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[WW] - The Game of Thrones - GAME OVER - LOYALS WIN

jimN said:
Silent Panda has actually added no value through divulging their knowledge - apparently we have a couple of cleared players but none who were ever in the spot light.
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I disagree. My role greatly diminished with only the protection role being the one remaining. I can't particularly divulge who gets protected day to day since that protected person will die the next night as they can't be protected again. Therefore I was going to be getting no new information I could give to you guys. Sure those players weren't in the spotlight but we're a fickle bunch... Fenris has never been in the spotlight but look at him now. If he'd been on my list I imagine he wouldn't have votes at this point. If you find the role not providing any value, that's the fault of the role IMO. All things considered I think this was the ideal time to divulge what information there was. I'll be getting no new information aside from protection, which I can't divulge, and as the pool gets smaller he's likely to bounce around people he's already protected. At most I might get 1 new name to not vote for. With the other 2 roles dead, what else should I wait for?

Sorry for being a horrible player.
 
Woah!
I was right, the game is in full start now! Day 5.

ok, hum I am in favor to revive SS instead of anyone else, to confirm the list (still the sneak could be hidden) I think we will have more informations like that.

And we know that if the Vulture protected Moyank or Ravenvii, they are not the sneak... I think I did not see the full list of protection by Wood.

I really had not idea of who the special could be...

I'll go with ucfgrad93 and try to have a solid contender for the rope.

Now it's time to bring my A game ;)
 
ucfgrad93 said:
Why am I a solid contender for the rope?
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I'm kind of curious about this too. Not that I think ucfgrad93 is innocent or fenris especially traitorous, but we have 3 people (twietee, myself, and WoodNUFC) all voting for fenris and we know that we have no ill intent (at least WoodNUFC and myself, with a high probability of twietee).

While I don't think everybody should vote with us necessarily, without good reason to vote elsewise it would seem to make the most sense if I were just a normal ol' citizen. Hence curious about the reasoning against ucfgrad93.
 
twietee said:
I claimed or revealed nothing fyi - not sure where you got that from.
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My mistake. You had grouped yourself with the pair of them and claimed you were loyal (although curiously not 100%). I had assumed that I had missed a claimed role at some stage.

I think we need to resurrect someone because right now we've got no new info, we've a couple of candidates for the chop and it would be nice to avoid another needless death if at all possible.
 
jimN said:
My mistake. You had grouped yourself with the pair of them and claimed you were loyal (although curiously not 100%). I had assumed that I had missed a claimed role at some stage.
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That's because based on the evidence we have, he could be The Bought Man. twietee was protected at least one night and The Bought Man is the only traitor that can be protected without killed the protector.
 
SilentPanda said:
I'm kind of curious about this too. Not that I think ucfgrad93 is innocent or fenris especially traitorous, but we have 3 people (twietee, myself, and WoodNUFC) all voting for fenris and we know that we have no ill intent (at least WoodNUFC and myself, with a high probability of twietee).

While I don't think everybody should vote with us necessarily, without good reason to vote elsewise it would seem to make the most sense if I were just a normal ol' citizen. Hence curious about the reasoning against ucfgrad93.
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Maybe they believe I'm innocent and are therefore looking for another neck to chop.

I do find it weird that the three confirmed loyals have created an early bandwagon whilst admitting they really have nothing to go on. You're doing the traitors work for them. All they have to do is sit back and watch another loyal die. If you do kill me off which ever 2 of the 3 of you remain tomorrow (since I'm fairly certain the traitors will go for one of you) will have to play smarter if you want to draw the traitors out and learn anything from their votes.
 
ucfgrad93 said:
Why am I a solid contender for the rope?
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Humm a second choice to hang, not that you are suspicious.. I hate bandwagon, tho it help for the pace of the game. But I think we always should have two person neck to neck to be hanged. Last minute vote are great to find a patern...
 
