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as mentioned above, he could be the seer, although one would hope he would have spoken out, since he did participate to the discussion towards the end.

Huh, that's what I wrote: >99% he isn't Master of Whispers. :confused:

Anyhow, I don't understand Pluto's reasoning for SilentPanda being suspicious because of starting said Jav-wagon, if we want to look at those last 'pilers' I'd suggest Costabunny and Pluto himself.

costabunny hopped on the UFC-wagon as she did with the Jav-mob, but she posts these nice Monty Python quotes, and I would hate to miss those.

But let's wait first who gets killed tonight - hopefully none without the Red Man being found - before we restart our merciless accusationprocess all over again.

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On a side note, guys I know y'all really like those, but I'd ask you to change your colourful tights in favor of something more casual for our next gatherings. I'll keep my golden jammies if you don't mind.
 
Anyhow, I don't understand Pluto's reasoning for SilentPanda being suspicious because of starting said Jav-wagon, if we want to look at those last 'pilers' I'd suggest Costabunny and Pluto himself.

If you read it again, I said that SilentPanda is very doubtful to be a traitor although not 100% cleared (I'm not sure how you mis-read it). Anyone from yourself onward (including me) should be considered as possible pile on votes although I'm more suspicious of the single meaningless votes.

Sir Twietee, since you have cleared yourself of possibly being a traitor, you might be a target for assassination tonight. Don't worry though since I will stand guard outside your room and nothing can get past me and threaten you.
 
To put a word or more in bold on the phone;

put square brackets with a 'B' in them before the name and Square brackets with '/B' in them at the end of the name :)

If you don't want to screenshot BBCode, you can use the NOPARSE tag. Then you can just do [plain][B]jav3121[/B][/plain]. Fancy! (That's actually a noparse inside a noparse... BBCodeception!)

SilentPanda started the bandwagon on Jav and ,though not cleared, he could be considered very doubtful.

If you read it again, I said that SilentPanda is very doubtful to be a traitor although not 100% cleared (I'm not sure how you mis-read it). Anyone from yourself onward (including me) should be considered as possible pile on votes although I'm more suspicious of the single meaningless votes.

I misread your first statement of accusing me too! Not sure why I did though. Meanie. I think I read it as SilentPanda is someone to doubt the loyalty of.

IMO there's wayyyyy too many votes at the moment and no need for traitors to hide by voting for jav. That doesn't mean they voted for him or not, but I don't think it narrows the list down.

We got lucky. I still don't have suspicions on anybody.
 
Huh, that's what I wrote: >99% he isn't Master of Whispers. :confused:
yeah i realize that, just wanted to make it more clear :)
Anyhow, I don't understand Pluto's reasoning for SilentPanda being suspicious because of starting said Jav-wagon, if we want to look at those last 'pilers' I'd suggest Costabunny and Pluto himself.

costabunny hopped on the UFC-wagon as she did with the Jav-mob, but she posts these nice Monty Python quotes, and I would hate to miss those.

But let's wait first who gets killed tonight - hopefully none without the Red Man being found - before we restart our merciless accusationprocess all over again.

i think plutonius was arguing against silentpanda being suspicious.

it's a bit early for vote analysis, but as there is always the chance it cannot be done later, here are my thoughts:

- we know jav is a traitor, so he could be one of 5
a. good traitor (seer)
b. red man (goth) <- EDIT:my mistake, not the 'goth', more like a 3x kamikaze
c. dirk (vamp)
d. Sneak
e. lord in waiting (baddie undertaker)

if he was a) or b), than the other traitors had no clue he was one, and thus there in no relevance in the votes for Jav except as defensive votes (for example if ufcgrad was a traitor too).

- IF Jav was c), d) or e), then that the other two acted with this knowledge and thus there info that could be extracted.
i think people 1-5 that voted for Jav are least suspicious, especially votes 3-5 (doric, queen and panda) as they are the ones that made jav a viable and then leading lynchee.
it could be a ruse, but it seems very unnecessary to sacrifice a teammate on day 1, where it would have been easy to go in any other direction

votes 6-9 are more likely (but not sure, obviously) to possibly hide a traitor throwaway vote, as queen suggested, as at that point jav's future was already very dim.
of these, costabunny looks the most suspicious to me, because he is the only person who voted FOR ufcgrad (thus helping jav) when the javtrain was getting momentum, and then switched to jav when it had become basically unstoppable
and of course, whoever did not vote for jav is obviously a suspect

Again, this has validity ONLY if Jav turns out to be one of the 'core' traitors. if he was the redman, then all this mean nothing, as nobody knew they were voting for a traitor
 
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If you read it again, I said that SilentPanda is very doubtful to be a traitor although not 100% cleared (I'm not sure how you mis-read it). Anyone from yourself onward (including me) should be considered as possible pile on votes although I'm more suspicious of the single meaningless votes.

Sir Twietee, since you have cleared yourself of possibly being a traitor, you might be a target for assassination tonight. Don't worry though since I will stand guard outside your room and nothing can get past me and threaten you.

