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Though I don't entirely agree with your opinion, you're making a good point.

In the world of computers, when someone posts that Apple should really a $499 laptop or a $299 desktop running a full version of OS X that would sell so quickly they'd have to double the staff at most Apple Stores, they're immediately shot down and told that it would be a bad idea because 1) it would cannibalize margins 2) Apple wants to create a prestige product and doesn't need sales from Joe Walmart and his family and 3) it would sacrifice QC and production quality too much.

When the same thing happens with the phone - as it's doing now - it's suddenly the best thing since sliced bread.

What gives?

Joe Walmart...I love it. Its describes my entire city. KC

ROTFL
 
Developer or not we want WOW

Any such MacBook update will come later in the year or at Macworld. Frankly, you should have known better that WWDC is NOT about consumers. It is a DEVELOPER CONFERENCE. The ONLY reason Apple even released the new iPhone at WWDC is because the iPhone is just that... a platform for developers. It's the same reason WWDC has also been used to launch the Mac Pro and new Xserve.

Listen, i want WOW i want WOW!!! I don't want boring!!!!! Apple is in the Spotlight, developer conference or not...they need to wow wow wow and make me have an apple party not BORE me senseless with BORING apps!!!

Might download the speech tonight to send me to sleep
 
Apple Stumbles

Blame the fans, blame the media, but in the end... blame Apple for not responding to the fanbase.

After a long buildup, Steve Jobs walks into a SRO theatre and proceeds to bore the bread and butter. Sure, the WWDC is supposed to be directed to developers, but Apple has a huge and rabid group of fans who drool over the smallest rumors - and it's time for Apple to start responding to rumors and user demands.

1) The iPhone. A year late, and finally priced right, the 3G iPhone is ready for Prime Time - except, it's not. Despite the pictures of mystery boxes to be delivered, despite the canceled vacations of AT&T employees to handle the rush, my next phone is not yet in stores. Didn't they see this coming? But, Apple's recent stumbles are not limited to the minor updates of a phone, there are more.

2) The Apple Eee. Prior to the unveiling of the thin Air, the rumor mills churned about 12 inch MacBooks, or Mac Pads or Newton: The Next Generation. Instead, we got a laptop so thin, it can cut things. Like cake. Or fingers.

Instead, ASUS and others have dropped mini notebooks into stores like paratroopers on D-Day. Tiny form factor, just enough battery and power to do the basics, and all for the cost of the Apple Time Capsule. Where is Apple's version of the Eee? No doubt the Eee, Dell's mini Inspiron and the other wanna-bees will all die a quick and painful death when Apple finally releases their pad - but how long? Why do were continue to hear of other new mini notebooks, swamping the market, spawning from the smallest of companies - yet Apple has nothing, other than an overpriced, under powered, storage lacking cake knife.

3) The Mini. More rumors, of it's death, and revitalization. The mini is the Mac I want to buy for Mom. But, not with that 950 graphics chip, thank you. For that price, I can get a (PC) notebook, or Dell machine with the new 3100 graphics, larger hard drives and more. Sure, that's risking exposure to Vista, but Mom doesn't care.

4) The screenless iMac. I'm sorry - but I can't wrap my head around the idea of having my computer welded to my screen. What happens when the screen needs to be replaced? Or I want a bigger size? Nope - I'm stuck at 20 inches of screen that may or may not be a good display. I'd love to plug a Mac into my 19 inch Samsung while I save my pennies for a 30 inch monitor. I'd pay a grand, maybe a grand and a half, for a mac that did that, as long as it had a decent video card. But to make the leap to a Mac Pro - I can't justify that purchase.

I hate to say it, but you need to look at Dell. Okay, HP if you must. You can get a basic dual core machine, with 3 gigs of Ram, lots of drive space, a non-intel graphics cards and the usual gaggle of ports, buttons and knobs that would do you fine for a long time, if not hindered by Vista. Hook up a monitor and you're good to go. Where is the BYOM(onitor) version of the iMac?

So, bookending the point of this, as Apple grows in popularity and branches out into the real world by introducing staid business types to the Mac culture through the iPhone, they need to look around and REACT to what others are doing. The world wanted 3G a year ago - they made us wait. The world wanted the next 12 inch iBook - we go the Air. It's thin.

Some of the world wanted an iChat phone. We got... thinner. And GPS a year late.

Now, a chunk of the world wants a Eee-Style-Atom-Powered-Pocket-Macbook. Will Apple knock that out of the park and show us something we didn't realize we couldn't live without?

Hope so.
 
For many reasons...

The 'new' iPhone is simply a poor 'catch up'. The apps are boring and trivial - a phone is to make calls and nowadays to take photos / videos. The camera on the iPhone is an absolute JOKE.

