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WWDC: New LCD Displays

I'm sorta mad that the 20 inch is still expensive...for a monitor.... but they do kick butt...Is there any difference between the new 20 and the old 20? Or the 23's? And the 30 inch is crazy, plus u need to have the new graphics card....
I would be really mad if I just bought a new G5 with an "old monitor" ..o well not my prob. :D
Was that the only thing they released?
 
for puckhead

hey... check my post previous to yours...


I bought the newer g5 and the "older" 23" 4 days ago and they did upgrade my monitor to the newer model at no cost cuz they are the same price. I suspect this is to prevent complaints from people such as I who bought the monitors so close to the release of the new ones. No matter... I'm excited.
 
blorp said:
I really want the 20" display. I do. But for the $1799 that it costs, I could get 2 Samsung 173Ts (GREAT displays, by the way), have 34" of display, and save $440.
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The 20" costs $1299.

I can't argue with you, but that series of samsung's are a great value.. Apple on the other hand is very high end. We knew all of this though before this morning's announcement.. so why the shock?
 
blorp said:
For every 3" on the Apple store, you add $1000. The 17" is $999. The 20" is $1799. The 23" is $2799.

I'm just saying that, while the displays are great, they are overpriced...buddy ;)
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why am I seeing $699, $1299, $1999 on the Apple Store. Am I looking at edu prices?

Edit: ok. I see. Does anyone here know the Hi-ed programme edu prices for the displays in the UK?
 
Dad can I get 6k for a Dual G5 2,5Ghz and 20"? NO :(

My father do`s not love me.

Well I think that you can not find a better display in that price class today.

Nice apple, good work.
 
cr2sh said:
The 20" costs $1299.

I can't argue with you, but that series of samsung's are a great value.. Apple on the other hand is very high end. We knew all of this though before this morning's announcement.. so why the shock?
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I guess I wanted to believe the rumours. I'm shocked because for 3" more screen space than the 173T, and a few more features and better specs, I would pay nearly $1000 more. I'll just wait for the next price drop on the displays - that'll lower it a few hundred bones.
 
Just bought my first MAC ... with the NEW 23" HD Display

Hey you all ... I did it ... I made the switch ... and FINALLY. I wanted to do this a while ago as I've been waiting for the new G5's since January of this year.

I'm happy to say that I bought a dual 2.5 with the following specs:

- Dual 2.5GHz PowerPC G5
- 1GB DDR400 SDRAM (PC3200) - 2x512
- 160GB Serial ATA - 7200rpm
- Combo (CD-RW/DVD-ROM)
- 065-4893 ATI Radeon 9800 XT w/256MB DDR SDRAM
- Bluetooth Module + Apple Wireless Keyboard & Mouse

Other things:
- The new 23" HD Display
- .mac
- Apple Care plan


The reason I didn't upgrade the Hard Drive is that I have an external 250 GB Lacie triple interface drive.

I didn't get the Super Drive because I have an external 8X DVD+- Plextor Drive.

Any comments on my system would be appreciated as I can still make changes if needed.

Thanks!
 
Apple going too High End

In my humble opinion, and many of my friends and co workers who have been long time apple users agree, the trend with apple lately has been very disappointing. Dont get me wrong, the tech is really cool and industry leading bla bla bla, but in a sense, that isnt very hard to do. Whats harder to do is make really cool, high quality cutting edge stuff that is AFFORDABLE. There is no reason why they cant have a true entry level product line ($700 for a 17" LCD is NOT industry leading).

I just bought a DVI-D 18" monitor from iiyama for $400. ITs awesome, but I would have much preferred for it to be an apple branded monitor. I would have paid $500 for the same monitor if it had an apple logo on it. I keep wondering why apple cant do this. I think its unwise for them to alienate their grass roots base of users by making more and more of their products so high end. Pretty soon they will be like the next SGI, only available to those with the big bucks or big budgets while the rest of us will be kicking our intel based beige boxes.
 
What you pay for:

* Size and quality of display (the "raw specs")

* Styling and G5-matched case (that adds value for some, and thus WILL legitimately increase price. And don't say it's easy to design things that look this good, or you'd see everyone doing it. But you don't have to buy Apple style if you prefer something else, to each her own.)

* Ergonomics/flexibility (the space-efficient tilt stand, the other mounting options, the magnetic iSight attachment, the single-cable simplicity)

* USB 2 and FireWire (real 6-pin) hubs

To judge the new prices, could someone please list competing products that offer the same value on all (not some) of the above? Because if other truly COMPARABLE models aren't much cheaper, then all people can complain about is that they "want" a cheap LCD that doesn't exist. Or that they wish Apple offered something with fewer features so it could be cheaper. Fair enough--I just advised someone to get a non-Apple, smaller display based on price. Choices are good!

And if LCD component prices haven't dropped, that's just life for now.

These MAY be a terrible value, but I've seen nothing posted here that truly suggests that you can get the same for cheaper. Prices and specs would be welcome--and SOMETHING has to make up for the lack of Firewire or you can't point to a similar display being cheaper.
 
