[WW] Battlestar Galactica - GAME OVER - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

[ravenvii]

"This is Commander Adama calling all CAG units.

You may not have seen combat in quite some time. However, this is the time to prepare for the possibility. The CIC has learned that someone -- or something is emitting signals from the Galactica, and it wasn't ours.

Combat Information Center,

We suspect that the Cylon hiding -- "

*gunshot* *gunshot*

*static*

Scepticalscribe has been killed by Cylons.

11 remain and 6 is the majority vote.

 

[jav6454]

Scepticalscribe has been killed by Cylons.

11 remain and 6 is the majority vote.

Well now, I am bit aghast at the events. Infallibly, people will give me a once over. However, I must importune that my hand kept steady and did not do away with doll faced Scepticalscribe.

I fathom she would have adored reading this circumspectly authored token of her beloved English prose.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

"This is Commander Adama calling all CAG units.

You may not have seen combat in quite some time. However, this is the time to prepare for the possibility. The CIC has learned that someone -- or something is emitting signals from the Galactica, and it wasn't ours.

Combat Information Center,

We suspect that the Cylon hiding -- "

*gunshot* *gunshot*

*static*

Scepticalscribe has been killed by Cylons.

11 remain and 6 is the majority vote.

Damn.

Such is life. And death.....

Well now, I am bit aghast at the events. Infallibly, people will give me a once over. However, I must importune that my hand kept steady and did not do away with doll faced Scepticalscribe.

I fathom she would have adored reading this circumspectly authored token of her beloved English prose.

Well, while your hand may have been steady, there was, it seems, an even steadier hand onboard. One aiming a pistol......

Fare thee well, comrades, and use your time (not quite infinite, although it may seem that way) and resources (mental) intelligently.

 

[twietee]

Can't say that I'm overtly happy at the dawn of a new day. At least Scepticalscribe won't take my beloved little kite away all the time. But you're dolefully missed nonetheless. I'll let the Bialetti gurgle a petit nocturnal.

Wouldn't bet my money on our team right now.

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Now to the fun part: who's to be shot!? Sythas? Rick? Chrmjenkins? DP?

- jav and Sythas were lynch candidates #2 the first and second day. If we want to gather some little info those two could generate such info. I'm all ears to another, better approach. Personally, I would prefer to check out i.e. Tomorrow or Rick, but that's just a hunch and shouldn't count for much.


Or that cute little panda-panda over there? Could shoot it right away...no problem.

Also, since there aren't any infections possible, the insta-kill loses some purpose. It doesn't really matter if we use it now or tomorrow or never. Nice and important side-effect for all you doubters is my clearance.

 

[Tomorrow]

Hmm...I got nothin'.

If the seer wants to check me out, feel free.

 

[Don't panic]

Can't say that I'm overtly happy at the dawn of a new day. At least Scepticalscribe won't take my beloved little kite away all the time. But you're dolefully missed nonetheless. I'll let the Bialetti gurgle a petit nocturnal.

Wouldn't bet my money on our team right now.

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Now to the fun part: who's to be shot!? Sythas? Rick? Chrmjenkins? DP?

- jav and Sythas were lynch candidates #2 the first and second day. If we want to gather some little info those two could generate such info. I'm all ears to another, better approach. Personally, I would prefer to check out i.e. Tomorrow or Rick, but that's just a hunch and shouldn't count for much.


Or that cute little panda-panda over there? Could shoot it right away...no problem.

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Also, since there aren't any infections possible, the insta-kill loses some purpose. It doesn't really matter if we use it now or tomorrow or never. Nice and important side-effect for all you doubters is my clearance.

This.
Honestly, if you don't use your shot today, you'd be a strong candidate for lynching. If you do, then you'd be the only one we can trust completely.

There are 11 people left, 10 excluding yourself. Of these, 4 are enemies.
the odds are not too bad.
Of the ones you mentioned, (jav, sythas, rick, tomorrow, chrmjenkins and myself) i would exclude myself -obviously- and chrmjenkins (i have played with him many a game and he reeks human to me -really dude, take a shower!). Jav and sythas are playing a very circumspect game compared to other times, although jav gave us some reason. Rick and tomorrow seem to be on many people's radar.

However, if we go for the "open source" approach, which i would like to try, then obviously we wait for the outings first and go from there.

Scepticalscribe was a definitive loss for the Galactica, it't not a surprise she was a target.
Hopefully she was not a special.

 

[twietee]

This.
Honestly, if you don't use your shot today, you'd be a strong candidate for lynching. If you do, then you'd be the only one we can trust completely.

