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Thank god I waited... 3G and GPS were the functions I wanted before switching. I feel bad for everyone who dropped 600 dollars on an iPhone thinking they'd get good value selling them used. I think a 2G iPhone is probably going to be worth 80 dollars on craigslist, tops. :(

I sold my iphone for 400 last week. My blackberry 8830 will just have to do till the 11th. I had a strong feeling i wold be happy if i sold it ahead of time. Good thing i did.
 
MMS and video recording can be solved with third party apps. iChat will be addressed once the AT&T exclusivity contract is expired. A great update, overall, with the potential to grow continuously and exponentially. The Keynote will be available after 5:00 PM EDT.

You realize the reason why iChat wasn't debuted today was because of the Push Notification System they just announced and won't be ready until September. An IM applicaiton IS coming, the system just isn't in place for it right now.
 
Of course it will. When syncing your iPhone in iTunes, it will say "a new software update is available," which will be 2.0.

It will be free on the iPhone and be pre-loaded on all new iPhone. It will cost $9.95 on the iPod touch but should also be pre-loaded on all new iPod touch.

thats cool

i have a 1.1.4, when i upgrade it o 2.0 will i have GPS, or the gps thing will be only on the 3G iphone?
 
so I went to the apple store to see what they were going to include in the price. For 199, you know apple is going to not include a few parts.

It seems like they are not including the dock stand. I love that thing and so I'll need to buy one when I get my 3G Iphone. The problem that I have is that because they changed the size, the old iphone dock will only work for the old iphone. Kinda bummer.

I hope my friend will still buy the 2g iphone for 100 bucks. (PRAYS)
 
You realize the reason why iChat wasn't debuted today was because of the Push Notification System they just announced and won't be ready until September. An IM applicaiton IS coming, the system just isn't in place for it right now.

What is this PUSH NOTIFICATION SYSTEM they are talking about?
 
Because there's not a device like the iPhone implementing it, that's why. It would bring it mainstream.

Sorry, but if our horribly self-obsessed cell phone culture turned into a bunch of people yelling into their phones on a video conference at Starbucks I'd open a vein--and not necessarily mine.
 
While people talking about 3G, FYI - 3G is only available in metropolitan area and there surrounding cities. Outside that. 2.5G(EGDE).....I'm with the other guy. Apple doesn't hype anything, so why diss them??? Who uses video chat in the US?? Maybe I got broke friend and associates and I'm in Austin, TX, a technology town and I never seen anybody using video chat...
For now... This is changing. At least with AT&T, the 3G network is growing and will continue to grow stronger and stronger. Chances are good that most people who are buying the iPhone already live in metropolitan areas where 3G access is available. Almost every major city has at least some 3G network.
 
Some of the replies on this topic are ridiculous.

Apple don't owe you anything; it's called capitalism, economics, supply and demand. If you bought your iphone for nearly $600 last year and it's now worth $75, too bad. That's the way it is with disposable items such as mobile phones.

Apple's share price is going to keep going up and up if they continue to do the things they are doing: appealing to a mass market. They don't care that you helped the company get where you are today because you've been buying Apple products since 1984. They care about the millions of people who will be turned onto Apple products with this new launch. When millions more people have iphones, millions more will consider switching to Mac computers. Pretty good strategy if you ask me. They have a fiduciary duty to shareholders, and they will make good on that duty, have no doubt. If that means p'ing some geeks off, tough luck.

I wish I'd bought Apple shares today, as they are going to shoot up tomorrow.
 
Folks, nothing's changed!

This is classic Apple Butthole-ology (in layman's terms): release LESS than what you expect, reap a maximum profit from it, then upgrade that same product 6 months later with all the features you expect and demand and deserve....at a premium price!!!

Relax. Be patient. This is what they do. This is how they operate.

who are you? steve ballmer?
 
Because there's not a device like the iPhone implementing it, that's why. It would bring it mainstream.

So why bash it for not having it? Steve turned this company around, so I trust what he is doing. Steve was the first to take 3.5 floppy disk away and look now no computer comes with them. Maybe he's trying to do away with MMS so people can email...
 
Seriously, dude...I don't usually even respond to people like you. I just let you have your say and move on---yanno, like civilized people are supposed to do!! No, seriously. No reply necessary. And if you can't be man (or it is transgender?) enough to do so, then I will! Watch n see. When you reply to this comment I won't respond back. Watch.