FenrisMoonlight said:
I do find it weird that the three confirmed loyals have created an early bandwagon whilst admitting they really have nothing to go on.
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Because nobody here aside from the traitors have information to go on either except guesses. I'm not saying we're right, I just know that 2-3 of our votes are definitely not traitorous. I can't say the same for other votes.
 
jimN said:
My mistake. You had grouped yourself with the pair of them and claimed you were loyal (although curiously not 100%).
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Well, I am loyal. That's the truth. But theoretically, from your perspective, I could still be the Bought Man with a probability of 1/13 (4 loyal specials revealed, 17 Loyals total) or ~7.7%.

FenrisMoonlight said:
I do find it weird that the three confirmed loyals have created an early bandwagon whilst admitting they really have nothing to go on.
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Don't pretend you did nothing suspicious. You said yourself that scepticalscribe had every reason to scan you, you would find yourself suspicious. Those are your own words.
 
SilentPanda said:
Because nobody here aside from the traitors have information to go on either except guesses. I'm not saying we're right, I just know that 2-3 of our votes are definitely not traitorous. I can't say the same for other votes.
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All 3 of them aren't traitorous atm since the bought man hasn't been bought yet. However my point being by creating an early bandwagon for anyone your not giving the traitors any rope to hang themselves with. If I'm a traitor it would take all the remaining traitors to vote another way to save me which their not going to do as it would be too suspicious. If I'm loyal they can just keep doing what they've been doing and watch another loyal die. Either way you learn nothing from the votes.

With that in mind, Sythas promoting an alternative for execution makes her slightly less suspicious to me (since I know I am loyal). So partially for self preservation, partially because he is on my shortlist of possible remaining traitors and partially because it will make where the remaining votes go more interesting I'm going to switch to ucfgrad93.
 
twietee said:
Well, I am loyal. That's the truth. But theoretically, from your perspective, I could still be the Bought Man with a probability of 1/13 (4 loyal specials revealed, 17 Loyals total) or ~7.7%.



Don't pretend you did nothing suspicious. You said yourself that scepticalscribe had every reason to scan you, you would find yourself suspicious. Those are your own words.
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I did but her post literally screamed 'red man' at me. My instincts were wrong and I jumped to a conclusion that was incorrect. None of the rest of your reasoning regarding the vote posts makes any sense since the posts were like that in previous games. Your the only one of the three that has offered any reasoning and the others especially Panda have followed you like sheep 'I'll change my vote to Fenris since I trust twietee and WoodNUFC. Not that they have any information on Fenris, but to get things moving along.'

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Potential Traitors
FenrisMoonlight: 4 rick snagwell, twietee, WoodNUFC, SilentPanda
ucfgrad93: 4 Koodauw, jimN, Sythas, FenrisMoonlight
comeagain?: 1 ravenvii

Yet to vote: Comeagain?, Roric, Moyank24, ucfgrad93, Queen of Spades,

Accusations
Post 786 ravenvii accused comeagain?
Post 799 FenrisMoonlight accused Roric
Post 800 twietee accused jimN
Post 823 FenrisMoonlight accused jimN replacing previous accusation in post 799 for Roric
Post 826 rick snagwell accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 857 SilentPanda accused rick snagwell
Post 878 twietee accused FenrisMoonlight replacing previous accusation in post 800 for jimN
Post 879 WoodNUFC accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 881 SilentPanda accused FenrisMoonlight replacing previous accusation in post 857 for rick snagwell
Post 886 Koodauw accused ucfgrad93
Post 899 jimN accused ucfgrad93
Post 903 Sythas accused ucfgrad93
Post 913 FenrisMoonlight accused ucfgrad93 replacing previous accusation in post 823 for jimN

FenrisMoonlight - Squire in service to the King's Justice
 
So which Lord were you adressing the whole time - you don't do that anymore, do you? If the RedMan is giving subtle hints yours are the only I could spot, redish highlighted Tallys or not.

I did also state other reasons as well before.
 