What SHOULD have happened:

iPhone

- Partnering with optics company for a new camera comparable or BETTER than the Nokia N95 8GB phone / N96
- Flickr integration with camera
- Custom navigation software using inbuilt GPS (Drive / Walk like Nokia's new 'maps'
- Front camera for ichat / other IM
- Skype for iPhone

Others launches should have been:

- Aluminium MacBook with enhanced chipset, backlit keyboard and option to have graphics card

This is a REAL let down from Apple...unbelievably bad. I feel like crying

The front facing camera will probably be a 3rd or 4th gen feature. Outside of capacity improvements, where would the iPhone evolve to? I do think it would be a neat feature but only other iPhone users could take advantage of it - I can see why Apple waited on this one.

Skype on the iPhone would royally piss off all the carriers that have agreed to carry the iPhone, probably will never be blessed by Apple.

Flickr integration will probably happen - Flickr (or some 3rd party) just needs to write the program for it - Flickr already has a decent API/web service. This is only a matter of time and Apple will let a 3rd party do that leg work.

Custom map software: again, this will be left to third party developers whose skill set and expertise are in the GPS mapping software business. Google maps, while crappy compared to Garmin or TomTom units, is free. I imagine 3rd party software from these makers are inevitable - but they will cost at a minimum $100.

Better cameras? Really? I'm not in the optics industry so I don't know what the state is for quality versus price but if you want more than what the iPhone offers, use a real camera. At some point there's going to have to be a trade off between lens size and camera size and I think 99 times out of 100 the manufacturer will opt on the size of the unit overall.
 
Hilarious.

All the minimum wage-earning, fly-by-night Apple bandwagon jumpers are ecstatic...just read all their positive comments and feedback!!

All the true Apple connaisseurs who wanted more, demanded more, expected more...and who were willing to pay more for the priviledge are pissed!!

Way to be an elitist *******. Go f*** yourself.
 
Hilarious.

All the minimum wage-earning, fly-by-night Apple bandwagon jumpers are ecstatic...just read all their positive comments and feedback!!

All the true Apple connaisseurs who wanted more, demanded more, expected more...and who were willing to pay more for the priviledge are pissed!!
F***ING BINGO.

thats your own fault for wanting to have the latest and greatest, quit crying. YOUR OWN FAULT. how long did you expect the iphone to not be upgraded? especially when apple said "a 3g iphone is coming" are you asinine or really that retarded? maybe your lack of logic is why you work at a minimum wage earning job.
 
Others launches should have been:

- Aluminium MacBook with enhanced chipset, backlit keyboard and option to have graphics card

Let me translate: "Wah, wah, I want a Macbook Pro but can't afford it wah wah wah"
 
Where is a revised MB or MBP where is a MBA with Atom in it?

Why would you put an Atom in a Mac??

An atom is half the speed of a Celeron. This is where that is in Intels line up:

Atom < Celeron < Celeron Dual Core < Pentium Dual Core < Core 2 Duo < Core 2 Quad < Core 2 Extreme < Xeon

ARM Cortex A9 Quad Core processors offer 4-8x the perfomance at less than half the power consumption. Gimme that!
 
I'll take fries with that order...

I think you can only be considered a connoisseur if you can spell it.

...spoken like a true minimum wage earner!! But you got my point, right? So stop splittin' hairs, dude. Focus on the issue at hand.

Oh yeah one more thing...enjoy your brand, spankin' new PLASTIC iphone 3G. I think you'll look so cute with it!!
 
Hi guys,

First time posting here, I live in the netherlands, and until 1h ago there was no news about the iphone comming here....

This is what can be seen now on the T-Mobile.nl website

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Its just to subscribe to a newsletter.

Does anyone know if the US version will be Sim Lock FREE, or unlockable as easy as the Iphone 2.5G is?
 
Cry Babies

I think even if the phone came with ichat, MMS and video recorder yall would still complain about something else. People complaining about the App Store you must not have seen Keynote. Theres not a Treo, Blackberry, Touch, or any other touchscreen device that these app can run on. I was privileged to watch the keynote live because where i work and its amazing. Can't wait til everyone else can see it if they post it.
 
..spoken like a true minimum wage earner!! But you got my point, right? So stop splittin' hairs, dude. Focus on the issue at hand.

Oh yeah one more thing...enjoy your brand, spankin' new PLASTIC iphone 3G. I think you'll look so cute with it!!



hmm are not like 99% of the phones made here made of plastic?
 
So... Is what was formerly called the "iPhone OS" now "OS X iPhone?" Why didn't they reverse the phrasing to "iPhone OS X?"

To make it easier for Europeans to understand;)

...I wanted video conferencing, that would definitley make me upgrade, not a little more speed and gps

Until the contract with AT&T is up, video conferencing is considered a potential cannibalizing feature toward minutes used. Guess, we'll have to wait until iPhone3.

what a let down. NO 32gb, no camera-improvement, no copy and paste.!

