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how are you getting Spotify for $18 a year? And Prime?
Yes, it is bit cheaper here where the songs are mostly from domestic sources. Prime has been trying to increase its bundled subscription from ₹ 1000 to ₹ 1500 ($18) if they increase further people will jump out of the Prime. Even Spotify trying to increase its premium similar to Amazon Prime. I used to have Apple Music subscription very very long back but stopped it when I sold my iPhones and was in the Android world for sometime before coming back to iOS.
 
The point is: if you make the customer pay for AI while competitors offer it for free (and better), it’s a losing game from the start.
Samsung will also require users to pay for some features. Google already offers some tiers of Gemini, only one is free. What are you talking about then?
 
How long will the competition's offerings remain free? Samsung states something about 24 or 36 months free with its smartphones, if I'm not mistaken!

If someone starts with 2.99 to 4.99 per month,
then the rest will follow.
And I'm sure: Google and Samsung would offer something like this in tandem. (Of course they would keep a free light version)

But I think to myself: what's the point?
Apple who have forced the whole subscription madness in their App Store…
Prices from every streaming provider are getting more expensive from year to year.

And now another subscription? No thanks.
I'd rather spend less time on my smartphone and do a digital detox.
I think Google will keep it free, their entire business model is built on that ethos. They have to stay ahead on AI to keep that market share.

I know Google gets some hate on this sub, but they really do deserve some praise for what they done in regards to not charging for what are normally excellent software services, especially in what they provide educational settings for free
 
Only if Apple Intelligence will sync iCloud Mail notification badges between iOS and macOS.
You refer to a bug in every thread even not connected with the bug in any way. I saw your comment >10 times (seems like much more). It is solved in iOS18 and you know it. Question is then, why do you do this?
 
Samsung will also require users to pay for some features. Google already offers some tiers of Gemini, only one is free. What are you talking about then?
Kind of AI features they offer in S24 Ultra may not entice everyone to pay subscription unless it is pittance. At least, Samsung has shown something to the real world before asking for subscription whether it might work or now, unlike Apple is expecting exorbitant numbers with lots of doubts about launch and its capabilities. Unless it can help professionals in getting their job done with minimum effort using the device, it will be foolish to pay $20 every month. Even if one has money, he/she needs to test its worth for few months before accepting $20 a month subscription.
 
I‘d pay a subscription fee to opt out of AI features.
AI has helped me tremendously over the past 2 years. I might save a total of 5-10 days of work per year.
I can totally see why some even say humanity's entering in a new era of productivity and knowledge.

I see a lot of comments similar to yours, but genuinely don't understand them.
Care to elaborate on why you hate AI so much ?
 
Because those features either won't be available on iOS devices or won't be integrated with them on a system level, and I don't see myself switching away anytime soon.
I think they will - the EU etc. will make sure Apple don't have a monopoly on AI services for the iPhone
 
Absolutely I'll pay for a subscription. Nothing is "free" when it comes to privacy. That is what I'm paying for, plus the integration. I see massive value in their integration of simple, effective, AI tools incorporated into the OS. Simple is genius, genius is what Apple does (generally, and thus why the bad is really bad, lol). This is truly groundbreaking.
 
Nothing they've announced or shown so far is worth a subscription, to me at least, but then again most AI stuff currently out there would fall into that category. It would have to be something that truly made my life or my experience on my computer/phone/tablet easier, better and more productive to be worth anywhere near a $20/mo subscription and even then it would probably have to come with a decent amount of included iCloud storage to boot.
 
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I don't know about Samsung but you "pay" Google/Amazon with your personal information and their services are all designed to be loss-leaders for their online advertising and/or online shopping business. Apple's pitch for a subscription would have to be "ad free, totally private, impartial and designed for the benefit of users rather than advertisers"... and they'd have to follow through with that.

I can't see myself wanting such a service - but I'd also rather not have to pay for a "free" service indirectly via. hardware costs. The acid test would be "save me more than $20/month worth of time".

Subscriptions are not a bad idea per se - when the nature of the service is that it genuinely requires central servers and continuous updates. Many "AI assistant" tools would fall firmly into that category. The problems come when a product is unnecessarily made dependent on a web service (with or without subscription) and/or updates are lacklustre due to lack of competition/lock-in or only needed because of buggy, (fr)agile code that breaks with every OS update...
I don't buy into this "pay" Google with your personal information, just sounds like Apple Propaganda to me. I'm a normal, law abiding citizen so LOADS of companies have my data, my work, insurance companies, utilities, Microsoft, Netflix, some social media. Are Google REALLY doing anything more damaging or ruining my personal privacy in some extreme way? No.

And besides, Apple's record on privacy isn't exactly squeaky clean is it?

Subscriptions are bad when when you can get it elsewhere for free.
 
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Of course, Apple will eventually charge for it. The subscription revenue game plan is in full force.
 
- Netflix: introduces intentions to cut on password sharing and up the subscription fee.
- Everybody: NO WAY I’M PAYING, CANCELLING TOMORROW
- Netflix in a year: Our revenue grew $5 billion, 2 million new users

- Apple: introduces intentions to charge for AI
- Everybody: NO WAY I’M PAYING FOR THIS
- Apple in a year: <same story>
 
Nope. I think it’s wishful thinking on the part of sell side analysts that Apple will be able to monetize AI.
 
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The amount of money Apple spent on servers is misleading. They’ve servers for iCloud, Apple TV and other services. If apples AI will be mindblowing and with head and shoulders above what the rest is offering, I might consider paying a fee. But those subscriptions ad up quickly.

One of the excuses I’ve heard why apples hardware offerings are that expensive was that it comes with a lot of services others weren’t offering.

Let me see a chart of how much Apple is investing in servers only for AI and I’ll think about it.

For now, this is an exhorbitant fee ($ 20 à month). In three years time it’s the cost of a new iPhone and these aren’t exactly cheap considering what the competition has to offer.
 
I might pay another $10-20/month on my family Apple One subscription if it included a seriously good, search engine, or a suitable AI chat substitute that wasn't littered with junk.
 
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