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Would you trade your iPhone for an Android?
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The bloatware and sluggish performance would have come from
the manufacturer, not android itself. I had a nexus 5 alongside my 5s for work, and that was just as fast, if not faster than the iPhone, due to bring stock android OS.
Posts like this only expose ones ignorance.
a) Bloatware is not on each Android device.
b) Lag/sluggish performance is generally hardware related... there are several Android devices that don't lag. iOS 7 is quite sluggish at the moment, although I'm hoping that will be fixed right up.
c) Camera... sigh. The iPhone does not have the best camera, currently. A Windows phone, the Lumia 1020, is said to have the best right now. The Sony Xperia Z1 has an amazing camera as well. To say the camera will "never be as good as the iphone" makes no sense, whatsoever, as you're referring to a platform, not hardware... and it isn't currently even true.
All this technology changes so quickly. Who knows what will be on the market in 5 or 10 years. At some point, it is likely that alternatives will be better in many ways.
To say that one will "never switch to X" or "never buy anything except from X" simply shows closed-minded thinking.
As for me, I'd switch when there's a device that gives me reason to. I'm curious about a few upcoming devices, so who knows? If Apple doesn't make iOS 7 less sluggish from the long touch response voids after each animation, then I will most likely switch.
After I gave away my iPhone 4, I bought a Nexus phone. It was a step down to usability for me. And I bought the 5.
I still have the Nexus, unsupported for new OS updates after just 16 months. Occasionally swap my SIM into it and use it for a couple days.
If I ever go overseas, it is my unlocked phone to use if I get a local SIM.
True but FaceTime only works for people with iPhones. I still have a few contacts using Android devices. The Wifi calling feature actually replaces your cellular signal with WiFi
I can do wifi calling on my iPhone via an app designed by my carrier. You can send texts and make calls on various devices with the app installed. I have it installed on my iPod touch and iPad.
No, I have just bought an ip5S after trying a galaxyS4 and Nexus5 becuase I was bored of ios after selling my black ip5.
I have decided to stick with apple for the future. The only company to pull me away from apple now will be Microsoft if they do their OS, phone , surface and xbox one properly.
I have decided to stick with apple for the future. The only company to pull me away from apple now will be Microsoft if they do their OS, phone , surface and xbox one properly.
I haven't found a single Android phone that I find compelling. I do like the physical form of the HTC ONE, but I find it too large and despise the UI.
I don't want to have to put a ton of work into modding my device just to make it something I'd want to look at. I know its possible, and not all that hard, but theres a reason I don't bother with jailbreaking my iOS devices anymore as well, I've got better things to do and everything works great already.
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The next windows, "Threshold" will be their first stab at really unifying their products under one OS. Should be interesting.
I don't want to have to put a ton of work into modding my device just to make it something I'd want to look at. I know its possible, and not all that hard, but theres a reason I don't bother with jailbreaking my iOS devices anymore as well, I've got better things to do and everything works great already.
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The next windows, "Threshold" will be their first stab at really unifying their products under one OS. Should be interesting.
Have you actually tried lumia 1520's camera? Okay its 41 megapixel, but it'll need around 15 secs to get it loads and shoots the object. I dont know about you but i absolutely prefer the overall camera performance not just the image quality alone.
Androids, or windows phones' apps are just basically stretch up version of the ios' version. Not any of them are actually better in anyway. Just laying out facts.
Closed minded thinking? I dont think so. I am smart in choosing my mobile thanks.
The moto G seems great for the price it is. But I don't think I will ever actually use an android phone. The whole system gives me a headache within one minute of usage, and the hardware of most android phones isn't any better.
I would never do that. I used several Androids before I bought an iPhone. Build quality is far superior, and usability is outstanding. iOS 7 is definitely a step backwards though, that's why I'm still using iOS 6, the Steve Jobs OS.
I would NOT trade an old iPhone 4 for any new high end Android phone if I had to keep and use it.
I would NOT trade an old iPhone 4 for any new high end Android phone if I had to keep and use it.
15 seconds is quite the exaggeration... In any case, it takes better photos, so you'll have to deal with that sentiment.
