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I think a Mac line of ARM processors might get another letter to differentiate them from the iOS line. Possibly B as it is sequential after A, or M for Mac.

I doubt we would get the same processor in both, even though it would be built on the same architecture. Unless they put multiple processors in a Mac. OS X would probably need new code to share out the load automatically if that happens.
We already have M in iPhones and iPads, they will just make it an x at the end.
 
The day Apple (i.e. Jonathan Ive) uses Neue Helvetica properly is the day I'll upgrade to iOS 7 or 8 or 9 or 10.... It's too thin against that background! Get a clue. (I know, I know, who cares about readability and legibility as long as it's trendy!) I guess we can kiss that Macintosh User Interface Guide goodbye forever.
More font thickness or even shading won't help much, but a lighter backgound will.
 
i wouldnt be surprised if its only running apps approved via closed partnerships like nike and other obvious choices in the first gen.

That seems to me like it would be a bad call. With Samsung entering the field (arguably already in), Apple need to make a big splash in order to really claim big marketshare from the beginning.

Custom apps are key to that as it can often convince a customer to make a purchase e.g. it's not natively included, but that feature you want is possible by downloading an app.
 
If you guys want to know what OS X 10.10 is going to look like just take a look the WWDC Schedule page! :apple:

https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/schedule/

Some of the event to be announced titles:

No Comment
This One Is Sealed
Shhhh, Can't Tell You Yet
It’s Under Wraps
To Be Announced
Still Our Secret
You’ll Find Out in a Few Days
It's Still Confidential
It's Confidential
We’re Not Telling
You’ll Never Guess This One
We Still Really Can't Say
You're Just Going to Have to Wait a Little Longer
We'd Really Love To Tell You
It’s Still Under Wraps
This One's a Doozy
We’re Not Telling Yet
We Really Can't Talk About It Yet
No Comment on This One
Wouldn’t You Like to Know
We’re Not Quite Ready to Share
This One Is Still Under Lock and Key
It's Going to Be Great
This One Is Still Under Lock and Key
Don't Even Try Guessing What This One is About
All in Due Time
Hang in There a Little Bit Longer
Good Things Come to Those Who Wait
We Have to Keep This Quiet Still
Our Lips Are Sealed on This One
This One's Very Cool
The Suspense is Building
Bet You Can’t Wait to Know
Our Lips Are Sealed

Apple sure has a sense of humour.
 
Love the idea, hate the name lol :D

Me too, but I was trying to keep a Hobbit theme, and didn't think Frodo would fly, and that the last thing Apple wanted to do was name any of their products "Sam" anything! :p

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The day Apple (i.e. Jonathan Ive) uses Neue Helvetica properly is the day I'll upgrade to iOS 7 or 8 or 9 or 10.... It's too thin against that background! Get a clue. (I know, I know, who cares about readability and legibility as long as it's trendy!) I guess we can kiss that Macintosh User Interface Guide goodbye forever.

Right?!

iOS 7 : It may be garishly colored, low contrasted, and hard to read, but at least its ugly!
 
It is much harder with dual CPU:s than it is with dual GPU:s. ARM and X86 have 2 completely different instruction sets so the future OS X would need to have 2 kernel modes or emulation of one instruction set or some other clever trickery, it can be done but way harder than 2 different GPU:s.
No you're not getting it.

The A8 would be the default operating mode, and run iOS apps. (Actually the A7 is already more powerful, with higher GeekBench scores, than the perfectly fine 2009 MacBook c2d 2.2ghz I'm typing this on.) Most iOS apps will come up instantly - iOS MS Office, Mail, small games, videos, iMovie etc. Most non-power users would stay in this mode more or less all the time, with limited access to the file system.

When a demanding app is launched eg FCPX, Creative Studio, Photoshop etc or a heavy game, or Windows in emulation or a power user wants the OSX ecosystem then the Arm brings in the Intel chip to deal with that side of matters.

So I'm guessing that work will be divided between the two chips on a per-app basis, with iOS apps running on the Arm and OSX apps running on the Intel. As to the core underlying OS, I have no idea, but it would make sense to minimise the weight of the OS so as an educated guess the default will be the Arm, and elements of OSX will only be activated as necessary to support OSX apps / as desired by power users.

Some work would be needed to sort out the glue between the two sides, but the two OSes already have similar underlying filesystems and roots. iOS devs could continue writing code and updating their apps like nothing's changed, and ditto for OSX devs.
 
You're thinking of the current known A7. How about what might be under wraps like a multicore A8 or A9 that could run circles around an A7. Enough to easily power OSX 10.10.

Not picking on just you (but all seeming to crave a switch from Intel to ARM): were you guys not around for the last CPU switch (from PowerPC to Intel)? Last few days, I've seen people spinning "just recompile", "click as little as one button to recompile" et all. Then, there's this sentiment that an A8 or A9 is going to be a major upgrade of power vs. Intel chips. And there's this other sentiment of 8, 16, 32 cores in an A8 or A9 vs. only 4 or 8 or 12 cores in Intel (as if all the software that doesn't even use 4 cores that well will suddenly maximize 8 or 16 or 32). I've seen some indifference about major software being evolved by suggesting "we'll just use the iOS versions" (yikes!!!). My favorite is from those spinning how such a switch is going to result in lower-to-much-lower prices of Macs because this CPU will be much cheaper than an Intel CPU for Apple (because Apple is known for dramatically dropping prices rather than just enjoying the added margin).

