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[WW] - The Game of Thrones - GAME OVER - LOYALS WIN
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Oh yeah! He could "use his skillsssssssss"... I'm dumb.
I'm even dumber. (chrmjenkins was right last game
):Just read the whole thread (phew) and noticed that the MoW isn't told the specific role. Doh! I always thought I asked chrmjenkins and got that confirmed but it was actually about the SilentSister. I think I agree with Koodauw then about reviving DP.
Since we don't even know if our doctor's still in service and the black death calmed down 3/4 of our village somehow I'm re-entering our voting process now since there will be a deadline sooner or later. I'll rethink my choice if something extraordinary happens of course.
That said I'm voting for Fenris. He made a couple of more or less slightly suspicious moves, his latest to my knowledge being the first vote for scepticalscribe on Day4. There are other suspects in my book naturally, but I suspect him of being the RedMan so that's why he's my first target. His insisting elaboration upon scepticalsscribe's red wine quote (which also included a possible hint at being the MoW) is one reason, but there are others and a very sublime way could've been his tallys.
General tally looks like this:
He even referred to the King In Wating in this recent post. He could have addressed the Lord in Waiting the whole time and: why u highlight your tally with Red, Man?! Dp even asked if that's automatic and got this response, which explained that everything is indeed automatic (except the colour).
That's as subtle as can get and I haven't found any other player hinting at the RedMan within the whole thread besides myself once (inviting ss to a bottle of RedWine, ss herself and Rick once pointing out sth. in a quote). So that's good enough for me atm.
That said I'm voting for Fenris. He made a couple of more or less slightly suspicious moves, his latest to my knowledge being the first vote for scepticalscribe on Day4. There are other suspects in my book naturally, but I suspect him of being the RedMan so that's why he's my first target. His insisting elaboration upon scepticalsscribe's red wine quote (which also included a possible hint at being the MoW) is one reason, but there are others and a very sublime way could've been his tallys.
General tally looks like this:
He even referred to the King In Wating in this recent post. He could have addressed the Lord in Waiting the whole time and: why u highlight your tally with Red, Man?! Dp even asked if that's automatic and got this response, which explained that everything is indeed automatic (except the colour).
That's as subtle as can get and I haven't found any other player hinting at the RedMan within the whole thread besides myself once (inviting ss to a bottle of RedWine, ss herself and Rick once pointing out sth. in a quote). So that's good enough for me atm.
Sorry I've been absent this weekend. Went to my parents' for a visit and couldn't get online.
I think Tweetie has written what I was thinking about Fenris. I was really suspicious after his vote for SS the night after I protected her. I didn't want to out that info right away, so I couldn't just vote for him.
Last night, I rerotected a person on Silent Panda's list. I won't say who, for obvious reasons.
Now, I think the debate on resurrecting SS is interesting. It's risky because I can protect a number of players tonight, and hope that the traitors pick the same person. Then we can play that game until they pick the same person on successive nights to kill them. Either way, one of us will be dead tonight, and the other will probably follow the next night. It's a gamble that we probably should take, and hope we can gain some useful information. All that said, if the maester is dead, this doesn't matter.
I think Tweetie has written what I was thinking about Fenris. I was really suspicious after his vote for SS the night after I protected her. I didn't want to out that info right away, so I couldn't just vote for him.
Last night, I re
rotected a person on Silent Panda's list. I won't say who, for obvious reasons. Now, I think the debate on resurrecting SS is interesting. It's risky because I can protect a number of players tonight, and hope that the traitors pick the same person. Then we can play that game until they pick the same person on successive nights to kill them. Either way, one of us will be dead tonight, and the other will probably follow the next night. It's a gamble that we probably should take, and hope we can gain some useful information. All that said, if the maester is dead, this doesn't matter.
Another vote to bring back Don'tpanic. Am more convinced of their use than SS's.
Haven't decided who to vote for yet. Always difficult to ascertain if the really helpful people with theories are trying to drive the group forward or detract suspicion from themselves.
Haven't decided who to vote for yet. Always difficult to ascertain if the really helpful people with theories are trying to drive the group forward or detract suspicion from themselves.
I'll change my vote to Fenris since I trust twietee and WoodNUFC. Not that they have any information on Fenris, but to get things moving along.