If you think all the Android/WP camera apps are just "stretch up" (???) versions of the iOS one, does that apply to all the camera Apps in the App Store? You can make actual changes to the camera, such as ISO, in some other devices... The native iOS camera app is as simple as it gets.
How is it not close-minded to rule out an entire operating system for all of future simply because you don't like it now? Doesn't even sound like you're familiar with it currently, as you think the iPhone camera is better than Android camera (whichever one you may be referring to...)
This is such a true sentiment. I use to swear I'd never use anything Apple. Then I realized I was limiting my abilities to enjoy technology. I was putting prohibitions and restrictions on things that didn't benefit me. So I opened up and got my first iPhone.
Jailbroken and all, I'm happy I decided to get my head out of my butt so to speak.
I have had iOS devices since the iPod touch 2g. About 1.5 months ago I got my 5c-now I think I knew I wanted an iPhone as it wasn't the first I had but I thought the HTC One looked nice and seemed pretty solid overall- so if I had to get an android phone it would be the HTC zone but I'd rather stick with my iPhone.
I won't touch Google Android or Samsung until Google and Samsung admit they stole them from Apple like Steve Jobs said before. 
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I'm a HUGE Apple fan.
I've basically owned every desktop Mac from there has been from an LC475 to my current Mac Pro.
I've owned every laptop since the Titanium G4 and my wife and I every iPhone from the classic to the iPhone 5, so (as you can probably guess), I'm heavily invested in the Apple eco system and also have an Apple TV and an iPad4.
If you are looking at Apple's 'target market' then I'm it!
BUT...
I have changed my phone to a Galaxy Note 3.
This decision wasn't taken lightly, but I lay the blame for this squarely at Apple's feet...let me explain...
I was one of the people who thought Apple's choice of dimensions for the iPhone 5 was strange - I think it should have been made even larger.
I owned a 64GB iPhone 4s and when the 5 came out and (despite the weird screen size) I got one for the wife.
This may sound weird but it felt like a girls phone to me.
They had made it slim and light and because it was longer it felt narrower too (even though it wasn't).
The black model's revealed scratches so easily that some had them brand new out the box, so for me white was the only viable model if you wanted an iPhone 5 and it felt...well...too girlie!
My wife loved it though, and it had a bigger screen than her old 4s so she was a very happy bunny, but I decided to stick with my manly (heavier) 64GB 4s and wait for the next model before upgrading.
Patiently then I waited for the iPhone 5s. My 64GB 4s was always full, so I was hoping Apple would release a 128GB model - after all you can get 128GB iPod touch right?
Also there was to be a new OS called IOS7 which would make the phone feel new and sleek - great!
So Apple announce the 5s with almost exactly the same spec as the 5 and (unbelievably), exactly the same storage options as my two year old iPhone 4s - very disappointed.
The final nail in the coffin though was IOS7.
On my iPhone 4s it was just walls of white and an assault on the eyes.
On the iPhone 5 & 5s it may have translucency to soften things, but on the 4s it was just a slab of white, so it was just too bright.
They changed to a very thin font and made the UI garish and difficult to read (even on my wife's iPhone 5) and the real killer was...you guessed it...no way to go back to IOS6!!!
Thanks Apple!
I don't want to fight to use my phone, but going from IOS6 to 7 that's what it had become.
All the buttons...GONE!
Calendar...List view...GONE!
(it's actually there, but hidden and awkward to get to and you can't add anything in it).
The UI that'd i'd used for years suddenly became difficult to navigate and (for me at least) difficult to read too.
Everything had lost contrast. Thin black writing on bright light grey backgrounds.
The Keypad for the phone was MUCH better and easier to read in IOS6.
Same goes for the keyboard for text messages too.
I just wanted a phone with more storage and that I could easily read again.
So I after a bit of deliberation I went for the Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
32GB internal storage plus 64GB on an SD card gives me 96GB in total.
The screen is HUGE, so for reading texts, emails and browsing the web it is brilliant.
The real plus though (and one I haven't seen mentioned anywhere) is how it interfaces with my TV.
