bryanzak said:
I hope my recent quicktime pro purchase carries over fully in the next incantation...pretty pissed if I paid for soemthing like this and had less than a years shelf life...
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I hope my recent quicktime pro purchase carries over fully in the next incantation...pretty pissed if I paid for soemthing like this and had less than a years shelf life...
Encrypted iChat
Someone mentioned that if iChat supported encrypted comms it would be a great business tool
Well, from the Mac OS X Tiger Server Preview press release
Someone mentioned that if iChat supported encrypted comms it would be a great business tool
Well, from the Mac OS X Tiger Server Preview press release
Gee4orce said:
Oh, sweet. It will likely work with regular jabber then. That would be excellent.
Gee4orce said:
Thats excellent.
Now does this mean that peer to peer cant be encrypted without one of us owning a server?
Hey, a decent search capability for Mail, it's about time!
And I wonder if Spotlight is going to be a replacement for Launchbar. Based on the brief description, it doesn't like they're aiming for such a thing, but you never know.
And I wonder if Spotlight is going to be a replacement for Launchbar. Based on the brief description, it doesn't like they're aiming for such a thing, but you never know.
savar said:
my guess it means the first half of 2005
that would be between January and June. just a stab in the dark.
ok. i think it will be a good update. with lot more to come im sure.
All the stuff under the hood sounds great. META searching of files is the way to go. This will be a BIG thing. The GUI of spotlight looks ok, and the smart folders is a great idea, i can imagine using them all the time.
I think the real big news is the Core Video and Core Image stuff. I am a broadcast designer and any improvements in video and image handling is greatly welcome. I am really looking forward to using 'Motion', It should integrate perfectly with FCP. I use Combustion and Affter Effects at the moment along side FCP, maybe i will just switch to 'Motion' and FCP in the future. I would like to see Apple a use tree / node based interface for building up complex compositions and effects as in Combustion and Shake along side the more standard layers interface. As long as i can work in real time (or at least near real time) with uncompressed footage ready for television broadcasts i will be happy. the new QT codec, what is the compression on that ? it's not tv broadcast quality, is it ?
ok. quick point on the dashboard thing.
i am using Konfabulator at the moment, ( just for fun at the moment ) Its quite clunky and the widgets are really hit or miss. Some are good, ie the weather widget and calendar but most just don't work or simply look sh*t. I think Apple can do a much better job. It's no new idea so Konflabulator should just shut up and stop complaining. They got the idea off others anyway.
Just about every app comes from another app in some way or another, it's just the way things are. You take good ideas and make them better. Just like design just like music just like everything. It's life.
just my thoughts
anyone else excited by the core image and video stuff. i think it will move motion gxf software on leaps and bounds.
No, the interface is not perfect...
augh... I don't understand why some of these "minor" features should be shot down because they're not important or deamed less significant. I think there are enough people who want crap like springloaded folders in the dock, windowshade, some interface control (themes), piles, etc... to have some say of what they want in an operating system. I want a lot of things that are not in osx that were in OS 9. I miss em... they were things i used and things that i think apple should be able to implement with out much fuss or time (maybe i'm wrong). It just seems like Apple doesn't care about what a lot of people want... its apple's way or the highway. What is that crap? Innovation doesn't always mean you pitch stuff that works. We still haven't gotten rid of the wheel or fire. Maybe we should pitch electricity too... HA HA.
augh... I don't understand why some of these "minor" features should be shot down because they're not important or deamed less significant. I think there are enough people who want crap like springloaded folders in the dock, windowshade, some interface control (themes), piles, etc... to have some say of what they want in an operating system. I want a lot of things that are not in osx that were in OS 9. I miss em... they were things i used and things that i think apple should be able to implement with out much fuss or time (maybe i'm wrong). It just seems like Apple doesn't care about what a lot of people want... its apple's way or the highway. What is that crap? Innovation doesn't always mean you pitch stuff that works. We still haven't gotten rid of the wheel or fire. Maybe we should pitch electricity too... HA HA.
Awimoway said:What a bunch of sour apples.
Tiger is a much more exciting update than Panther.
Spotlight: Metadata in Finder and more. What could be better?
