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The stainless steel watches are visually very different than the aluminum ones. No one cares if your watch connects to LTE or not, if you want a flashier look go for the stainless models.

Also the digital crown has a red ring for LTE models so your serial number argument is kinda BS—if you're troubleshooting a watch it's super easy to tell.
Exactly. LTE is about utility. It’s not as if people ‘flash’ their LTE iPads in any special way. You want luxury then go for a premium case!
 
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Yes, a white ring around the crown rather than a red one. That way it's a neutral color and doesn't clash with other colors on the watch / bands / clothing.
While we’re on the topic I’m not sure someone can tell that I have a MacBook pro 13” or a macbook right? I bet that really upsets apple
 
The stainless steel watches are visually very different than the aluminum ones. No one cares if your watch connects to LTE or not, if you want a flashier look go for the stainless models.

Also the digital crown has a red ring for LTE models so your serial number argument is kinda BS—if you're troubleshooting a watch it's super easy to tell.
1. Apple cares. They make more money off the LTE, so they want people to be reminded they have it and to have something other people ask about.
2. Looking up a serial number is not easier than a colored ring for identifying a feature.
 
Exactly. LTE is about utility. It’s not as if people ‘flash’ their LTE iPads in any special way. You want luxury then go for a premium case!
I think you are conflating 'flashing' hardware with casual discussion with friends.
 
Nevertheless, lots of folks will surely be ordering one, especially those with watches that are 2 or 3 generations old.

Apple's website will also naturally have a more complete description of the Watch 7 tomorrow, so anyone who really wants to study the differences will have the ability to do that before ordering.

I really don't see this as such a big problem or issue. Don't order one until you know enough about it to be sure it is what you want or need!
Expected reply from a self-blinded Apple apologist. If we wait to find out more information about this the day of preordering, they will all sell out due to constrained supply chains. Thanks for the impractical advice.
 
Honestly, I can't help but feel this just reflects Apple's arrogance. They really expect that their "faithful" will pre-order the new watch just to make sure they get it first, without even knowing what they're buying.

They probably also feel that with a starting price of "only" $399, it's pocket change for their customer-base. More arrogance....

Arrogance? I suppose they likely don't have a problem taking money from people who would make uninformed buying decisions to only regret it later. But seeing that this issue only exists for maybe one hour of one day, I don't really think that Apple has this big plan around "arrogance". It seems more like the old saying that a fool and their money are soon departed. I don't think that is arrogance, but maybe they do feel smarter than those people who throw away their money, and therefore have a sense of arrogance.

Not the point really is it? People are going to feel rushed to complete their order to make sure they get it on launch day. No excuse for not letting the public have this information beforehand.

I am confused by the points that keeps popping up over and over again. This really seems like a non-issue unless you lack self control.

-If you are just a "normal" person than Apple Watch is just that, no "Series X", just an Apple Watch and you go buy whatever the current model is and all of this "uproar" is meaningless to you.

If you are a "tech" person....
-If you have money to "burn" then the specs shouldn't matter to you.
-If you don't have money to "burn" but have FOMO and make hasty decisions because of your FOMO, then you pay a price for giving into the FOMO
-If you are someone who doesn't have money to burn and doesn't give into FOMO, then you will just wait for the information to be released and then make your decision. Likely the information will be sufficient within an hour of the product going on sale. For those who don't have the knowledge or skills to do their own assessment, those people might need to wait for a day or two for others to put their reviews out. Wow, such a LONG TIME to wait to be able to make an informed decision on spending $400-$1,200....

And likely a LOT of other variations on buying scenarios. Point being, the only people "affected" by this article would be people who are making a tech based decision and also can't control their FOMO.

My buying situation is pretty straight forward, I have waited to upgrade for a while because my AW does what I need it to do. However, recently something has occurred and I now want my elderly father wearing an Apple Watch for the heart rate monitoring, EKG, and fall detection. I am going to give him my AW4 and get the 7. I don't care about the stats because I am not upgrading for "tech" reasons. I don't care if the 8 is "so much better" either. If it is, cool, in a few years when maybe I decide to upgrade again the 12 will be probably better than that, it's usually how tech goes.
 
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It does nothing except bolster the obvious. What is happening now is inexplicable otherwise. A major last minute change is perfectly acceptable explanation.

It is well known that Apple has multiple prototype candidates for a release, especially when a major redesign is being worked on. We didn't get choice A this year.

It is not "well known" that Apple has multiple designs for products. AFAIK that has never been reported by any reputable outlet, ever. You summarily saying so does not make it true. It has also never been reported that Apple switched to a "backup" design before.

The "major redesign" you speak of was, frankly, hideous and never made any practical sense. The upcoming Series 7 includes a redesigned body, new screen, and multiple new parts—not quite what you would expect for a last-minute, slapdash switch. And if Apple had made a last-minute switch, don't you think they would have done so in time to release it on schedule? This isn't the company's first rodeo, after all.

Literally the only piece of "evidence" that Apple changed the Watch design is that three oft-wrong leakers were wrong. That's all. Everything else is extremely circumstantial, at best.
 
