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[WW] - The Game of Thrones - GAME OVER - LOYALS WIN
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Is it? means anyone can now claim to be Maester since they have no power anymore. I would think whoever it is revealing themselves would be for the best, otherwise if the traitors now kill the Maester and the Lord In Waiting scans that the Maester is dead, a traitor can claim to be Maester and us loyals will have no way of knowing since the Silent Sister is dead.
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I'm sure chrmjenkins will have PMd her that she has been revived.
I think it's a good thing. We're exposed quite much as is, not too bad if The Dirk/BoughtMan have to guess a little more, if they're still alive.
Downside is of course we have one less possible cleared player. Don't think it would help much to claim to be the Maester now imho.
Downside is of course we have one less possible cleared player. Don't think it would help much to claim to be the Maester now imho.
actually you want them revealed, since its one more person we knwo to be good, and since they have used their powers, they are just a regular villager.
It would if traitors were lucky and killed of the Maester and then scanned them and found them to be dead, then a traitor under threat of lynching could say they were the one that revived Sceptical to throw us off. That does mean the traitors would need to get lucky with their kills though and its much more likely their going to be killing off known specials Vulture and MoW first so you could be right and its best for Maester to keep quiet atm.
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However any claim to be Maester after today, cant be trusted 100%.
Eeek, I thought Sythas was a guy.
Yep, still a dude, but with internet, I still could be a girl...
Hm. At times, one is not sure which is better, the state of living, or the state of not-living. As the discussion on whether or not to revive me seemed to take the proverbial eternity, tonight, in another dimension, and in a very different world, I partook of a few glasses of rich red Chianti.
However. Thank you for reviving me, and may the gods I'm not quite sure I believe in haunt those (traitors) who committed foul (but lethal) crimes upon my living body.
On the wider theme of the whole concept of The Game of Thrones, (books, series and alternative universe spin-offs, of which we appear to be one) I'm not entirely sure that I would care to resemble that Lord (Lord Beric Dondarrion?) whose memory dramatically declined with each resurrection - 'twould sort of defeat the whole point of resurrecting me.....would it not?
With that in mind, I think it seemeth timely to divulge certain pieces of information, several of which you have managed to work out for yourselves:
On Night 1, I scanned DP. This is because DP is too good, and too important to games not to know what his orientation is: The Traitors, of course, drew the exact same conclusion, and murdered him. However, his scanning revealed that he was a Good Loyal.
Night 2, was a slight dilemma; prior to his death Tomorrow had wondered about Moyank24, as did I; as with DP, when listed among the ranks of the miscreants, she is formidable. Her scan read Good Loyal.
In common with the other specials, naturally, I would not have revealed myself as such, or implied that I was such, until hounded into doing so (and well planned and plotted those who almost had me lynched twice). Once again, I will draw attention to the fact that the more prolific posters are viewed as targets (natural perhaps, but convenient and lazy, and worse, often mistaken), while those who offer taciturn bolded names are left to coast unquestioned.
Here, the dilemma is to adopt the perspective of Plutonius, and go to one's unjust grave silently, the lynch mob being equally unaware of the idiotic nature - and more importantly, consequences - of their action as those who have been subtly driving such actions - or to allude, ever so discreetly, to the fact that a hasty demise might not be to the benefit of the collective, is the best one can do, if one wishes to survive, and place one's skills, such as they are, at the benefit of the village/castle/spaceship for that little bit longer.
There is another point I wish to make here, and it is this: There was a time when the lynch mob had a choice between Tomorrow and ravenvii, both of whom suggested that they were worth retaining. I remain astounded that attention did not shift elsewhere once such revelations were made and that the mob chose to sacrifice someone who said that they may well have been a special rather than move their votes elsewhere.
Very well. Given the debate over ravenvii, and given how strongly I defended him ( and I did so before I scanned him) I felt I needed to feel certain about his loyalties, Thus, ravenvii was scanned on Night 3. Again, he scanned as a Good Loyal.