DP doesn't know the the role of Jav - only that Jav was a traitor same as we all do. From game rules:
* She will be told the role of a Loyal player, and whether the lynched Traitor is the Master of Whispers, but he won't be told of the (bad) Traitor's role.
So DP scan won't help us - the only thing bringing back DP would do would be to let us possibly get the role of some dead loyals. I don't think that's as much help as further MoW scans would be at this point.
That's true! Darn, these rules do trick me every time I thought I've got it.
About the revival: I'm interested whether Tomorrow or Pluto were specials but that's probably much less important than two new scans. Tomorrow claimed to be one, Pluto said that he hasn't revealed himself early in previous games. I am thinking at his Man at Arms death speech = possible hunter?
I'm saying this because I'm still partial about ravenvii who also claimed to be a special, since we have 4/8 roles revealed already it would have been interesting when i.e. Tomorrow was the Bravosi, then the handmaiden(s), if still alive, would know if he's lying (would be the Sneak then) - if he's not the Maester of course.
About the revival: I'm interested whether Tomorrow or Pluto were specials but that's probably much less important than two new scans. Tomorrow claimed to be one, Pluto said that he hasn't revealed himself early in previous games. I am thinking at his Man at Arms death speech = possible hunter?
I'm saying this because I'm still partial about ravenvii who also claimed to be a special, since we have 4/8 roles revealed already it would have been interesting when i.e. Tomorrow was the Bravosi, then the handmaiden(s), if still alive, would know if he's lying (would be the Sneak then) - if he's not the Maester of course.
Apart from the fact if you go back and check when I was posting vote counts before, the top result was highlighted in red back then and I've not modified the way the script generates highlights are generated. See this post.
Also, the post your commenting on says 'Yeah, its pretty much all automatic now' and 'Only things I still have to update are the post id for the beginning of each new day and remove the people that died.' so only two things I do, rest is automatic by script.
I agree first post for Scepticalscribe can be seen to be suspicious. I explained by reasons for it. At the time I really did think she was the Red Man. I was also second to post for Jav on day 1 which wouldn't be likely from the Red Man.
Yeah, I made a mistake and said King In Waiting once, which was just me getting a role name wrong. Anyone who know's Game of Thrones knows who the King's Justice is (King Baratheon's executioner).
If I didn't know it was impossible I'd think you were a traitor aiming to get me. I've stated since Day 1 I'm loyal so I suggest the three of you that are cleared go find yourself a better target than me.
I currently have it narrowed down to a list of 8 names of which 2 are likely loyals (not 100% but I think probably are) and 3 or possibly only 2 if SS scanned the Sneak are traitors. So that's a 1/3 - 1/2 chance of getting a traitor if we go for one of them.
^ Make that Sneak or BoughtMan. (ninja'd, regarding my previous post)
And while we're at it here's my shortlist:
Fenris
Comeagain?
Sythas
ravenvii
are my prime suspects. Still there is not a lot to present, so I spare you that. Ucfgrad is still on my radar, too.
And while we're at it here's my shortlist:
Fenris
Comeagain?
Sythas
ravenvii
are my prime suspects. Still there is not a lot to present, so I spare you that. Ucfgrad is still on my radar, too.
good catch. Not worth it then. These role changes from game to game are killing me.
Ufcgrad93 has stuck to every vote.
I'm confused my this post. Yep, ravenvii claims to be a special, there are 4 roles left he could be (handmaiden x 2, Bravosi or Maester). It's also possible he's the Sneak. Its possible we've lost 2 of those (if Pluto and Tomorrow were both specials) but Pluto can't be possible hunter when we know who is the Vulture. And both Pluto and Tomorrow can't be Bravosi.
I don't think we can have lost more than 2 specials we don't know about. Lynchs only Pluto I think may have gone to his death without revealing and kills we know the roles of 2/3. I pushed costabunny to reveal if he was a special because I thought an earlier post regarding was a hint to being Bravosi and was proved to be wrong. My instincts seem way off in this game.
Fair enough, Fenris.
Your vote for Jav is indeed a good point. Maybe a gamble, maybe not. You cornering woodNUFC Night2 when ravenvii slipped off the chopping block should be mentioned imho, also that you back'd off after his outing when (only in my subjective opinion of course) Sythas was even more suspicious. Silent Panda's last game was a lesson to me.
