But this is the same for many other people. BUT then they move to another location and the same proceedure results in a lose of signal. So it is my arguement that if you went to that same location you would also lose all signal if you bridged the antennas.
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But this is the same for many other people. BUT then they move to another location and the same proceedure results in a lose of signal. So it is my arguement that if you went to that same location you would also lose all signal if you bridged the antennas.
Sorry if I gave that impression, I would like to see proof.
The point is simple. People are testing their phone in usual locations but they will go to other locations in the future and may have issues.
Right, but I don't have a defected phone so that isn't possible. I've tested this in locations with weak signal as well.
How can it be a hardware issue if it is affected by your location
Wouldnt a changing location that changed the outcome of the experiment dictate that it has to do with AT&T's coverage?
Your experiment and what you want to prove do not correlate, also you sound quite arrogant in a lot of your posts, I know what you want to prove and this is the internet, but try and be a bit more kind to people who do not have the exact same view on an issue as you do
But how can you claim that it is an issue of bridging the antennas, when it may just be a location issue? You can see in my video there is clearly no signal loss when bridging the antennas. How do you know that isn't a location issue?
These Phones work in the 850MHz range which gives you a radio wave of around 13-14 inches.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/freqwavelengthcalc.html
Moving 20 feet can make a world of difference. For example in my House I get about 2 bars downstairs and 4 bars upstairs.
Sorry if I sound arrogant, there is a little frustration.
It is quite simple what we need to see. Two iPhone 4's in the same location, one showing the defect and one not. There are so many people claiming that their phones are defected and just as many saying otherwise so it shouldn't be too difficult.
My phone works great. If you want proof, come over and check it out. If not, continue to make senseless demands.
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It makes no sense for it to be a location issue if the problem only happens when you interact with the device.
If it was a location issue, there would be a problem with the device no matter how it was held.
I think it's a combination of the two. Bridging the antennas cause a loss in signal but if you're in a good signal area then it's not noticed as much or not at all.
I'm happy for you. I take it you won't be updating your software on Monday then?
Think about what you are asking
Somebody who already owns 2 iPhone 4's, thats a small number of people in the first place
Have a third video camera after the 2 iPhones
Be able to know about the problem and be comfortable enough with it to show one with and one without
Thats a pretty small number of people in the first place, then some are just lazy
Also think about this, if nobody can prove this, but some can show they dont have a problem and others show they do, that proves that it is location more or less, granted the people who have the problem dont have it in some places. That means it isnt Apple's fault but AT&T's!
Do you see how many ways this could go, in no way is your test going to finally prove something, its a futile attempt because there are enough videos proving that there is a problem, but there are multiple answers and your test only shows one variable when there are many more
You don't need to own 2 iPhone 4's. Just know someone else that that has an iPhone that differs from yours. According to the polls it's 50/50 (approx) on the defect so it shouldn't be too difficult. I've tested 4 iPhones in the same locaiton and they all have the same defect.
Agreed but I THINK it comes down to the connection type as well. At work I'm on 3G and I lose no bars whilst trying to replicate the problem but at home I'm on edge and I go from 4 bars to nothing in 10 seconds with a natural grip.
I probably have the problem, but I don't care to test it at all. I am right handed, and use a case anyways. Maybe you should have waited and not spent 200-300 dollars on something you had never even touched. Even when people posted about this problem a day or two before the release, it didn't stop everyone from still going in and giving their money to Apple on launch day. I am just sick of hearing about this issue. I realize it is a flaw, but the countless threads on here about it doesn't fix the issue. If you are so upset, go complain to Apple. It doesn't matter if one person has the issue, or if everyone does. You paid for the phone, and if you are not satisfied, then talk to Apple and demand a refund from Apple.
They probably won't give you one. Most people put too much faith in Apple. The people that wait out the launch for a few weeks after are the smart ones. God forbid Apple release a product that has something wrong with it. They are a huge company mass producing these things, they are bound to have a design flaw every once in a while. I may be the only one that is sick of hearing about this, don't complain on an internet forum, go out and try to solve this problem with the people who sold you the phone.
They probably won't give you one. Most people put too much faith in Apple. The people that wait out the launch for a few weeks after are the smart ones. God forbid Apple release a product that has something wrong with it. They are a huge company mass producing these things, they are bound to have a design flaw every once in a while. I may be the only one that is sick of hearing about this, don't complain on an internet forum, go out and try to solve this problem with the people who sold you the phone.
wat?
Prove there is a defect by showing us a iphone 4 in the same picture not having the problem as the one you describe.
Otherwise we have to believe it is some other environmental or user error causing the problem?
See how it cuts both ways?
So you show us the video with one working and one non-working phone since you are the one complaining.
Unless it is your supposition that ALL the phones don't work...
Which if it is, then it is easy to disprove by showing you a phone that does not have the problem, without the need for a second phone.
The only person who needs to show two phones in one video to prove their point is you.
Right handed people hold the phone in their left hand more than left handed people. I have spoke to Apple but I don't want a refund, I want a working iPhone 4 because it would be the best phone on the planet. If you don't like this thread then you know what to do.