Night 4, as FenrisMoonlight correctly surmised, and given the ferocity of his misguided and somewhat obsessive pursuit of me, was when I scanned him. He, too, scanned as a Good Loyal.
While I have not spoken with our GG about this, I assume that there is a reason that the adjective 'Good' has been aligned with the noun 'Loyal'. I suspect that this is where the Bought Man - if scanned after he had been turned - would possibly show up as a 'Bad Loyal'.
Now, I am fully aware that the Sneak is allowed one successful masking from a scan, so this, of course, does not fully clear any of those I have scanned thus far. However, it should serve to preserve them from any more misguided insanity, and require that questions be asked of a number of those who have not had to face interrogation of any description so far.
A few come to my mind. One is Sythas, whom I have already voted for twice. Once is JimN, who blasts back a response whenever his name is mentioned, but is strangely quiet the rest of the time. One is Queen of Spades. And another is ucfgrad93.
If I am protected - and,of course, one can hope, but not ask, least of all demand, that one be afforded protection - for this is a gift in the hands of the donor, and not one to be lightly abused - as the protection of the Vulture should remain an utter unknown to keep the Traitors guessing and hopefully wasting an attempted kill - I shall scan one of this august body of mutes tonight.
On the topic of The Vulture: I chuckled, nay almost giggled, when the results of Night Three were announced. Thank you for your kind protection. Much appreciated. Having served, occasionally, On The Other Side, I can tell you how frustrating an unsuccessful kill actually is. You gnaw your nails, gnash your teeth.......and try again on a subsequent night but bemoan the wasted opportunity when you could have slaughtered someone else with impunity.
Thank you for having revived me. I shall attempt to prove myself worthy of this signal honour.
Thanks for that, SS. Narrows the list down quite a bit.
I am also going with jimN. He was already on my short list and as SS mentioned, only seems to pop up when his name is bolded.
What are all those instruments doing on that wagon? Are you guys making a band? If so count me in! I have a kazoo!
jimN - The past two nights he's voted for Scepticalscribe. While I didn't catch on to the fact that she was the MoW, clearly others did. Maybe he was one and wanted her dead.
jimN - The past two nights he's voted for Scepticalscribe. While I didn't catch on to the fact that she was the MoW, clearly others did. Maybe he was one and wanted her dead.
My fair Lady Scribe. Welcome back among us and my thanks for clearing my good name as I fear I was about to become the next innocent victim of an over zealous posse. Most benevolent of you after my mistaken accusations of yesterday.
Lord and Ladies, with the new information imparted by the Mistress of Whispers many voices have changed their opinions. I think we can assume that when ucfgrad93 raises his voice it will be for jimN to create a tie so currently their fates reside in the hands of those who have not yet spoken.
Potential Traitors
ucfgrad93: 4 Koodauw, jimN, Sythas, FenrisMoonlight
jimN: 3 twietee, Scepticalscribe, Queen of Spades
comeagain?: 1 ravenvii
Sythas: 1 rick snagwell
FenrisMoonlight: 1 WoodNUFC
no vote: 1 SilentPanda
Yet to vote: Comeagain?, Roric, Moyank24, ucfgrad93,
Accusations
Post 786 ravenvii accused comeagain?
Post 799 FenrisMoonlight accused Roric
Post 800 twietee accused jimN
Post 823 FenrisMoonlight accused jimN replacing previous accusation in post 799 for Roric
Post 826 rick snagwell accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 857 SilentPanda accused rick snagwell
Post 878 twietee accused FenrisMoonlight replacing previous accusation in post 800 for jimN
Post 879 WoodNUFC accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 881 SilentPanda accused FenrisMoonlight replacing previous accusation in post 857 for rick snagwell
Post 886 Koodauw accused ucfgrad93
Post 899 jimN accused ucfgrad93
Post 903 Sythas accused ucfgrad93
Post 913 FenrisMoonlight accused ucfgrad93 replacing previous accusation in post 823 for jimN
Post 929 SilentPanda accused no vote replacing previous accusation in post 881 for FenrisMoonlight
Post 935 Scepticalscribe accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 936 twietee accused jimN replacing previous accusation in post 878 for FenrisMoonlight
Post 937 rick snagwell accused Sythas replacing previous accusation in post 826 for FenrisMoonlight
Post 938 Scepticalscribe accused jimN replacing previous accusation in post 935 for FenrisMoonlight
Post 940 Queen of Spades accused jimN
FenrisMoonlight - Squire in service of the King's Justice
Yeah, you posted whilst I was writing my post which means we're already tied, so ucfgrad93 can save himself with his vote.
