i have to say that i would be very interested to hear intell's take on the night's developments
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[WW] Knee-Deep in the Dead - WOOF WOOF WEREWOLVES WIN
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Ah, thank you. A necessary clarification, when I was brooding over the three roles which could distort and disguise votes cast and have an effect on the final tally. (Thank God we don't have such a thing in the real life elections which I monitor and observe!)
An example of the excellent analytical skill you have so often displayed….
I am beginning to think that I may need to print out the first page in order to study it a lot more closely. One of the drawbacks of screens is that I tend to scan and read rapidly.
I understand where you're going with this, but I can't figure out why everyone thinks saving yourself = wolk. If it were me, and I had the soother power and my arse was on the line, I'd definitely use it. Wouldn't that be the logical move? Particularly if you're innocent and don't want the village to blow one.
I suppose it's better to press him a bit than have nothing to move forward on.
I agree.
And, Melrose, DP and I have all agreed that this is so. I'd do the same myself - suicide is not necessarily a good option for the village if it means your own death and a power neutralised rather than invoked to save yourself if necessary.
However, in such a position, I'd try argument - and some sort of attempt at defence - before invoking my power.
that's not what i am thinking.
if he is the soother and he used the power to save himself, i would draw no judgment on his wolkiness, either way. that would have been a perfectly understandable and actually the 'correct' move (since he didn't know what koodauw was), although if he had time to do that, maybe he would have had time to post as well)
if i comes out and says he is the soother, i would take him at his word (at least initially)
but that is not the only explanation.
Another equally plausible one is that a power was used by somebody else on his behalf. if that was the case, there would be a very significant chance he would be a wolf.
THAT is what makes him more suspicious than others in my eyes. for most of the others is still 4/15 (counting the infection), for him is more like 50-50
Okay. But why wouldn't he just say he's the soother, then? It's not like he will admit that he sat back and was saved by a wolfy pal in this circumstance. I also can't imagine he'd be silent, say nothing in his defense, and then just wait to be saved by a comrade if he were a wolf. That would be exceptionally bad play. Anyway, just spitballing. I still obviously want to hear his POV on this. I voted for him.
well, there is a certain degree of risk in claiming he is the soother if he is not.
as there is a degree of risk in claiming he is NW/Morphed with the soother if he is not.
while there is not much risk in coming out with either if he is telling the truth, especially if his power is now spent.
the longer he stays silent, the more he looks dubious to me.
as there is a degree of risk in claiming he is NW/Morphed with the soother if he is not.
while there is not much risk in coming out with either if he is telling the truth, especially if his power is now spent.
the longer he stays silent, the more he looks dubious to me.
a few extra night/day thoughts just in case
sort of related: if intel turns out to be in fact a wolfie, i would give a good look to anjinha and plutonius. And in any case keep an eye on comegain
unrelated 1: oracle. at this point, we probably do not have one, but if we do, i highly recommend that s/he pick 2-3 of the people s/he suspects most and asks the question tomorrow. waiting longer would be too much.
unrelated 2: necromancer. also have strong suspicion they are not in play or play for the wrong side. if not, chrmjenkins would be a highly useful zombie-dog
unrealted 3:, Rick, since you kind of made yourself a target, you should consider the opportunity of sharing infos you might have, and/or taking advantage of your powers if they could be useful, before they cannot be used
sort of related: if intel turns out to be in fact a wolfie, i would give a good look to anjinha and plutonius. And in any case keep an eye on comegain
unrelated 1: oracle. at this point, we probably do not have one, but if we do, i highly recommend that s/he pick 2-3 of the people s/he suspects most and asks the question tomorrow. waiting longer would be too much.
unrelated 2: necromancer. also have strong suspicion they are not in play or play for the wrong side. if not, chrmjenkins would be a highly useful zombie-dog
unrealted 3:, Rick, since you kind of made yourself a target, you should consider the opportunity of sharing infos you might have, and/or taking advantage of your powers if they could be useful, before they cannot be used
so you are not the soother or NW/morpher?
p.s you need to change your sig now. too bad, as it was one my favs
yeah it's great.
but the new software doesn't have editing reasons, an the editing is not in that position, so i thought it would become too obvious.
but may be not a people will continue to be fooled
so uhhh, do you have any info that would be useful for this game? close call there yeah?
So let me get this straight: If someone used this power on his behalf, there's more likelihood he's a wolf, but if he used it on himself, it's 50/50?* What if the Bluff was used... that's wolf-only correct? So in that case they could still be trying to cover their own tracks, unless that "doesn't count toward the majority" thing gets in the way. DP, what's your thoughts on this? you can figure all the angles...
Not to be insulting to Panic-man, but WHERE'S AGGIE WHEN YOU NEED HIM!
@Intell for someone with your username I would have expected a slightly better explanation.
*which are actually still pretty damn good odds tbh.
Not to be insulting to Panic-man, but WHERE'S AGGIE WHEN YOU NEED HIM!
@Intell for someone with your username I would have expected a slightly better explanation.
*which are actually still pretty damn good odds tbh.
So let me get this straight: If someone used this power on his behalf, there's more likelihood he's a wolf, but if he used it on himself, it's 50/50?* What if the Bluff was used... that's wolf-only correct? So in that case they could still be trying to cover their own tracks, unless that "doesn't count toward the majority" thing gets in the way. DP, what's your thoughts on this? you can figure all the angles...
Not to be insulting to Panic-man, but WHERE'S AGGIE WHEN YOU NEED HIM!
@Intell for someone with your username I would have expected a slightly better explanation.
*which are actually still pretty damn good odds tbh.
My take is this
Since he claims he is not the soother himself, nor he is part of NW or morphing pair, the most likely way he would be a villager is if
- a villager-soother decided that he was important to save or was so strongly convinced koodauw was bad to be worth the use of soothing. Not very likely
- a ww-soother used their one shot to somehow make intell look bad. Very unlikely imo
- soothing was used on a vote before it was switched to intell, and intell was saved by chance. This would make rick look bad
On the other hand, it could be the other wws trying to save thrir buddy.
At this point i am inclined to believe the latter (ww)
This would be a good time for the soother to come out with their perspecti e
Right but how does the Bluff apply here though? I'm not trying to be slow I really don't get how they differ or the impact has on this particular scenario.
No, it's been established I am the the delicious Cabbage. "Uh-oh peeps I'm having a thought here!" ... "HANG MELROSE FOR TRYING TO THINK, DAMN HIM!"
ps at least the new smileys are cool
No, it's been established I am the the delicious Cabbage. "Uh-oh peeps I'm having a thought here!" ... "HANG MELROSE FOR TRYING TO THINK, DAMN HIM!"
ps at least the new smileys are cool
The bluff would have pretended to vote for intel, but in reality secretly voting otherwiseRight but how does the Bluff apply here though? I'm not trying to be slow I really don't get how they differ or the impact has on this particular scenario.
No, it's been established I am the the delicious Cabbage. "Uh-oh peeps I'm having a thought here!" ... "HANG MELROSE FOR TRYING TO THINK, DAMN HIM!"
ps at least the new smileys are cool
If that is the case, than the ww bluff would be one of the seven intell voters
Well, that was made pretty clear at the outset. I think a few people suggested that this would most likely last for the best part of a fortnight, or more.
When you have approximately 20 people starting out, with a great many different roles - which can have an unknown and widely varied impact on how other roles are used or interpreted, and very little knowledge (especially at the beginning) as to who is who and what is what - and, add to that normal lives and commitments , it would be surprise if this clocked in at under two weeks.
However, it may speed up incredibly rapidly towards the end.
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