WWDC 2020: Complete Transcript of Apple's Keynote with iOS 14, macOS Big Sur, and More

[DEMinSoCAL]

Tim literally said the whole transition is expected to take 2 years.

Intel macOS updates for "years to come" could mean 2 years.

What? Everyone with an Intel Mac product just supposed to suddenly no longer be supported with new OS or app updates? Unlikely.

Imagine the used market for intel-based Macbooks and iMacs! No one will want them! SELL NOW!

 

[edon]

it is macOS 11.0. Not 10.16.

 

[clukas]

There is no iPhone release ?

iPhones are generally updated in September.

 

[Skeptical.me]

when will the beta's be released?

 

[illuminate3]

Damn, currently own a 16inch MacBook Pro. Does it mean I need to get a new one in 2 years.....

 

[Metrosey]

Why is it when he started up the Apache server, it stated it was running Intel Mac OS X 10_16?

 

[DesertNomad]

I see you remember the PPC-Intel transition era as well.

Apple dropped PPC as quickly as they could. I’m holding off on buying a new mac until the first Arm-models ship.

And the 68K to PPC.

 

[cmaier]

Because no one in their right mind spends thousands of dollars just to have the chance to be uncertain about a product's long-term functionality?

Yes, that’s why you shouldn’t buy an intel mac.

 

[JPack]

I see you remember the PPC-Intel transition era as well.

Apple dropped PPC as quickly as they could. I’m holding off on buying a new mac until the first Arm-models ship.

There are too many people here dreaming about Intel being supported for years to come.

When Apple does a transition, it's quick. They don't have two minds about it.

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

Damn, currently own a 16inch MacBook Pro. Does it mean I need to get a new one in 2 years.....

Yes, and sell me your current one for pennies on the dollar since it will be worthless by then!

 

[yurc]

At this situation, I smell current 2019 Mac Pro would face similar fate like G5 PPC.

 

[Rellypatricio]

I'm dropping the jailbreak just for the beta. iOS 14 looks SOOOOO good.

whete!?! 🙃

 

[Gerdi]

I think in terms of VM support, things will be fine, it felt more like an omission by way of marketing vs. capability.

Right, there is no reason to assume that it will not run Windows in a VM. I mean i can run Windows under KVM under Linux today.

 

[cmaier]

So literally iOS 14 could be 13.7 and it wouldn't skip a beat. This was mediocre at best. I can share watch faces now? WOW. Tons of conversation enhancements that won't mean anything if one Android user is in the group. RCS Messages? No?

Jeebus. Every major thing people have demanded for years is in there. Default apps. Phone ringing doesnt take full screen. Widgets on home screen. New ways to organize home screen. Threaded messages.

You really thought they would add support for the insecure RCS message technology that even google admits is a failure?

 

[naturalstar]

This was a huge and very important keynote but I’m calling it already....people on these forums and social media Will spend all their time complaining about macOS UI redesign.

Most likely. It was definitely a weak point.

However, the overall event was well done and full of really nice updates, glad I was able to watch this.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

Okay. I didn’t know what to expect today oh how this would all work. But wow. My verdict: I like this event BETTER that way. This was much more interesting than one boring stage, waiting for people to shuffle on and off it, dealing with the inevitable things that don’t go as planned. It was just more cohesive. I liked it!

 

[jmgregory1]

Certainly makes sense why their recent MacBook (Air and Pro) updates have been underwhelming. No sense focusing on trying to make big improvements when the real improvement will be switching to Apple Silicon. I’m actually really excited to see what Apple does controlling their own chips for desktop and laptop use. Imagine the benefits they’re going to get from the ability of their chips to be both hugely powerful and power efficient at the same time. Battery life should jump as will processing power.

 

[deeddawg]

There is no iPhone release ?

We're in June, not September.

 

[justperry]

I found it to be boring from the point Tim showed up right up until they announced Apple silicon.
The prelude towards the beginning with a globe view with Memoji's and beautiful music was well done.
Then came the boring part, as I said until they announced Apple silicon, exiting times coming.

Big sur MacOS 11 (Wow..didn't see that coming)...not too exited about BS, pun intended

 

[TheKDub]

There are too many people here dreaming about Intel being supported for years to come.

When Apple does a transition, it's quick. They don't have two minds about it.

That's what I'm trying to decide what to do. I was very pleased that my 2013 MBP lasted me 7 years, and decided to drop $2k on the 2020 MBP that just arrived 2 days ago and I was planning to keep it for another 7 years. Something tells me that my purchase lifespan was cut by at least half. The PPC to Intel transition only lasted 2 years or so

 

[lunarworks]

I think it was effective without disclosing the next gen AS (since they were showing everything on ARM 12 as far as I know).

The fact that they had everything running on a SoC designed for the iPad was impressive. With active cooling and plug-in power they can design an SoC that can absolutely blow it away.

 

[starzebra]

Why would anyone buying a computer from the most valuable company in the world, and that has a history of supporting hardware longer than anyone else in the industry, be concerned about its long term functionality?

I'd go for an intel Mac (or, I should say, went for an intel Mac about a month ago) over an ARM Mac...I'd just be too skittish about the newness of the technology...

 

[ramallite]

"We still have Intel-based Macs in the pipeline"....

Tim only flippantly said this once, whereas Steve Jobs emphasized this about PowerPC-based Macs 2–3 times back in 2005 during the Intel transition announcement. However, the only worthy PowerPC-based Mac that came out after the 2005 keynote was a new PowerMac G5 (there may have been some other minor upgrades to other products but nothing worth skipping the wait for). The MacBook Pro had gone Intel by January 2006, and it was a much faster transition after that point.

I bought a PowerMac G5 just 2 months before the Intel announcement in 2005. By 2009, MacOS Snow Leopard was out and it supported only Intel Macs. So I couldn't run the latest operating system on a 4-year-old Mac. In contrast, I can still run Catalina on my 2012 retina MacBook Pro (probably the last OS to run on it). That's double the time.

 

[Tozovac]

MacOS is getting more dumbed down.

That’s been my major beef. Expecting iOS/OS to do more and more while the makeup artists keep making it look more svelte, flat, transparent, and detail-light. Even if personal preference, I miss detailed-design “lickable” stoplight controls that looked polished and perfected instead of Fisher Price basic, which reflected an overall sense of fine craftsmanship instead of Johnny Amateur vague unpolished minimalism. At some point, “intentional design” has to return and dethrone “flat vague design.”

 

[rwxx]

There are too many people here dreaming about Intel being supported for years to come.

When Apple does a transition, it's quick. They don't have two minds about it.

I think it might be a bit different this time. They aren't going to release new Intel Macs this year and then drop support for Intel in two years. They were quite vague about how long Intel would be supported, though. I would have preferred a solid commitment to supporting Intel Macs for "at least X years from the release of out first A-Series Macs."