There are 11 people left, 10 excluding yourself. Of these, 4 are enemies.
the odds are not too bad.
Of the ones you mentioned, (jav, sythas, rick, tomorrow, chrmjenkins and myself) i would exclude myself -obviously- and chrmjenkins (i have played with him many a game and he reeks human to me -really dude, take a shower!). Jav and sythas are playing a very circumspect game compared to other times, although jav gave us some reason. Rick and tomorrow seem to be on many people's radar.

However, if we go for the "open source" approach, which i would like to try, then obviously we wait for the outings first and go from there.

It's not sure we have 4 opponents.
There is no reason not to use my insta-bility today. that's what I wanted to say.
Who else is supecting tomorrow? I haven't heard anyone but Koodauw and me.
You and chrmjenkins are suspicious because you're still alive. That's all.
I would like not to go the all out attack way, but don't want to be the bugger too. So I don't care and let you folks decide *cue cop-out*

Menu of the day:

1 sort out open source or not
2 twietee shoots to kill
3 lunch a Cylon

Let's get started then, plenty of work to be done!

 

[Don't panic]

It's not sure we have 4 opponents.
There is no reason not to use my insta-bility today. that's what I wanted to say.
Who else is supecting tomorrow? I haven't heard anyone but Koodauw and me.
You and chrmjenkins are suspicious because you're still alive. That's all.
I would like not to go the all out attack way, but don't want to be the bugger too. So I don't care and let you folks decide *cue cop-out*

Menu of the day:

1 sort out open source or not
2 twietee shoots to kill
3 lunch a Cylon

Let's get started then, plenty of work to be done!

Unless Baltar was one of the early kills, the odds that after 3 days he and 6 found each other are quite high (since they both scann for each other at night). It is wise to assume he is gone bad. His saving grace his is role as substitute specialist, but that also is lost when he turns, if i read the rules correctly.

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Menu looks appetizing.

 

[twietee]

Well, you guys think it's worth discussing if ravenvii's statement

"We at Command has just learned that the Cylons…

… now can look like us. There are at least one Cylon among us in this fleet."

is to be interpreted as "There is a traitor among us." (sorry scepticalscribe, I think you already mentioned it much earlier and I, bland as I am, called you out on that) which the GG has to inform us about when Baltar and Six found each other? If so, they found each other the first night. If not, I'd say they haven't found out till now, be it by sheer luck or via early death.

Sadly, I think it is what it looks like. I'm late to the party, I know, sorry if that was basic knowledge already


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Also, to get things moving, a tally (sketch) for the all-out-attack:

pro: don't Panic, chrmjenkins, QoS, Sythas, SilentPanda

contra: twietee, SilentPanda

multiple answers are allowed

 

[twietee]

I have two major problems with the approach:

First, it somewhat implies strong participation of all players, I think that's my major complaint: we have lot's of players borderline lost in the woods, heck not even voting to save their own asses. Not sure if those 'real-world' circumstances are included within the theory

Second, Athena won't know who the specials are. Or #12 (like SilentPanda mentioned before). All she can know if someone was/is a Cylon or a Human or a traitor(Baltar). All in all I feel this is as much gambling as we're doing right now.

I still think ravenvii's note about the traitor isn't really as obvious as it should be imho. It was the first night/first kill overall, so it could be well interpreted as a general take for the narration. He's an excellent story-teller who knows what he writes, I know that.

 

[Don't panic]

Well, you guys think it's worth discussing if ravenvii's statement

"We at Command has just learned that the Cylons…

… now can look like us. There are at least one Cylon among us in this fleet."

is to be interpreted as "There is a traitor among us." (sorry scepticalscribe, I think you already mentioned it much earlier and I, bland as I am, called you out on that) which the GG has to inform us about when Baltar and Six found each other? If so, they found each other the first night. If not, I'd say they haven't found out till now, be it by sheer luck or via early death.

Sadly, I think it is what it looks like. I'm late to the party, I know, sorry if that was basic knowledge already


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Also, to get things moving, a tally (sketch) for the all-out-attack:

pro: don't Panic, chrmjenkins, QoS, twietee

contra: twietee

I vote conveniently for both, multiple answers are allowed

narratives are just that, narratives. there is no info about the game in them.
that said, i think just probability suggests Baltar has likely turned.

 

[Sythas]

Ok, I'll start the ball even tho I paint myself as a regular citizen, thus a potential Cylon.

Twietee, you need to use your insta-kill today, or we lynch you.

So if you don't have a target you want to use your insta-kill, I would say put all the names in a basket and let the fate decide.