Bwahahaha... Do you not see the irony in your post? You reply to him then have the temerity/gall to call him out if he replies back to your post... Are you trying to get the last laugh?
 
if you look many of us are asking for OLD technology that was available on smartphones in 1999.

Exactly.

When the iPhone was released last year, the software and touch interface is what set it apart. The hardware was relatively lackluster for a high end mobile phone.

Here we are one year later, and we're barely at the hardware level we should have been at upon launch. GPS and 3G? How old are those technologies?

Because there's not a device like the iPhone implementing it, that's why. It would bring it mainstream.

Now this is a good point.

For once, Apple has the opportunity to not play catch up with the iPhone and instead pioneer something that isn't found in every cell phone at every corner store, and they passed on it so they could cut the cost.

This is why Apple's stock is down on the day.
 
Sorry, but if our horribly self-obsessed cell phone culture turned into a bunch of people yelling into their phones on a video conference at Starbucks I'd open a vein--and not necessarily mine.

I dont go to starbuck..Is that where rich people hang?
 
thats cool

i have a 1.1.4, when i upgrade it o 2.0 will i have GPS, or the gps thing will be only on the 3G iphone?

No - there's no GPS chip in current iPhones so a firmware update can't add that functionality. You'll still get all the "location" services but it'll use the (much less) accurate triangulation that's currently implemented.
 
Well,

I'm a little dissapointed.

- No Front camera for video calls
- Same old rubbish 2MP camera
- No Flash
- No Video Recording
- No MMS Support
- Not much thinner at all
- No more memory
-

I love my current iPhone and this doesn't do anything to make me wanna buy one. The locate feature is already good, so i'm not that excited about GPS!

Lack of a front side camera is due to AT&T's fear of Skype - we'll have to wait until iPhone3.

Flash - compromises battery life and streamlined appearance.

Video Recording - solved with third party apps.

MMS support - solved with third party apps.

it is Thinner, and lighter as well.

Enough memory - mobileme begins to solve the need for carrying everything with you.

New apps utilizing GPS will make it more exciting and useful.
 
So why bash it for not having it? Steve turned this company around, so I trust what he is doing. Steve was the first to take 3.5 floppy disk away and look now no computer comes with them. Maybe he's trying to do away with MMS so people can email...



What is MMS but a pushed multimedia email?!?!

Christ... it can't be this obvious.......
 
So why bash it for not having it? Steve turned this company around, so I trust what he is doing. Steve was the first to take 3.5 floppy disk away and look now no computer comes with them. Maybe he's trying to do away with MMS so people can email...



What is MMS but a pushed multimedia email?!?!

Christ... it can't be this obvious.......
 
Some of the replies on this topic are ridiculous.

Apple don't owe you anything; it's called capitalism, economics, supply and demand. If you bought your iphone for nearly $600 last year and it's now worth $75, too bad. That's the way it is with disposable items such as mobile phones.

Apple's share price is going to keep going up and up if they continue to do the things they are doing: appealing to a mass market. They don't care that you helped the company get where you are today because you've been buying Apple products since 1984. They care about the millions of people who will be turned onto Apple products with this new launch. When millions more people have iphones, millions more will consider switching to Mac computers. Pretty good strategy if you ask me. They have a fiduciary duty to shareholders, and they will make good on that duty, have no doubt. If that means p'ing some geeks off, tough luck.

I wish I'd bought Apple shares today, as they are going to shoot up tomorrow.
Is this why their stock is down more than 4% today?
 
ok, what if i'm not trying to DIAL the number (not even discussing the other myriad of uses for copy/paste)? for instance, in business, many emails go something like "do you have so and so's contact info?" It's a staple of doing business. and what is a "smartphone" if not a mobile, business/personal networking device? keeping you in touch at all times. yet it STILL cannot do one key thing that, reiterating, their main competition has been able to do for several years!

in no way, shape or form in the year 2008 should i have to MEMORIZE ANY INFO on my "SMARTphone". never.

It's a lot of work, takes about 30 minutes. Here's what you do (and I do every day, and boy I never thought to post on a forum crying like you did).

Tap the number, as soon as the dialing screen comes up, hang up. Then go into recent calls, tap the arrow next to the number, add to new contact. Viola!

See? And I could do that 5 times in the time it took to write this damned post.
 
The price of the hardware, yes, but we still have no idea what the carriers will do. For all we know, AT&T may increase their data plan from $20/month to $40/month.

So we are in agreement that the price of the phone went down? Good.
 
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