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LOL, Verizion can't do conference call? I remember doing that back in 2008 on my iPhone 3g XD
As far as initiating a call with more than 3 participants, yeah, I don't think that's something that can be done. Never came across the need for that though in all the years with cell phones or even regular phones, so can't be fully certain.
 
Yeah it's another limitation of CDMA.



What limitation is that? I have had conference call capability for years on my verizon cell phones. However it's a feature I don't think I have ever used as I have a call-conferencing service.


You can do a conference call with Verizon, but with only 3 callers total, including yourself. It's also quite a bit more clunky than AT&T versions. Four instance, to end the call with one person and stay on the phone with the other, you need to end the call completely and call back the person you want to continue talking with.

With GSM phones, you can choose exactly who you would like to hang up with.
 
Simultaneous voice and data on Verizon's network with an iPhone 6 would have me standing in line on release day.

It's something that would be extremely useful to me since I do a lot of business while driving. So I can't listen to Pandora/iTunes Match and Apple/Google maps can't recalculate.

Conference calling isn't as big of a deal for me but I have noticed it's limitations before.

The company I work for will likely be switching to ATT. In my area ATT's coverage is a little better too. I'm looking forward to it, unfortunately it won't be for a little over a year.
 
when I left at&t i thought that I wouldn't miss that but on multiple occasions that I had needed it I wasn't able to. I would like it to be equal with the other carriers iPhones.
 
I didn't think I would miss it when I signed up with Verizon last month to test their service in my area. Turns out I used it more than I thought I did. Now using my AT&T sim again and happy to have this feature back. I doubt Verizon's iPhone 6 will have this feature as their past iPhones haven't .
 
It's something that would be extremely useful to me since I do a lot of business while driving. So I can't listen to Pandora/iTunes Match and Apple/Google maps can't recalculate.


This is exactly the reason it should be implemented. Not infrequently I have been driving, looking for a location using navigation on my phone, and had to ignore a telephone call because I needed the data for my maps. That is unacceptable in 2014. I will either go Android or AT&T if they don't fix this in the iPhone 6.
 
Will the Verizon iPhone 6 be able to surf and talk at the same time?

This is exactly the reason it should be implemented. Not infrequently I have been driving, looking for a location using navigation on my phone, and had to ignore a telephone call because I needed the data for my maps. That is unacceptable in 2014. I will either go Android or AT&T if they don't fix this in the iPhone 6.


The reason it works for AT&T is because of the dual radio chipsets of UMTS and EDGE. 1xRTT and EV-DO Rev. A share the same radio. Can't be done without implementing a dual radio chipset for 1xRTT and EV-DO Rev. A, which I don't think is technically possible. I know, you are probably thinking of LTE? I think you shouldn't be blaming Apple for the way Verizon has implemented that. I know, Apple should just use a chipset capable of SV-DO, but that is just over the top silly when VoLTE will be here soon enough and phones won't need EV-DO or 1xRTT...
 
This is exactly the reason it should be implemented. Not infrequently I have been driving, looking for a location using navigation on my phone, and had to ignore a telephone call because I needed the data for my maps. That is unacceptable in 2014. I will either go Android or AT&T if they don't fix this in the iPhone 6.

I travel all over in rental cars using VZ nav as my gps and somehow don't have this issue. Yes I know it exists however I have not had this problem. It would be nice if iPhone 6 addressed this but is won't. Especially since VZW says they are announcing VOLTE in September.
 
I didn't think I would miss it when I signed up with Verizon last month to test their service in my area. Turns out I used it more than I thought I did. Now using my AT&T sim again and happy to have this feature back. I doubt Verizon's iPhone 6 will have this feature as their past iPhones haven't .

Yeah. Simultaneous voice + data is non-negotiable for me. I will not give that up.

Also, AT&T is the only provider that has signal in my area, so there's that, too. :)
 
I travel all over in rental cars using VZ nav as my gps and somehow don't have this issue. Yes I know it exists however I have not had this problem. It would be nice if iPhone 6 addressed this but is won't. Especially since VZW says they are announcing VOLTE in September.

Somehow all the Verizon limitations are never a big deal to you and somehow you don't ever had that issue before. We know.
Same things you say on every verizon thread:D
 
The reason it works for AT&T is because of the dual radio chipsets of UMTS and EDGE. 1xRTT and EV-DO Rev. A share the same radio. Can't be done without implementing a dual radio chipset for 1xRTT and EV-DO Rev. A, which I don't think is technically possible. I know, you are probably thinking of LTE? I think you shouldn't be blaming Apple for the way Verizon has implemented that. I know, Apple should just use a chipset capable of SV-DO, but that is just over the top silly when VoLTE will be here soon enough and phones won't need EV-DO or 1xRTT...