Sythas
twietee
rick snagwell
Moyank24
Scepticalscribe - Killed by Cylons
WoodNUFC - Killed by Citizens
Plutonius
Queen of Spades
Don't panic
chrmjenkins
Koodauw - Committed Suicide
jav6454
Tomorrow
Comeagain? - Killed by Cylons
SilentPanda

Now, I think you need to choose when the special reveal themself, but you do as you want.

 

[twietee]

narratives are just that, narratives. there is no info about the game in them.
that said, i think just probability suggests Baltar has likely turned.

it is stated in the rules that the GG has to inform us when Baltar and Six found each other. (- Six or Baltar find each other. Killing still occurs. It will be publicly announced during the next day by the GG that the Humans have a traitor among them. )

So if, and I agree upon that, narratives are just that: narratives, it is clear that they haven't found each other just yet!

 

[SilentPanda]

So if you don't have a target you want to use your insta-kill, I would say put all the names in a basket and let the fate decide.

This seems incredibly rash this early on in the game day. Even if ravenvii puts a deadline on us, we likely have until at least Saturday night to do this and the lynching.

 

[chrmjenkins]

My "vote" for sniping would be Sythas, tomorrow, or QoS.

 

[Sythas]

This seems incredibly rash this early on in the game day. Even if ravenvii puts a deadline on us, we likely have until at least Saturday night to do this and the lynching.

Yes I don't want him to use it really early, after we know if everyone reveal themself or not, but before the end of the day, and quite frankly before we are near a lynch, to use it.

Like when Ravenvii impose us a deadline, I think it would be a good time.

BTW, There's a chance that the Cylon found 12 and we know that the baltar and the six did not found each other yet and there's a chance that the baltar is already dead.

 

[twietee]

My tepid list would be as follows:

QoS
Sythas
Tomorrow
Jav

Chrmjenkins and DP have outsider chances. Much too powerful/helpful to be still alive. But a) it looks good for Cylons so they get a wee bit dandy or b) as bait. chrmjenkins hasn't played lately so it could be compliant as well.

And sorry, I don't see this open-source thing happening at all, as I said it's an (very) interesting mind game, but I don't see it work out in reality just yet. To involve everybody discussing this in the first place? Then again everybody to participate and to out themselves? Followed by a shtickload of deduction and whatnot plus a complete insta-kill and lynch process? Never gonna happen imho. Cylons will partly just pretend to be absent, Moyank and Jav for example aren't online (but i.e. humans)...how'd we deal with all that?
Best of all, Sythas is already voting for me. This may not be a hoax but deflects from our duties.

If you start to vote for me right now, I'll just shoot one from the list above, because everything points to me being honest (not killed at night, no no-kill, not killed by helo now), yet still people focus on me. When you come up with a good theory why someone is more suspicious than someone else, I'll act, otherwise we just run in circles here.

sorry, little rant

 

[Sythas]

I vote for you until you instakill someone. And anyway we need to lynch someone at the end of the day. The cylon can know if the hunter is already dead... not us as a group, unless the special come out.

 

[twietee]

I vote for you until you instakill someone. And anyway we need to lynch someone at the end of the day. The cylon can know if the hunter is already dead... not us as a group, unless the special come out.

Very well. Good point, you can vote for me all you want, but please contribute more to the who looks guilty and who don't. Giving me a list of 15 players including the dead is not helpful.

 

[SilentPanda]

Twietee, you need to use your insta-kill today, or we lynch you.

So if you don't have a target you want to use your insta-kill, I would say put all the names in a basket and let the fate decide.

"We"? You only have one vote. It's way too early to say we're going to lynch twietee.

I vote for you until you instakill someone. And anyway we need to lynch someone at the end of the day. The cylon can know if the hunter is already dead... not us as a group, unless the special come out.

If twietee is Helo and does snipe someone, why would we lynch him at the end of the day? Let the cylons have at him, use our lynch on a potential cylon instead.

IMO stop being so pushy with the sniping... twietee already said he's going to use it, we have *plenty* of time to talk about it. If I were twietee I'd almost snipe you just to get you to shush...

Nobody except you has voted for the lynch yet so even if Baltar is alive and if Baltar has turned cylon, it'd take another vote plus the 4 cylons to ninja lynch. Ain't gonna happen plus it would pretty much out all 4. IMO you should remove your vote to make it even less likely.

PS twietee don't forget to snipe k!?

 

[jav6454]

Ok, I'll start the ball even tho I paint myself as a regular citizen, thus a potential Cylon.

Twietee, you need to use your insta-kill today, or we lynch you.