Let's wait for the doctor to arrive or present an even more convincing case.
Sorry, I always connect the Hunter with the insta-kill. Make it Bravosi then.
If our Maester acts and revives DP who could tell us if Tomorrow was indeed a special and ravenvii isn't neither the Maester nor part of the Maidens: they could tell - and there is at least one still alive for sure.
Does it make sense now?
BUT I also think we shouldn't revive DP. It would have been worth probably when he could tell the role of the Traitors, but like that doesn't make much sense, except that he's an exceptional player.
Your vote for Jav is indeed a good point. Maybe a gamble, maybe not. You cornering woodNUFC Night2 when ravenvii slipped off the chopping block should be mentioned imho, also that you back'd off after his outing when (only in my subjective opinion of course) Sythas was even more suspicious. Silent Panda's last game was a lesson to me.
Let's wait for the doctor to arrive or present an even more convincing case.
Sorry, I always connect the Hunter with the insta-kill. Make it Bravosi then.
If our Maester acts and revives DP who could tell us if Tomorrow was indeed a special and ravenvii isn't neither the Maester nor part of the Maidens: they could tell - and there is at least one still alive for sure.
Does it make sense now?
BUT I also think we shouldn't revive DP. It would have been worth probably when he could tell the role of the Traitors, but like that doesn't make much sense, except that he's an exceptional player.
Yeah, I get that now. It would take 2 nights of DP living and scanning to be sure though (he'd need to scan both Pluto and Tomorrow) whereas 1 night of SS rescanning ravenvii would tell us the same thing. Neither are likely to live more than 1 night after resurrection. We also have the issue without him that if the Lord In Waiting is still alive then a traitor might be able to get away with claiming to be a special.Fair enough, Fenris.
Your vote for Jav is indeed a good point. Maybe a gamble, maybe not. You cornering woodNUFC Night2 when ravenvii slipped off the chopping block should be mentioned imho, also that you back'd off after his outing when (only in my subjective opinion of course) Sythas was even more suspicious. Silent Panda's last game was a lesson to me.
Let's wait for the doctor to arrive or present an even more convincing case.
Sorry, I always connect the Hunter with the insta-kill. Make it Bravosi then.
If our Maester acts and revives DP who could tell us if Tomorrow was indeed a special and ravenvii isn't neither the Maester nor part of the Maidens they could tell - and there is at least one still alive for sure.
Does it make sense now?
BUT I also think we shouldn't revive DP.
Are we decided we should definitely revive someone today? If so the Maester should come forward and let us know their alive. Traitors can't touch them until tonight and knowing who the Maester is gives us more to go on for votes and deciding who to revive.
Well, I thought he could also tell us the role of Jav immediately what could've helped even more. Scanning Tomorrow would almost be sufficent then, so that would have put him upon ss in my opinion, but this is obviously not going anywhere because I didn't get the rules straight.
Stop editing posts after I've quoted them! Yeah, agreed he is an exceptional player - it was a shame to lose him first night. And whilst I would love to have his insight into who he thinks is a traitor atm I'm torn as to whether that would be more useful than another scan.
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Agreed if he could have told us Jav's role that would have been useful - especially if Jav was Sneak (clearing all scans)Well, I thought he could also tell us the role of Jav immediately what could've helped even more. Scanning Tomorrow would almost be sufficent then, so that would have put him upon ss in my opinion, but this is obviously not going anywhere because I didn't get the rules straight.
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Potential Traitors
FenrisMoonlight: 4 rick snagwell, twietee, WoodNUFC, SilentPanda
comeagain?: 1 ravenvii
ucfgrad93: 1 Koodauw
jimN: 1 FenrisMoonlight
Yet to vote: Comeagain?, jimN, Roric, Moyank24, ucfgrad93, Sythas, Queen of Spades,
Accusations
Post 786 ravenvii accused comeagain?
Post 799 FenrisMoonlight accused Roric
Post 800 twietee accused jimN
Post 823 FenrisMoonlight accused jimN replacing previous accusation in post 799 for Roric
Post 826 rick snagwell accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 857 SilentPanda accused rick snagwell
Post 878 twietee accused FenrisMoonlight replacing previous accusation in post 800 for jimN
Post 879 WoodNUFC accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 881 SilentPanda accused FenrisMoonlight replacing previous accusation in post 857 for rick snagwell
Post 886 Koodauw accused ucfgrad93
FenrisMoonlight - Squire in service of the King's Justice
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Interesting list.