If it can't be done, then why can every other LTE based phone on Verizon (ie Galaxy S, Note, Moto X, etc.) all do both voice and data at the same time? Don't say it's Verizon's fault, it was Apple's plain and simple.
 
Will the Verizon iPhone 6 be able to surf and talk at the same time?

If it can't be done, then why can every other LTE based phone on Verizon (ie Galaxy S, Note, Moto X, etc.) all do both voice and data at the same time? Don't say it's Verizon's fault, it was Apple's plain and simple.


You are missing the point. I am not talking about that nor did I bring up LTE. Not all LTE phones can do this.

That other phones use a hack doesn't excuse Verizon. So Apple is supposed to use a hack, because others do? There is no standard for the implementation of simultaneous voice and data that you suggest Apple use. It's a hack.
 
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You are missing the point. I am not talking about that nor did I bring up LTE. Not all LTE phones can do this.

That other phones use a hack doesn't excuse Verizon. So Apple is supposed to use a hack, because others do? There is no standard for the implementation of simultaneous voice and data that you suggest Apple use. It's a hack.
Well, SVDO is a standard (as is EVDV). And realistically speaking having separate CDMA and LTE radios/chipset is less than a hack than having them share a radio/chip (as that's kind of more of a hack to save space and all that).
 
Saving space and also battery life.
Apple wouldn't put out a different iPhone that's wider/thicker and battery lasts way less than the rest gsm models just for Verizon and Sprint.
Gsm networks have been able to do that since 3G was out many years ago.
 
You are missing the point. I am not talking about that nor did I bring up LTE. Not all LTE phones can do this.

That other phones use a hack doesn't excuse Verizon. So Apple is supposed to use a hack, because others do? There is no standard for the implementation of simultaneous voice and data that you suggest Apple use. It's a hack.


Actually the Android phones don't use a "hack" to get simultaneous voice and data, the have the proper internals to do it. Apple didn't want to use the internals to have voice and data in the current iPhone, with the current technology. Apple wanted to wait for the latest chipset. So it's actually an Apple issue. If it weren't, again, other Android phones wouldn't be able to do this, out of the box as they are. If you think that it's a "hack" as you say, please explain, as I've used Android phones out of the box, with no "hacking" done.
 
Will the Verizon iPhone 6 be able to surf and talk at the same time?

Well, SVDO is a standard (as is EVDV). And realistically speaking having separate CDMA and LTE radios/chipset is less than a hack than having them share a radio/chip (as that's kind of more of a hack to save space and all that).


Seriously? You are comparing SV-DO with having the multiple antennas and radios need for simultaneous voice and data with LTE? Talk to Qualcomm. They make the radio chipset. Is Verizon even devoting the attention that is required for deploying EV-DO Rev. B to make SV-DO even useful? Don't blame Apple for that. You want Apple to make another special iPhone for Verizon, just because Samsung did? VoLTE is right around the corner. Verizon should be focusing on that.
 
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Seriously? You are comparing SV-DO with having the multiple antennas and radios need for simultaneous voice and data with LTE? Talk to Qualcomm. They make the radio chipset. Is Verizon even devoting the attention that is required for deploying EV-DO Rev. B to make SV-DO even useful? Don't blame Apple for that. You want Apple to make another special iPhone for Verizon, just because Samsung did? VoLTE is right around the corner. Verizon should be focusing on that.
Not blaming anyone for anything in what I was/am saying, simply commenting on the discussion to say there are a number of different ways of going about it from the carrier to chip manufacturer to phone manufacturer. None of them are really specifically better or worse, although in a general sense it would have been better if the support was there on all fronts from an early point rather than finding ways to deal with it later on.
 
Will the Verizon iPhone 6 be able to surf and talk at the same time?

Seriously? You are comparing SV-DO with having the multiple antennas and radios need for simultaneous voice and data with LTE? Talk to Qualcomm. They make the radio chipset. Is Verizon even devoting the attention that is required for deploying EV-DO Rev. B to make SV-DO even useful? Don't blame Apple for that. You want Apple to make another special iPhone for Verizon, just because Samsung did? VoLTE is right around the corner. Verizon should be focusing on that.


Meh, pretty much all manufacturers make a CDMA version for a higher user experience on CDMA networks (not just Verizon and Sprint but world wide).

Google is the one that went on about how it's cheaper to manufacture a single "world phone" with their GSM only Nexus line (excluding the Galaxy Nexus). Obvious difference is then Google passed on that savings.
 
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