If you have a modern Samsung TV with wireless capabilities, you can use the phone to show Photo's and video's (a bit like an iPhone with an Apple TV), except there is nothing else required...it even automatically switches the TV input over and then back again when you finished...GREAT!
It genuinely is just a click to do it.
AND...
The TV will stream to your phone too - brilliant for watching the footy in bed!
So I'm really liking the Note 3 and my wife liked it so much, she now has a Note 3 too.
There are things that I miss from the iPhone.
Notifications are better on the iPhone IMO and Mail is a better email client than anything on Android.
K9 (my email app on Android) is still good though, so it's not a deal breaker.
The iPhone camera is MUCH better than the Note 3's too and because it's smaller, the iPhone is a much easier handset to use as a camera too.
According to a recent article on Mac Rumors Apple are addressing some of the UI problems in an upcoming update to IOS7 and the iPhone 6 will have a bigger form factor which should make it easier to read.
If true, then my next phone will probably be another iPhone, but I have to say that the Note 3 is a VERY good phone and I also like being able to handwrite notes on it (very handy) and Android isn't nearly as bad now as it was when I briefly tried it in 2010.
Overall I think Android isn't nearly as 'clunky' as some people infer.
IOS6 remains the best OS ever produced for a phone IMO, IOS7 offered some improvements, but from a UI point of view was a disaster.
Mostly change for changes sake and most of the changes were bad, resulting in making a nice easy to use OS more difficult to read and navigate.
I didn't want to go Apple pushed me!!!
Since I purchased my Note 3, my wife has purchased one too and next month my sister will be getting an Android handset as well - all because they find IOS7 difficult to read (We're in our mid 40's).
Apple need to address these issues quickly as if they can lose a huge fan like me, they'll lose many others too.
To summarise...
Make IOS7 easier to read. Bring some of the friendliness found in IOS6 back, add more storage to the flagship model and make the screen bigger.
If they do that Apple will probably get me back - don't and they won't!
For anyone else who is unhappy with IOS7 for the same reason, I'd say now would be the time to try an Android phone and the Note 3 would be a good model to look at.
I'm a HUGE Apple fan.
I've basically owned every desktop Mac from there has been from an LC475 to my current Mac Pro.
I've owned every laptop since the Titanium G4 and my wife and I every iPhone from the classic to the iPhone 5, so (as you can probably guess), I'm heavily invested in the Apple eco system and also have an Apple TV and an iPad4.
If you are looking at Apple's 'target market' then I'm it!
BUT...
I have changed my phone to a Galaxy Note 3.
This decision wasn't taken lightly, but I lay the blame for this squarely at Apple's feet...let me explain...
I was one of the people who thought Apple's choice of dimensions for the iPhone 5 was strange - I think it should have been made even larger.
I owned a 64GB iPhone 4s and when the 5 came out and (despite the weird screen size) I got one for the wife.
This may sound weird but it felt like a girls phone to me.
They had made it slim and light and because it was longer it felt narrower too (even though it wasn't).
The black model's revealed scratches so easily that some had them brand new out the box, so for me white was the only viable model if you wanted an iPhone 5 and it felt...well...too girlie!
My wife loved it though, and it had a bigger screen than her old 4s so she was a very happy bunny, but I decided to stick with my manly (heavier) 64GB 4s and wait for the next model before upgrading.
Patiently then I waited for the iPhone 5s. My 64GB 4s was always full, so I was hoping Apple would release a 128GB model - after all you can get 128GB iPod touch right?
Also there was to be a new OS called IOS7 which would make the phone feel new and sleek - great!
So Apple announce the 5s with almost exactly the same spec as the 5 and (unbelievably), exactly the same storage options as my two year old iPhone 4s - very disappointed.
The final nail in the coffin though was IOS7.
On my iPhone 4s it was just walls of white and an assault on the eyes.
On the iPhone 5 & 5s it may have translucency to soften things, but on the 4s it was just a slab of white, so it was just too bright.
They changed to a very thin font and made the UI garish and difficult to read (even on my wife's iPhone 5) and the real killer was...you guessed it...no way to go back to IOS6!!!
Thanks Apple!
I don't want to fight to use my phone, but going from IOS6 to 7 that's what it had become.