OK, I guess they still sell old-style 17", but I am left to wonder why they don't offer a new-style 17". Am I missing something? Not EVER G5 owner is a graphics studio... some people buy towers because it is the only headless Mac option (I am in this category)... such people are likely not in the market for such big and expensive displays.

I like them though... bet they'll look hot all mounted on a wall.
 
I agree about the 17"... putting the Apple widescreen 17" into an Al case, with USB hub but no Firewire, would be nice in the lineup.

Maybe that will be added once the old 17" is cleared out enough? Or maybe Apple is waiting due to supply issues on the widescreen, which they already need for two other products?

Steve likes style. A 17" version MUST be on the way sooner or later.
 
WWDC

Saying that only two knew thing were realesed and only one of them will ship soon, this wwdc was just ok. What happend last year? and also does anyone know where you can watch the keynote on the web
 
PAY THE $135-ish

PAY THE $135 to go from ATI 9800XT "old tech" to Nvidea 6800 "really new tech"!!!!! And do not buy your ram at APPLE - buy (2x512) from crucial and for the same cost (or close) as you were going to spend you will get newest/bestest video card AND and EXTRA 512 ram (total 1.5gig ram) - that is my story and I'm sticking to it! (cause I did it!)


madetheswitch99 said:
Hey you all ... I did it ... I made the switch ... and FINALLY. I wanted to do this a while ago as I've been waiting for the new G5's since January of this year.

I'm happy to say that I bought a dual 2.5 with the following specs:

- Dual 2.5GHz PowerPC G5
- 1GB DDR400 SDRAM (PC3200) - 2x512
- 160GB Serial ATA - 7200rpm
- Combo (CD-RW/DVD-ROM)
- 065-4893 ATI Radeon 9800 XT w/256MB DDR SDRAM
- Bluetooth Module + Apple Wireless Keyboard & Mouse

Other things:
- The new 23" HD Display
- .mac
- Apple Care plan


The reason I didn't upgrade the Hard Drive is that I have an external 250 GB Lacie triple interface drive.

I didn't get the Super Drive because I have an external 8X DVD+- Plextor Drive.

Any comments on my system would be appreciated as I can still make changes if needed.

Thanks!
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My Samsung 213T looks better now

I wanted to buy an Apple monitor, but for $200 -less- than the old 20" I got about 15% more screen real estate and a three-year warranty with the Samsung. When the new monitors turned up on the Rumor-Scope I thought 'great, they'll drop the price and the value proposition will change.'

Nope. Apple blew it. Still $1299 for the 20". Still a measly one-year warranty.

Feh, I say. They might sell a few of the 30" panels, but the others are just not price-competitive.
 
Imac G5

Where are the G5 imacs? People would want that more then new displays right? These are cool but the imac needed a new look and procesr more then the displays
 
No 17" because...

There was no 17" aluminum-framed display announced because that's the one that they'll be selling with the new iMac!, which clearly will be announced in a timely fashion for the Christmas shopping season.

Wait for your iPod and iMac announcements to be timed to seasonal spending ~ as Steve has plainly stated he no longer wishes hardware announcements to be linked exclusively to conference events.
 
maveness said:
There was no 17" aluminum-framed display announced because that's the one that they'll be selling with the new iMac!, which clearly will be announced in a timely fashion for the Christmas shopping season.

Wait for your iPod and iMac announcements to be timed to seasonal spending ~ as Steve has plainly stated he no longer wishes hardware announcements to be linked exclusively to conference events.
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I agree but then it would be almost a year before an update for a computer that is way to long. I think it will be around september
 
What is Apple thinking?

I don't think ANYBODY in the computer industry can possibly sell equipment for 2 years at the same price... what in the world is Apple thinking? No price drop on the 20" monitor? 19" LCDs with better specs can be found easily at Costco, Fry's, and BestBuy for well under $600. I would have thought that even $999 would have been a stretch, but keeping the price the same is just insane. I can't imagine their margins... The 23" I would have expected to be around $1699 or $1799. $1999 still isn't too bad. The 30" for $3299 is a little much but not bad considering... still, it leaves all but the biggest pockets able to get Apple LCDs...
 
Do I really need the 6800?

iriejedi said:
PAY THE $135 to go from ATI 9800XT "old tech" to Nvidea 6800 "really new tech"!!!!! And do not buy your ram at APPLE - buy (2x512) from crucial and for the same cost (or close) as you were going to spend you will get newest/bestest video card AND and EXTRA 512 ram (total 1.5gig ram) - that is my story and I'm sticking to it! (cause I did it!)
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Thanks for your comments but if I'm not going to have the 30" display, would I really need the 6800? What would it offer for the 23" display?

Thanks!
 
Absurd

Those monitors are way too expensive and overrated.

I care less about the design that is already cheap.

What in the hell is going up with Apple?

It wouldn't surprise me that Jobs is the owner of more than half of the PC industry and he is making more money (as Bill said) out of every Mac in the PC industry.
 
monitor prices

zoozx said:
Ridiculous pricing.
I'm use to getting gouged by apple but these new monitor prices are just ridiculous.
Come on steve, how many helicopters do you need?
:eek:
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With Sony's 23" LCD costing $2,200, why should apple
be chastised for selling cheaper?
 
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