[WW] - They Live?! - GAME OVER - Villagers win!

[twietee]

Ravenvii has been pretty quiet since being placed on the baddie list.

Alright, seems like I'm a goner so might as well go on record with my original hunch ravenvii from day 1.

And lol, if you two are so certain of each other being innocent without being the NW, mo and qos.
Jav, I see your reasoning about ss, but she wouldn't be a lone wolf anyway so DPs 'survival' means little regarding that imo.

If the NW isn't on full force on this one I'd really question QoS reasoning. I'm seemingly the easiest target of us four because I'm male (wtf!?)..

No ability to prove my innocence either.

 

[Sythas]

...twietee is a women, when will everyone rememeber?

.... I'm male (wtf!?)....

Twietee is a male Rick

 

[Queen of Spades]

Okay guys, here we go.

I am the Seer. Plutonius is the Alpha WW with the Smoker power. So that's 1 wolf, and if we vote him out today, we likely don't deal with the infection. Which leaves 2 wolves.

Based on Koodauw's list, we know one more is among Moyank, twietee, and Scepticalscribe. I waited for a bit to see how the votes and behavior shook out before coming out, so we'd have more of a chance. My thinking is it's twietee, but either way we have a good shot of nailing two wolves very quickly with only a third to deal with.

I decided to come out now because the info I have is too valuable to die with, and I don't necessarily trust my ability to live long in this game from what I've seen thus far, especially in light of Koodauw's list.

Here's the evidence:

Pluto got majority locked already?

Early throwaway/day 1 vote.

Koodauw, I think Twietee is a guy .

My list

Moyank, QoS, tweitee, Sceptical Scribe

Everyone else

Moyank was the first vote for Jav and didn't change her vote.
QoS was the only vote for Twietee and didn't change her vote.
Twietee voted for Plutonius then switched his vote to ravenvii (third vote).
SS was the second vote for Jav and didn't change her vote.

SS so they all have at least one vote.

Why is Rick voting for "Don't Panic" ? Change your vote to one of the four people in Koodauw's question.

Moyank and I near the top - probably wouldn't put twietee last, to throw some suspicion.

Switching to Moyank for the tie.

Voting heat off twietee.

Moyank sorry, would have preferred ravenvii.

And following suit to save hide (normal reaction, but for context).

 

[twietee]

Brilliant call QoS!

Pluto

Looks really bad for me but still not a baddie here. Let's vote the Alpha off (crossing fingers he didn't pull off the infection already) and God save the Queen and scan twietee, maybe?

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And following suit to save hide (normal reaction, but for context).

To be fair, Moyank had one vote more than me by my vote change to her so it was self defence only. Didn't had a bad vibe from her either, which I expressed before, that's why I was 'sorry'.

I vote for Pluto almost every game day 1 (to change often afterwards) except he got voted for already, which happens quite often when Moyank beats me to it.

 

[jav6454]

Okay guys, here we go.

I am the Seer. Plutonius is the Alpha WW with the Smoker power. So that's 1 wolf, and if we vote him out today, we likely don't deal with the infection. Which leaves 2 wolves.

[...]

Well now, this is an interesting revelation. We have a self proclaimed oracle and Seer.

Both have given us thus far names to take into suspicion. One of them very blatantly, Plutonius.

Given this, I' not sure what to do. Not because I don't believe QoS, but due to the following. QoS stated she is fairly certain of Moyank's innocence. To be sure means she must have scanned Moyank and thus would know with absolute certainty. However, we get a Plutonius accusation. So in other words she would need to have scanned twice. That means it's either QoS and Moyank playing a smoke/bluff scheme to save one another, or QoS is part of the night watch and also a seer. Both of which outcomes are not 100% for me.

For now I'll rescind my vote. I need more information before proceeding and pulling a trigger on anyone.

 

[twietee]

And, just so that you know, I don't think baddies teaming up would play that way - especially with Pluto being the Alpha sticking his nose out that much. I would have been found out 100% during the next days.

scepticalscribe or Moyank it is then (unless our Seer got infected during the night..)

 

[Koodauw]

Plutonius is always a good person to vote for.

 

[twietee]

Given this, I' not sure what to do. Not because I don't believe QoS, but due to the following. QoS stated she is fairly certain of Moyank's innocence. To be sure means she must have scanned Moyank and thus would know with absolute certainty.

I think she saw my "connection" to Pluto and is/was absolutely sure I'd be a baddie so naturally trying to steer away from Mo into my direction. I believe her.

QoS, please hear me out, in my very first game I was a Seer too and luckily scanned Moyank as the Alpha at the very first night (Jav shot her btw). I was quite thrilled (understatement actually) but read too much into her conversations that Melrose finally red-flagged me because I got that suspicous of him. Anyway...good ol' times...

 

[Queen of Spades]

QoS, please hear me out, in my very first game I was a Seer too and luckily scanned Moyank as the Alpha at the very first night (Jav shot her btw). I was quite thrilled (understatement actually) but read too much into her conversations that Melrose finally red-flagged me because I got that suspicous of him. Anyway...good ol' times...