All the buttons...GONE!
Calendar...List view...GONE!
(it's actually there, but hidden and awkward to get to and you can't add anything in it).
The UI that'd i'd used for years suddenly became difficult to navigate and (for me at least) difficult to read too.
Everything had lost contrast. Thin black writing on bright light grey backgrounds.
The Keypad for the phone was MUCH better and easier to read in IOS6.
Same goes for the keyboard for text messages too.
I just wanted a phone with more storage and that I could easily read again.
So I after a bit of deliberation I went for the Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
32GB internal storage plus 64GB on an SD card gives me 96GB in total.
The screen is HUGE, so for reading texts, emails and browsing the web it is brilliant.
The real plus though (and one I haven't seen mentioned anywhere) is how it interfaces with my TV.
If you have a modern Samsung TV with wireless capabilities, you can use the phone to show Photo's and video's (a bit like an iPhone with an Apple TV), except there is nothing else required...it even automatically switches the TV input over and then back again when you finished...GREAT!
It genuinely is just a click to do it.
AND...
The TV will stream to your phone too - brilliant for watching the footy in bed!
So I'm really liking the Note 3 and my wife liked it so much, she now has a Note 3 too.
There are things that I miss from the iPhone.
Notifications are better on the iPhone IMO and Mail is a better email client than anything on Android.
K9 (my email app on Android) is still good though, so it's not a deal breaker.
The iPhone camera is MUCH better than the Note 3's too and because it's smaller, the iPhone is a much easier handset to use as a camera too.
According to a recent article on Mac Rumors Apple are addressing some of the UI problems in an upcoming update to IOS7 and the iPhone 6 will have a bigger form factor which should make it easier to read.
If true, then my next phone will probably be another iPhone, but I have to say that the Note 3 is a VERY good phone and I also like being able to handwrite notes on it (very handy) and Android isn't nearly as bad now as it was when I briefly tried it in 2010.
Overall I think Android isn't nearly as 'clunky' as some people infer.
IOS6 remains the best OS ever produced for a phone IMO, IOS7 offered some improvements, but from a UI point of view was a disaster.
Mostly change for changes sake and most of the changes were bad, resulting in making a nice easy to use OS more difficult to read and navigate.
I didn't want to go Apple pushed me!!!
Since I purchased my Note 3, my wife has purchased one too and next month my sister will be getting an Android handset as well - all because they find IOS7 difficult to read (We're in our mid 40's).
Apple need to address these issues quickly as if they can lose a huge fan like me, they'll lose many others too.
To summarise...
Make IOS7 easier to read. Bring some of the friendliness found in IOS6 back, add more storage to the flagship model and make the screen bigger.
If they do that Apple will probably get me back - don't and they won't!
For anyone else who is unhappy with IOS7 for the same reason, I'd say now would be the time to try an Android phone and the Note 3 would be a good model to look at.
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I disagree
There's a reason why Apple puts so much detail and work into their device's experience. First impressions are everything. You are right in saying that all Androids aren't plagued with those problems. But as a consumer can you blame someone for wanting something that works the first time without having to jump through loops? Not really.
It's still ignorant to state that you'd absolutely never switch to another platform in the future. You don't know what will happen in a few years. It's also ignorant to say something "iPhone camera is better than android camera"... Which is both untrue and ignorant, because one is hardware and the other is a software platform.
As for your post, I understand that much of Apple's appeal has been their standards for quality and their device simplicity. But those are subject to change... We've already seen it slip with iOS 7. I'm hoping they'll fix it, but it just shows that things can change.
Things change. For example, VW used to make premium small cars here in NA. They developed a fan base that swears they won't buy anything else. Now, those people buy the new Jetta with a 21 year old 2.0 with only 8 valves... Currently the most basic engine of any passenger car on the market. But those people still act elite and go on about German engineering. They cost cut so much, everything that made them good is gone (for some of their cars). Most VW fanboys don't even realize the minivan is just a rebadged Chrysler that uses the old engines.
My point in all this is to avoid saying you'll never switch to something... You're only limiting yourself. Things change so much so quickly.
