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If we err, we err. We have already erred re WoodNUFC, who was a citizen. Let us not make the same mistake over someone whose continued participation may well be of benefit to the wider community.....

*yawn* Holy buckets I wake up to this mess!

We only know WoodNUFC was a human, not that he was a citizen. Is there something you know?
 
twietee,
consider that as an outed special you painted a big target on your back for the night activities, so please evaluate carefully whether it is worth to divulge your role and any of the information you might have gathered.
i am not saying you should or shouldn't, that's up to you but think about it.

also, a 'procedural' note on voting and spelling:
if a vote is clearly indicating a player and is bolded, it has traditionally considered a valid vote, even if misspelled. (case in point, twietee just voted for "Jav6456" instead of Jav 6454)
in addition, a bolded vote counts, even if it is in jest.
So, in my opinion, both jav's and chris's votes for 'crhmjenkins" should count.

Koodauw - 4 (Moyank, Pluto, Tomorrow, SilentPanda)
jav6454 - 4 (DP, scepticalscribe, QoS, twietee)
moyank - 2 (rick, Koodauw)
chrmjenkins - 2 (jav6454, chrmjenkins)
twietee - 1 (Sythas)

to a) see my post above

b) chrmjenkins stated that his bolded vote for himself (where I would agree with your general understanding DP) wasn't meant to count and his vote for Rick would be still active. I think as long as this remains the exception I'm ok with that.

So what about Koodauw's post? He bolded two names, which one is to count? The last? None? Theoretical questions, but with deadlines and majority locks I think it's better to be clear.
 
also, a 'procedural' note on voting and spelling:
if a vote is clearly indicating a player and is bolded, it has traditionally considered a valid vote, even if misspelled. (case in point, twietee just voted for "Jav6456" instead of Jav 6454)
in addition, a bolded vote counts, even if it is in jest.
So, in my opinion, both jav's and chris's votes for 'crhmjenkins" should count

I agree. Otherwise people can start putting fake votes out there and go "No way! I voted for Si|entPanda not SilentPanda... hahahaha". People are going to spell names improperly on accident just like I'll probably use pronouns incorrectly on accident. It causes an unneeded headache in the thread. Also be clear with your bolding and don't do two plus names in a post. As many games as have been played this shouldn't even be a discussion.
 
twietee,
consider that as an outed special you painted a big target on your back for the night activities,

Ok, since we don't play with infections I guess the wolves indeed have to decide who they'd like to go after. I'm dat badass Helo-Hunter. come and get me




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to a) see my post above

b) chrmjenkins stated that his bolded vote for himself (where I would agree with your general understanding DP) wasn't meant to count and his vote for Rick would be still active. I think as long as this remains the exception I'm ok with that.

So what about Koodauw's post? He bolded two names, which one is to count? The last? None? Theoretical questions, but with deadlines and majority locks I think it's better to be clear.

both count, but the last vote overrides the previous ones, like with two separate posts.
had koodauw pulled the same stunt at 6 votes, he would have locked himself into majority

as far as 'jest' votes, if it is bolded, it counts, even if within a sentence that states it doesn't. this has been established from very early on, to avoid headaches and discussions.
 
as far as 'jest' votes, if it is bolded, it counts, even if within a sentence that states it doesn't. this has been established from very early on, to avoid headaches and discussions.

ya, well that's true of course.

what do you say about my list? No love for my list...:(



copy/paste my tally

Koodauw - 4 (Moyank, Pluto, Tomorrow, SilentPanda)
jav6456 - 4 (DP, scepticalscribe, QoS, twietee)
moyank - 2 (rick, Koodauw)
rick - 1 (chrmjenkins)
chrmjenkins - 1 (jav6546)
twietee - 1 (Sythas)
 
*yawn* Holy buckets I wake up to this mess!

We only know WoodNUFC was a human, not that he was a citizen. Is there something you know?

Ah, no, it seems that I conflated 'human' with 'citizen'.

No, I am at least as adrift as some others, and probably more adrift that most.

Twietee, that post where you......set out in some detail...votes cast was one of the most difficult things I have tried to read on this thread. I cannot make head nor tail of it; it is completely incomprehensible, but each to his own.