I also always wondered why Apple putted a red ring on the LTE version of the Apple Watch, if it was purely for marketing or if there was regulatory requirements (which I doubt).

To be honest it doesn’t bother me that much, I would take this red ring anytime over the plain red circle on cellular S3
 
Arrogance? I suppose they likely don't have a problem taking money from people who would make uninformed buying decisions to only regret it later. But seeing that this issue only exists for maybe one hour of one day, I don't really think that Apple has this big plan around "arrogance". It seems more like the old saying that a fool and their money are soon departed. I don't think that is arrogance, but maybe they do feel smarter than those people who throw away their money, and therefore have a sense of arrogance.
I wouldn't say it's a "big plan" either.... All I'm saying is, it's a long-standing tradition with Apple to do these new product launches with a whole "pre ordering" system in place, and often with some fanfare and marketing just before it goes live. They've always counted on an initial surge of sales of whatever the latest thing is, including prepping local retail Apple stores to encourage and accommodate long lines of people waiting to buy it on launch day.

But the lack of any info posted less than a day before pre-orders are accepted? That's unprecedented for them, and it sure feels like the company must have decided these products "sell themselves" to the early adopters. Hence, they had more pressing things to do than get details published about what customers will be purchasing with these orders.
 
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On a related topic…. Is it just me who thinks so, but wouldn’t an Apple Watch with straight edges (as was rumored) hurt the back of your hand when doing push ups?

I’m relieved they stuck with the curved edges.
 
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On a related topic…. Is it just me who thinks so, but wouldn’t an Apple Watch with straight edges (as was rumored) hurt the back of your hand when doing push ups?

I’m relieved they stuck with the curved edges.

I don't see why. The only surface area touching your skin qwould be the bottom of the watch. Unless you got monstrously flabby wrists.
 
It is not "well known" that Apple has multiple designs for products. AFAIK that has never been reported by any reputable outlet, ever. You summarily saying so does not make it true. It has also never been reported that Apple switched to a "backup" design before.

The "major redesign" you speak of was, frankly, hideous and never made any practical sense. The upcoming Series 7 includes a redesigned body, new screen, and multiple new parts—not quite what you would expect for a last-minute, slapdash switch. And if Apple had made a last-minute switch, don't you think they would have done so in time to release it on schedule? This isn't the company's first rodeo, after all.

Literally the only piece of "evidence" that Apple changed the Watch design is that three oft-wrong leakers were wrong. That's all. Everything else is extremely circumstantial, at best.
Take it easy. For someone who isn't very aware by your own admission, you're quick to dismiss things you don't understand.
 
Meh. It's being billed as a series 6 with a bigger, brighter screen. I am assuming/guessing that they will be the same price as the S6, more or less, and there's not really any surprises here. It's a very minor refresh year, and a good time for people who either have an older model they want to update from to get all the S6 features and what I am betting will be the new look/size going forward for a few generations, or people who haven't gotten a Watch yet to snap up an S6 on a decent discount and get pretty much the current model with some minor differences.
 
Any ideas what time will pre-order starts? Is it different per country/timezone?
 
I don't get people's issues with Apple not presenting the specs for comparison.

Yes, it's annoying that in this very second you can't figure out if it's worth getting. Having to wait for anything is unheard of on the Internet.

But..

Just pre-order the damn thing, don't open it until the reviews are in, and then return it with no loss when you find out it's still the same AW 6 chip as last year. Or keep it if change your mind.

You haven't lost any of your $399+ until you've actually opened the package, and some countries even allow you to return it after having opened the box and started using the product(do check before tearing that seal!).

It's very simple and not an issue.
 
if they're not showing the detail it's almost certainly because they don't want early criticism on either the specs or the prices...
 
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Any ideas what time will pre-order starts? Is it different per country/timezone?
Pretty sure it’s 5 AM PT. So whatever that translates to for your time zone.

That said, some retailers are bad at time zone math and will release based on Eastern Time while others just launch as part of their standard daily refresh. The regular refresh for Amazon is 2 AM Eastern Time and Best Buy is 1 AM Eastern Time.
 
Meh. It's being billed as a series 6 with a bigger, brighter screen. I am assuming/guessing that they will be the same price as the S6, more or less, and there's not really any surprises here. It's a very minor refresh year, and a good time for people who either have an older model they want to update from to get all the S6 features and what I am betting will be the new look/size going forward for a few generations, or people who haven't gotten a Watch yet to snap up an S6 on a decent discount and get pretty much the current model with some minor differences.
Apple is usually big and bold about the things that have been added to a new product and conversely radio silent about shortcomings and stuff that's the same as last year.

This is typically seen when Apple doesn't mention anything about battery-life for a new iPhone, or uses the overused "all-day battery life" phrase. Then you know it's the same as last year's or maybe even a bit worse(looking at you, iPhones 12).

I think it's safe to assume that there's no new AW 7 chip as Apple would gladly have mentioned that and written about it on the product pages.

A new, bigger, brighter display and even faster (than AW 6) charging are the two substantial upgrades this year to Apple Watch. If it's worth it depends on what you already own. End of story.
 
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