My understanding is that four have voted for ucfgrad93 (Koodauw, JimN, Sythas, and Fenris Moonlight).....
.........a full four amongst our number have also cast a vote for jimN (twietee, myself - Scepticalscribe, Queen of Spades, and Silent Panda) making it a tie which ucfgrad93 reached first.
Meanwhile, ricksnagwell voted for Sythas.
Ah, this seems to have been alluded to in subsequent posts.......
.........a full four amongst our number have also cast a vote for jimN (twietee, myself - Scepticalscribe, Queen of Spades, and Silent Panda) making it a tie which ucfgrad93 reached first.
Meanwhile, ricksnagwell voted for Sythas.
Ah, this seems to have been alluded to in subsequent posts.......
We didn't sacrifice either Tomorrow or ravenvii. Tomorrow was killed by traitors. The lynch mob decided to off plutonius instead. Having said that the remaining votes for ravenvii would look suspicious apart from the fact one of the is dead and two are confirmed loyals which just leaves QoS. It was a very quick shift at the end there so possible that people weren't online.
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Updated, correct votes. So, we have a tie.
U]Potential Traitors[/U]
ucfgrad93: 4 Koodauw, jimN, Sythas, FenrisMoonlight
jimN: 4 twietee, Scepticalscribe, Queen of Spades, SilentPanda
comeagain?: 1 ravenvii
Sythas: 1 rick snagwell
FenrisMoonlight: 1 WoodNUFC
Yet to vote: Comeagain?, Roric, Moyank24, ucfgrad93,
Accusations
Post 786 ravenvii accused comeagain?
Post 799 FenrisMoonlight accused Roric
Post 800 twietee accused jimN
Post 823 FenrisMoonlight accused jimN replacing previous accusation in post 799 for Roric
Post 826 rick snagwell accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 857 SilentPanda accused rick snagwell
Post 878 twietee accused FenrisMoonlight replacing previous accusation in post 800 for jimN
Post 879 WoodNUFC accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 881 SilentPanda accused FenrisMoonlight replacing previous accusation in post 857 for rick snagwell
Post 886 Koodauw accused ucfgrad93
Post 899 jimN accused ucfgrad93
Post 903 Sythas accused ucfgrad93
Post 913 FenrisMoonlight accused ucfgrad93 replacing previous accusation in post 823 for jimN
Post 929 SilentPanda accused no vote replacing previous accusation in post 881 for FenrisMoonlight
Post 935 Scepticalscribe accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 936 twietee accused jimN replacing previous accusation in post 878 for FenrisMoonlight
Post 937 rick snagwell accused Sythas replacing previous accusation in post 826 for FenrisMoonlight
Post 938 Scepticalscribe accused jimN replacing previous accusation in post 935 for FenrisMoonlight
Post 940 Queen of Spades accused jimN
Post 941 SilentPanda accused jimN replacing previous accusation in post 929 for no vote
FenrisMoonlight - Squire in service of the King's Justice
I"m always skeptical of such a quick bandwagon (on jimN) by mostly players who haven't been cleared.
SS does make a good point about the timing of his posts, but I'd hate to make the same mistake as we did with Costabunny.
SS does make a good point about the timing of his posts, but I'd hate to make the same mistake as we did with Costabunny.
The bandwagon for ucfgrad contains much more uncleared players, though.
Post 886 Koodauw accused ucfgrad93
Post 899 jimN accused ucfgrad93
Post 903 Sythas accused ucfgrad93
The votes for ucfgrad were all before Scepticals's revival, the votes for jimN are all from afterwards and half of them people switching away from me.