Never mind, there is DP's excellent (colour coded, I'm impressed) linky table, and my own clearly annotated copper-plate hand-written notes - in fountain pen (although I am rapidly running out of space to record vote changes on page 2 - damn)......and checking now, I see I can't make head nor tail of my own notes, as there are so many crossing outs, erroneous votes logged as valid ones, etc.

However, re errors, especially deliberately bolded voting errors, irrespective of whether deliberate or otherwise, my (tired) eyes simply do not see them on a screen. In my real life job, I track down dodgy votes and observe elections; here, I have neither the time nor energy to do so.
 
Ok, since we don't play with infections I guess the wolves indeed have to decide who they'd like to go after. I'm dat badass Helo-Hunter. come and get me

ideally you'd want to go after #12, but since we don't know who that is, you have to decide who is most likely to be a baddie

i am of the opinion that the insta-kill should be always used, even at random, rather than lost when in doubt, but i know from past games that others do not subscribe to that view.
The reasoning is that the insta-kill is a bit like a lynching, you kill without being sure, but you still do it because that's how humans kill baddies, while wolves/cylons know who they are killing.
besides, using the power would prove everyone that you are indeed who you claim

that said, if starbuck can protect you tonight you have another day to live and, possibly, to use the shot in a more informed way.

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also, if I read the rules correctly, Helo can only shoot during the "day", so if you want to go for it, you have 10 minutes, otherwise we have to hope you survive the night
 
ideally you'd want to go after #12, but since we don't know who that is, you have to decide who is most likely to be a baddie

that said, if starbuck can protect you tonight you have another day to live and, possibly, to use the shot in a more informed way.

that's the idea. clear myself as much as possible so Starbuck can be quite sure I'm not an imposter without loosing my Insta-kill. To use it so near to the deadline could end in some disaster..lol, also I have not the slightest idea. Tomorrow would have been the one I guess...:D

Anyone else agrees with DP? hurry if so.
 
that's the idea. clear myself as much as possible so Starbuck can be quite sure I'm not an imposter without loosing my Insta-kill. To use it so near to the deadline could end in some disaster..lol, also I have not the slightest idea. Tomorrow would have been the one I guess...:D

Anyone else agrees with DP? hurry if so.

how ironic it would be if tomorrow is starbuck? :D
 
that's the idea. clear myself as much as possible so Starbuck can be quite sure I'm not an imposter without loosing my Insta-kill. To use it so near to the deadline could end in some disaster..lol, also I have not the slightest idea. Tomorrow would have been the one I guess...:D

Anyone else agrees with DP? hurry if so.

Completely up to you. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Just hurry!
 
Welp I think the day is done.... so unless I'm reading things incorrectly, I predict koodauw gets lynched. And by predict I mean that's what the votes say... hopefully he's a baddie, at worst a plain jane citizen.
 
Insta kill near deadline is not advised as no one has a chance to change votes for the new situation unless GM clears votes and extends deadline. Is that guaranteed?
 
Insta kill near deadline is not advised as no one has a chance to change votes for the new situation unless GM clears votes and extends deadline. Is that guaranteed?

that has changed with the games. not sure what would ravenvii do in this situation.

i would make so that it simply takes the killed (and their vote) out of the picture, therefore the votes for the insta-killed become "no-votes"

in other words, the second in line gets lynched, with no extension of voting.
this gives the holder of the insta-kill an interesting tactical edge, with a lot of fun possibilities
 
Twietee, that post where you......set out in some detail...votes cast was one of the most difficult things I have tried to read on this thread. I cannot make head nor tail of it; it is completely incomprehensible, but each to his own.

I use DP's linky steadily, as I have my own scribbles which I extended and out came this list. It's basically DP's linky in chronological order. I think it can give you a better overview about certain voting dynamics.