I was around for the PowerPC to Intel migration and it wasn't pretty. Are we forgetting how long it took for even some of the bigger software houses to evolve their programs out of requiring Rosetta to run? Are we forgetting how many important programs just did not get updated, requiring Rosetta and then having no good (Mac-side) replacement when Apple decided to deprecate Rosetta?

Are we dismissing the value of newcomers to Macs being that they are the ONLY (non-hack) computers in the world that can run both OS X and Windows in one box… or even have both running side by side via virtual solutions? Do we not realize that that very big benefit very likely ends with a switch to an A8 or A9 as CPU? While not everyone here probably cares about that ability to run Windows, everybody here is not EVERYBODY everywhere.

This could go on and on. I know we're spinning every good reason we can think of as to why Apple should switch but are we ignoring the pain of such a switch and forgetting the pain of the prior CPU swap? I dread such a change if it's coming.
 
It should say: "Write the code, until you have to change the batteries in your wireless keyboard!!"

Doh. I hold the belief that the wired mice and wired keyboards are still 10,000 more reliable and give you 100% uptime, without a hassle. That's just me.
 
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Is that man wearing... a WATCH?

That's it folks, the rumor mill has caved in on itself.
 
I honestly don't see this as a good idea. ARM is meant to power mobile devices, not full blown desktop OSes. That's why Microsoft made Windows RT because Windows 8 couldn't run on ARM. If Apple did that, it would be iOS with a few more OS X features.
From a technical standpoint, isn't Windows RT is pretty much the same as Windows 8 just recompiled for ARM? I'm not talking about the artificial limitations like Microsoft not allowing third-party apps to run on the RT desktop.
 
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It's either the iWatch (iOS transitioning to smaller screens), or ARM based OSX transition to eventual iOS unification.

In a way, I would love the latter since iOS has some great apps that are not available on OSX.
 
If you guys want to know what OS X 10.10 is going to look like just take a look the WWDC Schedule page! :apple:

https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/schedule/

Very funny. The page comes up completely blank in Chrome. In Safari you get the full schedule. This has GOT to be deliberate by Apple. All their other WWDC pages work fine in Chrome.

As someone else said, Apple sure has a sense of humour sometimes.


Some of the event to be announced titles:

No Comment
This One Is Sealed
Shhhh, Can't Tell You Yet
It’s Under Wraps
To Be Announced
Still Our Secret
You’ll Find Out in a Few Days
It's Still Confidential
It's Confidential
We’re Not Telling
You’ll Never Guess This One
We Still Really Can't Say
You're Just Going to Have to Wait a Little Longer
We'd Really Love To Tell You
It’s Still Under Wraps
This One's a Doozy
We’re Not Telling Yet
We Really Can't Talk About It Yet
No Comment on This One
Wouldn’t You Like to Know
We’re Not Quite Ready to Share
This One Is Still Under Lock and Key
It's Going to Be Great
This One Is Still Under Lock and Key
Don't Even Try Guessing What This One is About
All in Due Time
Hang in There a Little Bit Longer
Good Things Come to Those Who Wait
We Have to Keep This Quiet Still
Our Lips Are Sealed on This One
This One's Very Cool
The Suspense is Building
Bet You Can’t Wait to Know
Our Lips Are Sealed

Apple sure has a sense of humour.
 
Write the code, change the world.

I believe it's about the rumored smart home that's about to be revealed. Think about it. The devs will be given a lot of API's to speak with lightbulbs, TV, thermostat etc. Presumably centered around the iWatch.
 
I guess it's time to schedule my two hours of uselessness. Try as much as I can, I can't avoid obsessively watching the live feed from these Keynotes.
 
Some of the event to be announced titles:

No Comment
This One Is Sealed
Shhhh, Can't Tell You Yet
It’s Under Wraps
To Be Announced
Still Our Secret
You’ll Find Out in a Few Days
It's Still Confidential
It's Confidential
We’re Not Telling
You’ll Never Guess This One
We Still Really Can't Say
You're Just Going to Have to Wait a Little Longer
We'd Really Love To Tell You
It’s Still Under Wraps
This One's a Doozy
We’re Not Telling Yet
We Really Can't Talk About It Yet
No Comment on This One
Wouldn’t You Like to Know
We’re Not Quite Ready to Share
This One Is Still Under Lock and Key
It's Going to Be Great
This One Is Still Under Lock and Key
Don't Even Try Guessing What This One is About
All in Due Time
Hang in There a Little Bit Longer
Good Things Come to Those Who Wait
We Have to Keep This Quiet Still
Our Lips Are Sealed on This One
This One's Very Cool
The Suspense is Building
Bet You Can’t Wait to Know
Our Lips Are Sealed

Apple sure has a sense of humour.

In other words if you don't expect to much you won't be disappointed!!
 
Apple does nothing by chance. Nothing is a mistake (except for all the bugs).

Look at the slogan more closely:

Write the code. Change the world.

If this is turned into an initialism, it forms a perfect palindrome—a mirror image:

WTC-CTW

It's the same backward and forward.

Jonny Ive has been working toward that place of absolute perfection, that place of obviousness, where everything but the essence of a product disappears. But until now, there has been a missing piece. He finally "figgered out a way" (as he would put it), to make Apple's products the same backward and forward in a revolutionary new process.

I for one will not be able to sleep.

WOOOW THAT WAS DEEP! awesome observation! :)
 
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