Sorry Pluto! I missread that (doubtful = full of doubt)! Had only a quick glance at the thread at work so it seems I wrongly put your post in doubt. Please excuse! I would agree too that those (us if you want) pilers should not be the only ones we look at critically. But of those I'd agree with DP (mentioned it earlier already ;)) CostaBunny looks interesting.

DP, why do you refer to the RedMan as the goth? He's more of a passive 3xKamikaze, or am I missing something?

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it's a bit early for vote analysis, but as there is always the chance it cannot be done later, here are my thoughts:

- we know jav is a traitor, so he could be one of 5
a. good traitor (seer)
b. red man (goth)
c. dirk (vamp)
d. Sneak
e. lord in waiting (baddie undertaker)

Again, this has validity ONLY if Jav turns out to be one of the 'core' traitors. if he was the redman, then all this mean nothing, as nobody knew they were voting for a traitor

It is more or less unbelievable that Jav was a).
So there's a 3/4 chance he was connected to the other 'core' Traitors.
 
Sorry Pluto! I missread that (doubtful = full of doubt)! Had only a quick glance at the thread at work so it seems I wrongly put your post in doubt. Please excuse! I would agree too that those (us if you want) pilers should not be the only ones we look at critically. But of those I'd agree with DP (mentioned it earlier already ;)) CostaBunny looks interesting.

DP, why do you refer to the RedMan as the goth? He's more of a passive 3xKamikaze, or am I missing something?

you are right, my mistake,
goth=bought man.
redman= sort of kamikaze 3x (although, like the goth, he needs to be found for the power to be active)

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It is more or less unbelievable that Jav was a).
So there's a 3/4 chance he was connected to the other 'core' Traitors.

agreed.
 
of these, costabunny looks the most suspicious to me, because he is the only person who voted FOR ufcgrad (thus helping jav) when the javtrain was getting momentum, and then switched to jav when it had become basically unstoppable
and of course, whoever did not vote for jav is obviously a suspect

hmmm it should be noted that the Bunny is a Wench ;)



.... just a little bit or peril?.......
 
So a little confused here... What stage are we at right now? Was that a lynching or did the other traitors kill him? Are we waiting to see who the traitors kill?

Sorry for the questions, it has been a while since I have played.
 
So a little confused here... What stage are we at right now? Was that a lynching or did the other traitors kill him? Are we waiting to see who the traitors kill?

Sorry for the questions, it has been a while since I have played.

That was a lynching. Now it's night time so anybody that has an active action sends their action to chrmjenkins. The traitors will kill one of us overnight (unless some action randomly prevents that) then we'll vote again.
 
can anyone play? ;)

/rolls eyes sheepishly.........

Apologies m'lady but you will need a signed pass from Sir Twietee if you wish to visit him this evening. Rest assured though, if you do visit with Sir Twietee tonight, I will be patrolling the hallway outside Sir Twietee's room and I will do my best to see that you and Sir Twietee are not interrupted.

thank's, I was actually inviting some of the chambermaids to play some Mario Kart tonight :/

Then you will also need to give them passes.
 
Excellent. Very well done. One Traitor down, on the first day's outing. That is unusual, very rare in fact, and is an incredibly lucky selection. Successful first day killings are very, very unusual.

I confess myself somewhat surprised by the sheer vast volume of the bandwagon that actually developed, but - while bandwagons do acquire their own momentum - on this occasion, 'twas a fortunate one.

Re which Traitor has been killed, obviously, at this stage, we don't know for certain; while jav could have been the 'Good' Traitor, (the 'Athena' character, - or 'Master of Whispers') for now, I would say that I think it somewhat unlikely, as I think he might have found some way of letting it be known that the mob were about to lynch the wrong person. Besides, as others have pointed out, while there is a one in five chance that the dead Traitor, is, in fact, the wrong dead traitor, there is a much greater chance that he was not. Either way, for now, let us rejoice, as we note with pleasure that the ranks of the Traitors are thinned.
 
I would say that I think it somewhat unlikely, as I think he might have found some way of letting it be known that the mob were about to lynch the wrong person.

I never reveal my role early in a game. One game, I got voted out in the first or second turn and I was the seer.

In Jav's case, it looked more like suicide since he didn't bother voting or even arguing his case. My bet is that he didn't like the role he was given.
 
Then you will also need to give them passes.

Hmpf, signing passes for chambermaids? I think not. What a pity that they had only SNES in the medieval ages and no online gaming..

I don't understand not revealing ones role under such circumstances. Seems selfish.
 
In Jav's case, it looked more like suicide since he didn't bother voting or even arguing his case. My bet is that he didn't like the role he was given.

Eh. He's spotty with availability... and what can you say to defend yourself on day 1? "I'm not a traitor." Oh well in that case, let's not vote him off since he's surely being honest.
 
We were exceptionally lucky. I accused Jav day 1 simply because he claimed to be a Targaryen. I'm now wondering if that was intended as a hint to the other traitors to kill him off as he was the Red Man. Seems a little too obvious though.
 
Eh. He's spotty with availability... and what can you say to defend yourself on day 1? "I'm not a traitor." Oh well in that case, let's not vote him off since he's surely being honest.

Well, one could always try at least. Nobody has too, though. I succeeded once by doing so without claiming to be a special. I was a wolf actually...lol
 
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