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Working iPhone 4? PROVE IT!!
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I don't think this is just an issue with the iPhone. Like Jobs said in his email response:
"In a followup email, Jobs then expanded with this explanation:
Gripping any phone will result in some attenuation of its antenna performance, with certain places being worse than others depending on the placement of the antennas. This is a fact of life for every wireless phone. If you ever experience this on your iPhone 4, avoid gripping it in the lower left corner in a way that covers both sides of the black strip in the metal band, or simply use one of many available cases."
I tried this on my work phone by wrapping my hand around the bottom of the phone I can make the bars drop to nothing right away, but when I let go they return back to full strength.
"In a followup email, Jobs then expanded with this explanation:
Gripping any phone will result in some attenuation of its antenna performance, with certain places being worse than others depending on the placement of the antennas. This is a fact of life for every wireless phone. If you ever experience this on your iPhone 4, avoid gripping it in the lower left corner in a way that covers both sides of the black strip in the metal band, or simply use one of many available cases."
I tried this on my work phone by wrapping my hand around the bottom of the phone I can make the bars drop to nothing right away, but when I let go they return back to full strength.
That's a fair point mate but doesn't really help here. People are holding the iPhone naturally and dropping signal. You don't have to go out of your way to replicate it if you're in a bad reception area.
I can make the bars drop by holding the left side of my 3GS. I've had it for a while and have never noticed until now. It's never caused me to drop a call or lose my data connection.
Does the issue seem to be on all 3GS phones as well?
Does the issue seem to be on all 3GS phones as well?
No, you don't get it kiddo. If its working, its working. If its not, then you have an issue.
Its working. Whats the problem?
Double up on your meds there.
People who don't care whether this problem affects all phones or just some of them should just ignore this thread. The OP has a very good point that we should find out if:
1) all the phones are the same and differences in people make the failure occur.
Or
2) there are actually some phones that have a special defect that other phones don't.
If your phone works for you, then don't come in here and complain that some people are trying to figure what is gong on. Enjoy your phone and mind your own business.
1) all the phones are the same and differences in people make the failure occur.
Or
2) there are actually some phones that have a special defect that other phones don't.
If your phone works for you, then don't come in here and complain that some people are trying to figure what is gong on. Enjoy your phone and mind your own business.
The issue isn't about losing bars so much as it is about losing reception (different) as well as data transmission. I have an old Nokia 6010 that I can wrap my hands around entirely and it won't lose a single bar. Different phone makers calibrate the bars differently. Having said that though, it has been proven in several videos and elsewhere that touching the lower left seam of the iPhone 4 can cease reception AND data transmission ENTIRELY.
This person put their phone next to a speaker and you can SEE & HEAR the transmission ceasing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzn8QhrYIvI
The OP's test is a valid one and I agree that every phone probably does suffer from the issue.
Can you do this with your other phones?
a paperclip can replicate the issue so it's not just a matter of body tissue attenuation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgouzUMlQpY
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So your saying everyone on here has a phone with a problem. But thy dont knowit. Trust me if every owner of iPhone. had a problem it would be bigger new than it already is. I still think it's software cause mine works great.
Not sure why there is so much animosity toward the author of the thread. It's a completely reasonable request. My phone works and I am unable to replicate the antenna issue. When my friend gets back in town I'll have him try here. He's experiencing the defect.
If he's unable to produce the problem here, its obvious that strong signal strength is masking the problem. AT&T used to have a field testing mode that you dial in to get to, although I can't do it for iOS 4.0. Anyone know what the number is? It showed actual signal strength versus the graphical representation.
If he's unable to produce the problem here, its obvious that strong signal strength is masking the problem. AT&T used to have a field testing mode that you dial in to get to, although I can't do it for iOS 4.0. Anyone know what the number is? It showed actual signal strength versus the graphical representation.
No, he's saying every iPhone has the same potential for the defect, and that other factors make it more or less likely to come out. These factors include the particular signal strength in your location.
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I shake my head over these people who claim their phones aren't affected simply because they bridge the antennas on their phone and it doesn't drop. Are they really so dumb that they don't get what everyone's saying???
In case you're SLOW let me restate this very succinctly. In any given location (and some claim with different people due to moisture content, etc.) you may not see the symptom AT ALL. However, in locations where signal strength isn't as great, bridging the antennas will cause enough signal loss to cause the bars to drop. So, the key is to have the same person, in the same location bridge the antennas of two phones with one exhibiting the problem and the other not.
It's a valid request. I really hope people who simply say "mine isn't affected because I just touched the corner and my phone is fine" realize just how incredibly stupid they look.
In case you're SLOW let me restate this very succinctly. In any given location (and some claim with different people due to moisture content, etc.) you may not see the symptom AT ALL. However, in locations where signal strength isn't as great, bridging the antennas will cause enough signal loss to cause the bars to drop. So, the key is to have the same person, in the same location bridge the antennas of two phones with one exhibiting the problem and the other not.
It's a valid request. I really hope people who simply say "mine isn't affected because I just touched the corner and my phone is fine" realize just how incredibly stupid they look.
I'm ending my efforts here. Please let me know the results of your test when your friends get back in town. A PM will be really appreciated.
Definitely looking forward to seeing your results! This is exactly what many of us are wanting to see! I think many will have their perceptions of the problem change regardless of how this one turns out.
I still think it's only some phones. If it was all then apple would have a big big problem. I tried in many diff places in nj and it works everytime. Minus the usual slow 3G but that's just AT&T cause it will happen with my phone on the table.
Don't need too or can't?
Why don't YOU prove it? You posted earlier that it should be easy to find someone who doesn't have this issue. So go find them and compare it to your "broken" phone and test the damn things yourself. Why are you trying to put this burden on everyone else?