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Working iPhone 4? PROVE IT!!
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Well, that is the correct experiment, with the results that the OP expected. The thing is that this experiment can only prove that a completely working phone does exist (well, more or less prove). This would occur if the same person was able to show a working phone and a nonworking phone in the exact same location. Both phones doing the same thing suggests that the OP is correct, but can't actually prove anything about the existence of a phone without this problem. Or to put it another way, we can only really prove the existence of a working phone, not it's nonexistence.
Well, that would still potentially mean that everyone has the problem. This thread isn't really about figuring out whether it is hardware or software. Of course if it is software, everyone can just upgrade without thinking twice. However if it turns out to require a repair or replacement, it would be nice for people to know whether they need to go through the trouble.
Well, that would still potentially mean that everyone has the problem. This thread isn't really about figuring out whether it is hardware or software. Of course if it is software, everyone can just upgrade without thinking twice. However if it turns out to require a repair or replacement, it would be nice for people to know whether they need to go through the trouble.
Look it's this simple: get one phone that is seemingly unaffected by the reception issue and get one that is affected. Put the two together. If they both exhibit the same behavior, one could conclude that the location of the phones is at a least a factor in this mess.
Just as I suspected. People believe what they want to believe.
Wow that is a pot calling the kettle black statement. You want to believe each iPhone 4 has a defect. So far I don't know a single person with a defective phone and about 12 of my friends have them.
It's a software issue. Prove me wrong by showing both iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS with iOS 4.0 side by side, one showing the defect and one not.
It's a software issue. Prove me wrong by showing both iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS with iOS 4.0 side by side, one showing the defect and one not.
makes no sense
It's a software issue. Prove me wrong by showing both iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS with iOS 4.0 side by side, one showing the defect and one not.
The correct experiment for that would be to show two 3GS's side by side, one with 3.whatever and one with 4.0.
Not really.
The issue is more about the iPhone 4, when you do something very specific to the phone's antenna something happens.
You can replicate a similar issue on the 3G/3GS (or other types of phone for that matter), but none of them can be identical because they don't use an external antenna design.
Well, you're right that it wouldn't prove anything about the iPhone 4. But if the claim is that software is the problem, the correct way to test it is to keep everything else constant (including the phone model) and just vary the software. Of course this isn't possible on the iPhone 4, so there isn't a particularly good way that I can think of to test if it is the software on that device.
Just want to say that the OP is practically a hero in this thread. He's made a perfectly sensible and well reasoned suggestion (that is probably accurate) and has got pages and pages of abuse as a result.
I don't understand why everyone is so resistant to finding out whether this issue affects all phone or not. And the ONLY way to begin to disprove this is to have 2 phones next to each other, one with the issue and one without.
I don't understand why everyone is so resistant to finding out whether this issue affects all phone or not. And the ONLY way to begin to disprove this is to have 2 phones next to each other, one with the issue and one without.
not singling anyone out but there are a lot of "not so bright" posters in this thread. Read the first post. the OP is entirely correct. I checked my girlfriends iPhone 4 before I left the store on thursday. No Issue. When I got it home I tried it a few more times and it started to show it. Have been in other areas with full signal....no issue. it is EVERY phone but entirely based on location. Bravo OP.
I'm making myself late for work because of this!
I have had no issues with my iPhone 4. Love it. Sorry that there are others out there having problems.
I don't understand why the OP wants everyone to have this problem?
I have supplied 3 pics, taken a minute apart between which I was holding the phone, covering the black lines. I DID NOT LOSE ANY SIGNAL.
Something tells me though that the OP won't accept this as proof of a working iPhone 4.
I have had no issues with my iPhone 4. Love it. Sorry that there are others out there having problems.
I don't understand why the OP wants everyone to have this problem?
I have supplied 3 pics, taken a minute apart between which I was holding the phone, covering the black lines. I DID NOT LOSE ANY SIGNAL.
Something tells me though that the OP won't accept this as proof of a working iPhone 4.
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Wanted 2 iPhones side by side.
Unfortunately I am not rich enough nor do I need 2 iPhones. Just the one. And I wanted to show that my singular iPhone has no issues. None since I got it.
However, this evidence/circumstance is clearly not good enough to prove that not every iPhone is faulty.
I have supplied proof that my phone does not suffer from this issue. And it does not occur in any location I have been to either. However, this is not good enough as evidence. God I love the internets.
For this to work you either need to go to every location on the planet or find someone who can demonstrate the defect and test in the same location. As it stands you have been lucky with the locations that you have tested.
We've seen plenty of working iphones. What we have not seen is one working iphone and one non-working iphone side by side.
We haven't seen this because all the iPhones are faulty, but strong signal strength is masking it for some people. So all iphones will either work in one location or not work in one location.
Don't like that claim? Disprove it. With two iphones. On video.
That's the whole point of this thread!
Did the test (2 iPhone 4's, same location, same hand, same time). Video is still processing so the quality isn't the best, but you should be able to see and hear what you need to hear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXxu-J-_FT4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXxu-J-_FT4
Jeez. Learn to READ. This doesnt prove anything.
The OP is requesting an experiment that would eliminate location as a factor in this issue. Or not.
An entirely reasonable request, which people with a basic ability to read seem to understand. Showing that your iPhone works in your particular location is completely irrelevant. You're wasting your time. Chances are if someone took their 'defective' iPhone to your house, they would also not experience any loss in signal.