Fenris - is Loyal
Comeagain? - on my list - mostly late throw away votes - except when saving himself.
Sythas - on my list
ravenvii - could be sneak but not any other traitor
I also think it unlikely both Comeagain? and ravenvii are traitors.
Well, not to be misunderstood, ravenvii is most likely loyal. It's just that I don't understand his playing style (normally he'd be the GG or really quiet for whatever reason, studying I guess) and therefore am really cautious about him. Can't understand a couple of votes/posts of him this time. He could be either the Sneak or the Bought Man. But I wouldn't vote for him now of course!
Potential Traitors
FenrisMoonlight: 4 rick snagwell, twietee, WoodNUFC, SilentPanda
comeagain?: 1 ravenvii
ucfgrad93: 1 Koodauw
jimN: 1 FenrisMoonlight
Yet to vote: Comeagain?, jimN, Roric, Moyank24, ucfgrad93, Sythas, Queen of Spades,
Accusations
Post 786 ravenvii accused comeagain?
Post 799 FenrisMoonlight accused Roric
Post 800 twietee accused jimN
Post 823 FenrisMoonlight accused jimN replacing previous accusation in post 799 for Roric
Post 826 rick snagwell accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 857 SilentPanda accused rick snagwell
Post 878 twietee accused FenrisMoonlight replacing previous accusation in post 800 for jimN
Post 879 WoodNUFC accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 881 SilentPanda accused FenrisMoonlight replacing previous accusation in post 857 for rick snagwell
Post 886 Koodauw accused ucfgrad93
FenrisMoonlight - Squire in service to the King's Justice
FenrisMoonlight: 4 rick snagwell, twietee, WoodNUFC, SilentPanda
comeagain?: 1 ravenvii
ucfgrad93: 1 Koodauw
jimN: 1 FenrisMoonlight
Yet to vote: Comeagain?, jimN, Roric, Moyank24, ucfgrad93, Sythas, Queen of Spades,
Accusations
Post 786 ravenvii accused comeagain?
Post 799 FenrisMoonlight accused Roric
Post 800 twietee accused jimN
Post 823 FenrisMoonlight accused jimN replacing previous accusation in post 799 for Roric
Post 826 rick snagwell accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 857 SilentPanda accused rick snagwell
Post 878 twietee accused FenrisMoonlight replacing previous accusation in post 800 for jimN
Post 879 WoodNUFC accused FenrisMoonlight
Post 881 SilentPanda accused FenrisMoonlight replacing previous accusation in post 857 for rick snagwell
Post 886 Koodauw accused ucfgrad93
FenrisMoonlight - Squire in service to the King's Justice
I'm confused by your post. Are you saying that the only two people cleared (SilentPanda and WoodNUFC) + me who's at minimum 93,75% loyal are actually trying to detract suspicion from ourselves? You think SilentPanda and WoodNUFC are lying, why? To be fair, SilentPanda voted after your post but I still don't get your reasoning.
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If others do think it unlikely that Fenris is the RedMan, I'd change my vote to Comeagain?.
I don't fully understand why a series of people have outed themselves as specials. There appears to have been no value to WoodNUFC saying that they were special and Silent Panda has actually added no value through divulging their knowledge - apparently we have a couple of cleared players but none who were ever in the spot light.
I totally missed what Twietee claimed they were but, short of the remaining traitors playing an impressive bluffing game by claiming to be specials, it seems you guys are all out now and we'll lose your value very quickly if you now get picked off.
If we take you three at your word, it would seem you're just not the best players. Therefore, I'll vote for ufcgrad93 - they hopped on some early bandwagons, contribute very little in general and have managed to fly well below the radar. That's enough for me.
I totally missed what Twietee claimed they were but, short of the remaining traitors playing an impressive bluffing game by claiming to be specials, it seems you guys are all out now and we'll lose your value very quickly if you now get picked off.
If we take you three at your word, it would seem you're just not the best players. Therefore, I'll vote for ufcgrad93 - they hopped on some early bandwagons, contribute very little in general and have managed to fly well below the radar. That's enough for me.