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Windows 10 is silly fast, even when compared to Yosemite

bbfc said:
Totally agree about Yosemite. Up until about 10.10.4 it was just awful on my MBP. 10.10.4 fixed some of the issues, but not everything. El Capitan is much improved and responds much better. If I had an SSD I'd probably see more of a benefit.
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With an ssd you would see a huge benefit. I highly recommend it my friend. I would not run osx on anything but an ssd, in fact I don plan on owning anything with an internal spinner ever again. If I had to run osx on a spinner I would certainly go windows, but with an ssd I am sticking with osx for now. I REALLY want el cap to keep me here, maybe it will. I already have a lot of mac apps and am pretty set with what I need.

Yes, 10.4 is better. That's my point though, waiting this many months for this to happen is really pretty sad from a company like apple. They could do better but with their market segment growing I do not see it happening, maybe if 10 pushes them some.
 
Gav2k said:
Typical Windows behaviour for years now. Yet my MacBooks all still boot rapidly after months/years of use
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I have my yosemite on ssd and windows on spinner and boot time is quicker for yosemite, but app launch, speed of apps, browser, etc. is far slower on yosemite. Even with yosemite on ssd.

On spinner boot time for yosemite was slow on spinner from the start.
 
Toltepeceno said:
I have my yosemite on ssd and windows on spinner and boot time is quicker for yosemite, but app launch, speed of apps, browser, etc. is far slower on yosemite. Even with yosemite on ssd.

On spinner boot time for yosemite was slow on spinner from the start.
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Agreed. OS X boots quicker, but Windows loads apps much quicker and performs better. I do prefer OS X but wish Apple could replicate the performance of Windows.
 
bbfc said:
Agreed. OS X boots quicker, but Windows loads apps much quicker and performs better. I do prefer OS X but wish Apple could replicate the performance of Windows.
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I hate to jinx myself but I think the services shutdown and kernal panics may have disappeared with 4. I have had more kernal panics with yosemite than I had with windows 98. I also have come to prefer osx, which is why I am not going anywhere for now. If apple, after el cap, releases another like yosemite though it will be time for thought. I WILL give them a chance, I was not hasty when I switched to osx.
 
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Windows boots incredibly fast if you use any newer mainboard with a properly optimized UEFI. On my friends desktop it boots easily twice as fast if not more than on my MBP. It is sort of an insta boot. SSD + almost 4Ghz quad + modern mainboard makes a big difference. Post takes for ever on the MBP and virtually no time at all on an optimized UEFI mainboard.
 
Just for scores.

Yosemite/El Cap on Evo 850 SATA3 : 11 seconds

Win10 on Evo 850 SATA2 : 9 seconds

Only when there are no updates to process. Note, you start counting 2-3 seconds after the chime. There is no disk activity before that.
 
dusk007 said:
Windows boots incredibly fast if you use any newer mainboard with a properly optimized UEFI. On my friends desktop it boots easily twice as fast if not more than on my MBP. It is sort of an insta boot. SSD + almost 4Ghz quad + modern mainboard makes a big difference. Post takes for ever on the MBP and virtually no time at all on an optimized UEFI mainboard.
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10 posts a lot quicker on the wife's new hp envy than my mac so you have something there, she doesn't have an ssd though.
 
Windows 10 on my Asus laptop is quicker than my rMBP in boot, app speeds, and moving around the OS. I've used Windows since 98 and this MacBook Pro is my first Mac. I'm still learning OS X and I like it quite a bit, but Windows for me is more familiar and that is what keeps me using it. I'm sure over time I will be as comfortable with OS X as I am with Windows.

Asus 15.6"
8GB RAM
1TB HHD
i7

Mid 2014 rMBP 13"
8GB RAM
256GB SSD
2.6 i5
 
Apple just need to start optimising OS X to use as little disk activity as possible. Just because there are super fast SSDs out there doesn't means they can start just getting lazy when it comes to optimising. If they optimised files sizes and launch times for HDDs, then SSDs would also see the difference as they would be launching faster too. El Cap is supposed to have 1.4X app launch times, so it will be interesting to see how it turns out.
 