For example DAY 1:
08. woodNUFC (1) - Sythas (3) - #135
showed me, that woodNUFC cast the third vote on Sythas while evebody else had one vote at max. And that quite early (= nothing really hapeneded) so that was my reason to go with woodNUFC

or

13. Koodauw (3) - Silent Panda (1) - #144

shows that Koodauw although he was heads on heads with Sythas, both having three votes, went after Silent Panda, giving him the first vote without any real explanation.

and so on and so on. But yea, overall it's a mess!

that has changed with the games. not sure what would ravenvii do in this situation.

i would make so that it simply takes the killed (and their vote) out of the picture, therefore the votes for the insta-killed become "no-votes"

in other words, the second in line gets lynched, with no extension of voting.
this gives the holder of the insta-kill an interesting tactical edge, with a lot of fun possibilities

That's what I thought. But being uncomfortable with both Koodauw and Jav being lynched at the moment as I am, I thought it not a good idea. Plus, when I still have the insta-kill possibility, I'm far more attractive for the bad guys. I personally see the Seer as the most important person in the game, prolly StarBuck on the second place. I am a mere badass bodyguard doing my best to let them live a round more or two.
 
13. Koodauw (3) - Silent Panda (1) - #144

shows that Koodauw although he was heads on heads with Sythas, both having three votes, went after Silent Panda, giving him the first vote without any real explanation.

koodauw did a similar move today, when he changed from you to moyank (286), without explanation and little effectiveness, where a vote to Jav would have likely saved his head.
 
koodauw did a similar move today, when he changed from you to moyank (286), without explanation and little effectiveness, where a vote to Jav would have likely saved his head.

So he did. We'll see soon if he's going to detonate or not. If yes, I think I'm going to follow him. :D

Besides if Koodauw happens to be a baddie - it would shine a strong light on Tomorrow imho.
 
I use DP's linky steadily, as I have my own scribbles which I extended and out came this list. It's basically DP's linky in chronological order. I think it can give you a better overview about certain voting dynamics.

For example DAY 1:
08. woodNUFC (1) - Sythas (3) - #135
showed me, that woodNUFC cast the third vote on Sythas while evebody else had one vote at max. And that quite early (= nothing really hapeneded) so that was my reason to go with woodNUFC

or

13. Koodauw (3) - Silent Panda (1) - #144

shows that Koodauw although he was heads on heads with Sythas, both having three votes, went after Silent Panda, giving him the first vote without any real explanation.

and so on and so on. But yea, overall it's a mess!



That's what I thought. But being uncomfortable with both Koodauw and Jav being lynched at the moment as I am, I thought it not a good idea. Plus, when I still have the insta-kill possibility, I'm far more attractive for the bad guys. I personally see the Seer as the most important person in the game, prolly StarBuck on the second place. I am a mere badass bodyguard doing my best to let them live a round more or two.


and of course there is always the possibility that you lied your cylon arse off to save said arse, meanwhile baiting starbuck to protect you tonight, thus getting herself killed. ;) of course the real Helo would have zapped you right and there, if that was the case :D

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why are you so keen on Tomorrow?
 
Besides if Koodauw happens to be a baddie - it would shine a strong light on Tomorrow imho.

Add Jav to that list as well. Although that'd look too easy.

[/COLOR]why are you so keen on Tomorrow?

Not really keen. Like I said, I have no clue. But so do most if not all the others - at leat I did not read one good explanation. Tomorrow because he, just like me, was quite vocal about Koodauw's postings - and Koodauw was a very convenient target, like me. I still think there was at least one wolf among those who voted either for me or Koodauw. Tomorrow is one of those who would look 'good' either way: Koodauw being a Cylon and Koodauw being innocent. But that's as vague as it can get at this point.
 
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and of course there is always the possibility that you lied your cylon arse off to save said arse, meanwhile baiting starbuck to protect you tonight, thus getting herself killed. ;) of course the real Helo would have zapped you right and there, if that was the case :D

Only if the real Helo was on. Wasn't a large window I don't think between when the claim was made and the day was done.
 
I'm entering my well known self preservation mode. Of course, you'll be expecting the "I have no evidence, but I'm a citizen" speech from me but no. Not today...

If I die, I'll die hoping Cylons are done for.

Else, I can wait for next game.


Note: I see my lovely Consigleri in another universe decided to vote for me. How awkward this feels.

Per now, Koodauw
 
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