The thinner design would be compromised with 32G, (at this time) as would the inclusion of a 5 megapixel camera. Copy and paste will soon be available through third party software.
 
Man, all of these complaints make ME hate Apple fanboys. I can see how some people are disappointed, but overall I feel it was a decent to good update.

Apple doesn't owe you any new MacBooks or MacBook Pros. Apple does what it wants, when it wants. When you realize that, you will be much happier.
 
...despite the glitzy presentation and all the supposedly neauvaux features (both of which are debatable lol) the only thing Apple guaranteed today was a lower grade of consumer buying its product.

Period.

And what exactly makes you a higher grade of consumer?
 
Listen, i want WOW i want WOW!!! I don't want boring!!!!! Apple is in the Spotlight, developer conference or not...they need to wow wow wow and make me have an apple party not BORE me senseless with BORING apps!!!

Might download the speech tonight to send me to sleep
But again, you're missing the point. Apple doesn't advertise WWDC the way they advertise Macworld because it's not for Joe Q. Public. They'd find it boring, just as you do. But to developers, this is a big deal. No longer are they crippled with web apps, they have access to the entirety of the iPhone platform. This is big. Now we can finally see "real" iPhone applications. And, plus, now they have a new iPhone with improved 3G speeds, GPS, etc. Now there can be a multitude of location-centric applications.

Again, WWDC =/= consumers. That's what the Macworld conference is for.
 
Is that it !!!!!

Don't get me wrong i love my current unlocked iphone. I was looking forward to iphone 2, but i still find it hard to believe that we still are missing the following basic function.

1 MMS
2 Forward SMS
3 Full bluetooth
4 Cut Copy

3G s god but its a year late
GPS don't care
And where is all the MAC stuff, i thought this used be a computer company
 
Wish I could keep my aluminum back. But all in all:

Aps sound out of this world; GP(ye)S; Thinner (I can keep my Vaja case); and Faster downloads.

That was JUNE 11th, right?

Hope there's a financially friendly upgrade procedure.
 
...spoken like a true minimum wage earner!! But you got my point, right? So stop splittin' hairs, dude. Focus on the issue at hand.

Oh yeah one more thing...enjoy your brand, spankin' new PLASTIC iphone 3G. I think you'll look so cute with it!!

Only true minimum wage earners can spell French-derived words?

I know that you think your little nouveau riche values make you superior, but you're wrong.

I'm not sure if you're directly addressing me with the comment about the plastic iPhone, but you're assuming that I'm going to buy it. I may, and I may not. Regardless, if I do buy it, I'll make the decision based on whether or not I'll enjoy it and find the features useful. I'm not going to act like a little girl and buy it for status alone.

If you're so concerned about obtaining societal status from a phone, then there are plenty of options available. Buy one of the phones designed by haute couture company. Or do you not have the money to spend on those?
 
I think even if the phone came with ichat, MMS and video recorder yall would still complain about something else. People complaining about the App Store you must not have seen Keynote. Theres not a Treo, Blackberry, Touch, or any other touchscreen device that these app can run on. I was privileged to watch the keynote live because where i work and its amazing. Can't wait til everyone else can see it if they post it.

MMS and video recording can be solved with third party apps. iChat will be addressed once the AT&T exclusivity contract is expired. A great update, overall, with the potential to grow continuously and exponentially. The Keynote will be available after 5:00 PM EDT.
 
Don't get me wrong i love my current unlocked iphone. I was looking forward to iphone 2, but i still find it hard to believe that we still are missing the following basic function.

1 MMS
2 Forward SMS
3 Full bluetooth
4 Cut Copy

3G s god but its a year late
GPS don't care
And where is all the MAC stuff, i thought this used be a computer company
Sigh... For the third time, WWDC is not historically the place for hardware updates. Going by the past year or so, we've seen iPod updates in September, desktop updates in August and notebook updates in May. Plus, Macworld is the conference for consumers. That's where we see new and improved hardware releases.

Apple is not just a computer company. They are a hardware company that manufactures digital electronics. Do you really think Mac OS X saved Apple? No, the iPod did.
 
I think even if the phone came with ichat, MMS and video recorder yall would still complain about something else. People complaining about the App Store you must not have seen Keynote. Theres not a Treo, Blackberry, Touch, or any other touchscreen device that these app can run on. I was privileged to watch the keynote live because where i work and its amazing. Can't wait til everyone else can see it if they post it.

I'm with you dude. I bought an 8GB last fall, got ahold of a 16GB the day they came out, and will be getting a 3G as soon as they become available. I don't feel ripped off. I made these choices. Apple didn't force me into anything, and I have no complaints.

I just hope most people out there are unsatisfied with this release, because it means I'll just get mine without waiting in a huge line.
 
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