Who cares how quick it boots, does Windows reliably wake from sleep properly, not freak out when i plug/unplug devices, etc. yet?
 
Let's see what happens now. The current OSX / iOS platform is not a tiny bit better than Windows was and is. Apple needs to put it's **** together. On the other hand, MS needs Apps for W10 mobile phones and good quality devices / hardware. Interesting times. Consumers will profit from that.
 
throAU said:
Who cares how quick it boots, does Windows reliably wake from sleep properly, not freak out when i plug/unplug devices, etc. yet?
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Yes. Make from sleep is a little slower, just by just a second. App launch times seem better on Windows, and there is no issue when plugging in and out devices.
 
MartinAppleGuy said:
Yes. Make from sleep is a little slower, just by just a second. App launch times seem better on Windows, and there is no issue when plugging in and out devices.
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Everything is quicker on windows here, windows even runs good on spinner. Hoping el cap closes the gap a little.
 
KingArthurVI said:
I totally agree with OP and other posters' sentiments. I hate to admit this but Apple really has to step up their game 🙁

Cortana is also pretty helpful: I right-clicked a tracking number on Amazon and clicked the "Cortana" button on the drop down selection and a Cortana sidebar came up with full detailed status on my shipment.

The only big complaint I have is that Bootcamp always runs crazy hot on a Mac... and that's not even Microsoft's problem.
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Thanks for the tip on tracking - Cortana nailed it!
 
How is it running on the Surface 3? Have been mulling over picking one up vs. waiting for SP4 (recently sold my SP3)
 
I agree, win10 is quite a bit faster than Yosemite, I haven't tested El Capitan enough to say either way other than boot.

Boot times (Tested on battery):
Acer V7 latptop (4720hq/16GB/256GB mSata SSD) - about 10s power button to login (UEFI)
Elitebook 850 (4600u/16GB/256GB Samsung 840 pro SSD) - about 10-12s power button to login (UEFI)
2015 rMBP (4870HQ I think/16GB/PCIE insane SSD w/El Capitan) - about 12-13s power button to login

I haven't had a chance to play around much inside El Capitan, but I think the best it could do is just match windows 10 speed. As others have said here, W10 runs insanely good even on really old hardware and non-ssd systems. They've done a great job, couldn't have done much better in my opinion.

Apple will be fine and continue to cater. The majority of people that buy their products want all the fancy integration between the iphone/ipad/mac....call hand offs, messaging, airdrop, and many other mac only ecosystem features, and the best trackpad on the market (still).

I love both platforms really, I really like seeing the competition and love using both OS at the moment.
 
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Well your computer isn't big enough to handle the neural network, that powers Cortana/Siri/Google Now Suggestions. Those things can be traversed quickly but they are huge. They'd need a lot more RAM than you have.
Internet bandwidth is kind of a necessity for these services and that will remain so.

I also read that bad cheap microphones cause it some troubles as well. They are some kinks that need to be figured out until this can benefit everyone. It needs preferential network treatment and good enough hardware.
 
dusk007 said:
Well your computer isn't big enough to handle the neural network, that powers Cortana/Siri/Google Now Suggestions. Those things can be traversed quickly but they are huge. They'd need a lot more RAM than you have.
Internet bandwidth is kind of a necessity for these services and that will remain so.

I also read that bad cheap microphones cause it some troubles as well. They are some kinks that need to be figured out until this can benefit everyone. It needs preferential network treatment and good enough hardware.
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I'm using a good USB webcam. Yeah I know they need bandwidth but it's a shame there isn't a fallback to simple localhost functions (set alarm, etc) when the bandwidth isn't available.
 
dusk007 said:
Well your computer isn't big enough to handle the neural network, that powers Cortana/Siri/Google Now Suggestions. Those things can be traversed quickly but they are huge. They'd need a lot more RAM than you have.
Internet bandwidth is kind of a necessity for these services and that will remain so.

I also read that bad cheap microphones cause it some troubles as well. They are some kinks that need to be figured out until this can benefit everyone. It needs preferential network treatment and good enough hardware.
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Can you recommend a mic?
 
Not really my area of expertise. I just use the one that comes with the web cam, but the results aren't amazing.
 
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