I understand - and believe me, I am open to suggestion. Sometimes you read things that are not there, and sometimes I get into this "well, if this is the obvious move, would they do the opposite? or would they do this move because I'd be thinking they wouldn't?" and I get into this circular occam's razor argument with myself and it makes me crazy.

That said, if the Guard is able to protect me tonight, I can get one more scan of the players left from Koodauw's trio and we can hopefully strike a decisive blow against the zombie bastards.

 

[Plutonius]

QoS is lying and I might be able to prove it. I know it doesn't prove I'm not a WW but, I have the blocker power (can block any activity). If anyone has a minor ability like adding time to a turn, I will block it showing that QoS is lying.

I also believe that Twietee isn't a WW based on his post and voting (other than him voting for me ).

and changing my vote to QoS.

 

[Queen of Spades]

QoS is lying and I might be able to prove it. I know it doesn't prove I'm not a WW but, I have the blocker power (can block any activity). If anyone has a minor ability like adding time to a turn, I will block it showing that QoS is lying.

I also believe that Twietee isn't a WW based on his post and voting (other than him voting for me ).

and changing my vote to QoS.

Well, you are right about one thing, I mistyped - you are a blocker, not smoker. But you are the Alpha WW. I admit, it's a valiant effort to save your skin. Almost brilliant, really.

Your defense of twietee actually clears him a little further, though, thank you for that. You know if you manage to save your skin with the blocker demo and we kill twietee, whoever you chose defend will need to be an innocent if you're to live any longer.

Though I would invite you to demonstrate your blocking power now.

 

[twietee]

My suggestion would be: lynch Pluto now, scan one of mo or ss. If the scan is positve (as in villager) insta-kill the other. If that one isn't a baddie I quit MR (and you guys could still lynch me). My guess would be ss, who retreated rather eloquently into more quiet territories..

 

[Queen of Spades]

My suggestion would be: lynch Pluto now, scan one of mo or ss. If the scan is positve (as in villager) insta-kill the other. If that one isn't a baddie I quit MR (and you guys could still lynch me). My guess would be ss, who retreated rather eloquently into more quiet territories..

Sounds like a plan. Except we may not necessarily have a Hunter, it's village exclusive, not village core. Otherwise I agree.

 

[Sythas]

So if plutonius is the Alpha, we have a good chance that we won't have any infected wolf with us right ?

 

[Queen of Spades]

So if plutonius is the Alpha, we have a good chance that we won't have any infected wolf with us right ?

That's the hope, anyway. They obviously could have chosen to do it night 1, but it's unorthodox.

Problem is if the Meddler/Maniac WW exists, an extra scan may not be possible. Still, the pool is much narrower than before.

 

[Moyank24]

My suggestion would be: lynch Pluto now, scan one of mo or ss. If the scan is positve (as in villager) insta-kill the other. If that one isn't a baddie I quit MR (and you guys could still lynch me). My guess would be ss, who retreated rather eloquently into more quiet territories..

We definitely lynch Pluto now.

If you're telling the truth, than the 2nd Zombie is SS and my "upside-down" comment to Pluto would prove to be true!

But I'm definitely down with being scanned. Getting the Alpha out of the way early and having a super narrow list left to find the 2nd makes things much, much easier! And once QOS is cleared (hopefully!) after the death of Pluto, it will be even narrower.

 

[Don't panic]

i don't have time to read everything now, but a seer claim to the alpha cannot be ingnored at this point, especially with infection at stake,
so Plutonius it is.

 

[TechGod]

Oh sure kick me out of the party, especially when it was about to get exciting!

*Quietly sobs in a corner*


But seriously, well done QOS!

 

[Koodauw]

Hopefully the hunter doesn't try and kill Pluto, since he has the blocking ability.

 

[Don't panic]

Hopefully the hunter doesn't try and kill Pluto, since he has the blocking ability.

if the hunter insta-kills pluto, he is dead, unless he [pluto] can guess who the hunter was before and blocked him/her.
however, he might try to block a random person just in case something good (for him) happens

 

[rick snagwell]

good work qos, pluto

 

[Koodauw]

if the hunter insta-kills pluto, he is dead, unless he [pluto] can guess who the hunter was before and blocked him/her.
however, he might try to block a random person just in case something good (for him) happens

Couldn't he just send in a PM and say block instakill?

I mean if your going to die, might as well right? Not that any of this really matters.

 

[Moyank24]

Couldn't he just send in a PM and say block instakill?

I mean if your going to die, might as well right? Not that any of this really matters.

According to the OP, it says the blocker can block the activity of one player - so it seems like he has to send in a player to block, not an ability.

 

[jav6454]

Couldn't he just send in a PM and say block instakill?

I mean if your going to die, might as well right? Not that any of this really matters.

It has to be a specific person. Assuming that person is the hunter.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Well done, QoS; Plutonius, then, whom I had hardly noticed at all.

I have been quiet for a number of reasons, not least that I am in a different (very different) time zone and my work week includes what is the week end in the western world, which means full working days on Saturday and Sunday. And there is a real political crisis brewing - which it is my responsibility to keep an eye on - in the country where I am currently working.