drop tests, bending etc one of them would find out what the culprit is.
I had two with yellow blotches in the upper left, first one was like a pronounced tear drop of yellow.
What's up with that?
I agree - you'd also think the press would pick up and report on the really bad screen QA.
But no, they report on the non-issue that is the TSMC/Samsung A9 CPU differences.