FenrisMoonlight said:
Your the only one of the three that has offered any reasoning and the others especially Panda have followed you like sheep 'I'll change my vote to Fenris since I trust twietee and WoodNUFC. Not that they have any information on Fenris, but to get things moving along.'
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NOBODY has any information on the loyalty of anybody else. The traitors know who each other are. You folks guessing at ucfgrad93 are just as likely to be right as we are at guessing at you. Period. That being said I trust twietee and WoodNUFC (along with Moyank24 and ravenvii). I do not trust and have no reason to trust Koodauw, jimN, Sythas, or FenrisMoonlight.

Our votes for you are no more logical that your votes for ucfgrad93. It's simply a matter of trust. There are pretty good odds 1 or more of the people voting for ucfgrad93 are traitors. There are much lower odds for those voting for FenrisMoonlight.

Now I'm starting to realize why the prior game took months to start. We're all going to be worn out hating each other after this game.
 
twietee said:
So which Lord were you adressing the whole time - you don't do that anymore, do you? If the RedMan is giving subtle hints yours are the only I could spot, redish highlighted Tallys or not.

I did also state other reasons as well before.
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Which lords? All of you (i.e. the other players)!! e.g. 'Lords and Ladies, with only Comeagain? yet to make an appearance Lord costabunny is well ahead and shortly to be without his head unless things change. I hope everyone likes rabbit stew.'

It was intended to make the vote counts appear in keeping with the setting. When I'm busy with work n stuff and can't think of anything to put at the start quickly but haven't posted a list in a while I've posted a list without that just so you guys get an up to date list.
 
So are we going to see about bringing somebody back to life or not? Our deadline is likely going to come soon. I think ScepticalScribe is our best bet. We can guess Moyank24 and ravenvii are loyal since she scanned them but didn't vote for them, but they also didn't have much voting going towards them when she voted. She may have seen "Hey I can toss in a single vote for a known traitor near the end or try to keep out of the spotlight". She can also tell us the loyalty of the person she scanned last night. Don't Panic can tell us the loyalty of jav and then another person if he survives the night, but I don't really care about dead people.

While I feel that Moyank24 and ravenvii were scanned loyal, I'd hate to be wrong and give them a pass, only later to find they were both traitors.
 
SilentPanda said:
NOBODY has any information on the loyalty of anybody else. The traitors know who each other are. You folks guessing at ucfgrad93 are just as likely to be right as we are at guessing at you. Period. That being said I trust twietee and WoodNUFC (along with Moyank24 and ravenvii). I do not trust and have no reason to trust Koodauw, jimN, Sythas, or FenrisMoonlight.

Our votes for you are no more logical that your votes for ucfgrad93. It's simply a matter of trust. There are pretty good odds 1 or more of the people voting for ucfgrad93 are traitors. There are much lower odds for those voting for FenrisMoonlight.

Now I'm starting to realize why the prior game took months to start. We're all going to be worn out hating each other after this game.
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LOL! Don't hate anyone! It's just a game! And if you guys kill poor loyal me they'll be no hard feelings.

Only possible traitor atm amongst those voting for me is rick snagwell but there's not really anything conclusive you can discern from his vote.

We currently have 3 confirmed (at least until we get told the bought man has been found) loyals. There is one scenario where the 3 of you are all traitors, but its so damn improbable the traitors got that lucky I've discarded it. I hope the three of you vote smarter tomorrow if your going to draw out the remaining traitors.
 
He started to turn to leave, but a human rushed through the door towards the body. It wore a restraint around its neck similar to his. He sat and watched as the human made small sounds and rapidly shifted focus from the door to the human on the floor.

The human pulled something from his coverings and plunged his hand into it. He began massaging the dead human on the floor. The human's chest shot up and it began coughing and sputtering as it rolled to its side.

The collared human struggled to his feet with the other human in his arms, grunting as he struggled toward the door. The collared human looked at him with narrowed eyes while rounding the corner.

ScepticalScribe has been revived by the maester.
 
Welcome back to the land of the living Lady Scepticalscribe. My sincere apologies for the confusion yesterday.

So we don't get to find out who the Maester was?! :confused:
 
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