I wouldn't be so eager to vote him off. I have a strong hunch he is who he says he is.

I will do this instead: Sythas

Why? Forcing Twietee to use his ability is not the wisest move. Basically, there is a very good chance his shot will kill an innocent making it a loss for us and an extra kill for the Cylons. I am in heavy disagreement of the usage of that insta-kill right now. Perhaps when we dwindle down two more players. I know it sounds horrible to loose two people, but by then our odds of killing our own are not as bad as now.

Besides, we have 4 potential enemies, Baltar and #12 are wild cards after all. I would count them separate to the regular people due to them not going anywhere until active.

Also, probability of them both being active is next to null. One of them active is a possibility. However, I also think either #12 or Baltar is dead at this point. Either Baltar was killed by the Cylons or #12 lynched off. Either way seems very plausible.

That is is ladies and gents, my analysis for today. See you later at night.

 

[chrmjenkins]

Unless Baltar was one of the early kills, the odds that after 3 days he and 6 found each other are quite high (since they both scann for each other at night). It is wise to assume he is gone bad. His saving grace his is role as substitute specialist, but that also is lost when he turns, if i read the rules correctly.

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Menu looks appetizing.

We're still not at 50% yet. 6 scans out of 15 people is a 40% chance. However, Baltar would also show up as human and cylons can kill him, so there's a 4/15, ~30% chance he's dead already.

 

[twietee]

But ravenvii didn't give us notice, right? Baltar isn't active imho.

Not that this changes something sgnificantly at the moment, but still.

 

[chrmjenkins]

I wouldn't be so eager to vote him off. I have a strong hunch he is who he says he is.

I will do this instead: Sythas

Why? Forcing Twietee to use his ability is not the wisest move. Basically, there is a very good chance his shot will kill an innocent making it a loss for us and an extra kill for the Cylons. I am in heavy disagreement of the usage of that insta-kill right now. Perhaps when we dwindle down two more players. I know it sounds horrible to loose two people, but by then our odds of killing our own are not as bad as now.

Besides, we have 4 potential enemies, Baltar and #12 are wild cards after all. I would count them separate to the regular people due to them not going anywhere until active.

Also, probability of them both being active is next to null. One of them active is a possibility. However, I also think either #12 or Baltar is dead at this point. Either Baltar was killed by the Cylons or #12 lynched off. Either way seems very plausible.

That is is ladies and gents, my analysis for today. See you later at night.

If he doesn't use it today, then he's likely dead tomorrow and we don't have a choice to use it. If he's alive tomorrow and didn't use it today, we definitely lynch. However, there's no harm in him doing it if it's a mutually agreed upon choice. Then it's no different than a normal lynching, with the benefit of a "second day" immediately following it. There's nothing special about the vote to lynch that makes it better than a mutually agreed upon choice for helo to use his ability.

I'm willing to say Sythas, which would be voided if helo goes that way.

 

[SilentPanda]

Why? Forcing Twietee to use his ability is not the wisest move. Basically, there is a very good chance his shot will kill an innocent making it a loss for us and an extra kill for the Cylons. I am in heavy disagreement of the usage of that insta-kill right now. Perhaps when we dwindle down two more players. I know it sounds horrible to loose two people, but by then our odds of killing our own are not as bad as now.

If twietee is Helo and the Cylons believe it, he might not live for two more deaths.

Also, probability of them both being active is next to null. One of them active is a possibility. However, I also think either #12 or Baltar is dead at this point. Either Baltar was killed by the Cylons or #12 lynched off. Either way seems very plausible.

It's not next to null. Baltar and Six are both seeking each other out. However since they aren't sharing the same checklist, I don't think their odds increase by a huge amount. Saying it's next to null makes it sound like there is no chance. There's a decent chance although there's also a decent chance Baltar has already been killed.

If 12 is lynched, 12 explodes. So 12 hasn't been lynched. 12 may have been found since we had one night without a death but that can also mean that Starbuck protected who the Cylons were going to off. So the odds that 12 has been found by the cylons aren't null either. It's slightly more realistic that the cylons chose a single individual to kill and it was 12 moreso than the cylons and starbuck chose the same individual to kill/protect. Odds are better 12 has been contacted. But there is no proof other than odds.

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But ravenvii didn't give us notice, right? Baltar isn't active imho.

Not that this changes something sgnificantly at the moment, but still.

I think that's still up in the air. ravenvii clarified the citizen/human naming when asked but not the bit about the word 'traitor'. I fall either way on that. He may not have seen the query. For now I'm working under the assumption that it was flavor text like the human/citizen.