Automater: The possibilities are endless. If this is implemented correctly, it will be a very powerful feature.
Dashboard: A cleaner version of Konfab with Apple's design touches.
Safari RSS: Finally, an easy, straightforward, Mac-esque way to do RSS!
iChat AV: The hi-res video rocks.
NO PINSTRIPES
This is a very solid update to the OS. Far more impressive than the one-hit wonder that was Panther: "oh boy, I can make my windows fly off the screen... uh, is that all there is?"
I agree totally. I can see, in this EARLY version, that Tiger will make me more PRODUCTIVE. As we watched X grow from 10.0 which was almost an experiment, to Tiger, which is incredibly slick, one can only wonder what the future holds. It seems to me that this particular incremental version sports a lot of things that folks asked for, rather than a whole new OS. And thank goodness for that. Because honestly folks, I don't need my 1800 users learning a COMPLETELY new OS every few years. I love the way Apple adds value to the already excellent OS. Automator and Spotlight look like a winner. Oh, and for the socially challenged folk that WANT a new OS every few years, there's a bit of eye candy in Dashboard ond other bits to keep the basement lights lit for a while.
movabi said:
Like what?
movabi said:
You REALLY believe that, or it just "seems" that way? I would submit that Apple SPECIFICALLY adds feature requests that they know folks want... just not what YOU want. I'm really not trying to be rude here, but such a sweeping statement screams for some analysis.
unsigned said:
I think you're pretty bright, and I believe this is JUST the way Apple thinks. It might be wrong, but it might just be the closest thing to the truth I've seen here. I always think "what do I need this damn thing to DO?" and it's NOT a tablet. I believe if Apple DID do a tablet it would destroy them, because they must not be watching the data out there on those useless gadgets. (I HAD an HP tablet, and, well, let's say it's GONE now!)
Anyway, a new paradigm it is. Bet we see it, and I hope to slap you on the back and buy you a Black and Tan in about 6-10 months.
Now that Apple is adding RSS to safari and changing the way we browse, I hope they integrate sherlock into safari and add more components to it. I would much rather do all those searches within sarari than opening up another app. Its all browser based anyway, they could probably integrate the help system into it as well.
so are we agreed:
Spotlight = Launchbar - http://www.obdev.at/products/launchbar/
Dashboard = Konfabulator - http://www.konfabulator.com/
only interesting thing is Automator
Spotlight = Launchbar - http://www.obdev.at/products/launchbar/
Dashboard = Konfabulator - http://www.konfabulator.com/
only interesting thing is Automator
urbanmac well depends if you count the "active desktop" thing from _microsoft_ (at least win98) as widgets on the desktop (or DesktopX fro mStardock availbale for windows being 3 years older than konfabulator)
lets face it: the idea is old....very old... and neither konfabulator/apple/microsoft invented it...hands down
and for spotlight i don't see any similiarities between that and launchbar neither from functionality nor apearance
(or DesktopX fro mStardock availbale for windows being 3 years older than konfabulator)lets face it: the idea is old....very old... and neither konfabulator/apple/microsoft invented it...hands down
and for spotlight i don't see any similiarities between that and launchbar neither from functionality nor apearance
urbanmac said:
Neither LaunchBar nor Konfabulator were original, unprecedented ideas. Plus, Spotlight uses Metadata for global indexing which includes content. LaunchBar doesn't do that...
Ok, here is a question for you all. Will Tiger be 32-bit compatible as well, or will I need a PowerMac G5 or PowerBook G5?... I have been thinking of buying an eMac; however, if it isn't supported by Tiger, why bother... Thanks!
so, being an apple consumer isn't justification?
oh, i forget, apple's crap doesn't stink... and everything they do is wonderful and should not be questioned. I guess we should just shut up and like it. That's not a very good business model (especially for such a small market share).
I have a question... When did the mac user base all become programmers? I get the feeling from all the banter that goes on in here that everyone is an expert in programming or are hardware engineers that think that osx is for developers only and that us regular joes should have no feedback.
I like osx and Apple... i wouldn't have hung on for 13 years if didn't. I'm just a dumb artist and type designer who doesn't want the finder to lock up for minutes at a time and have some features that make my job easier. I'm not made out of money and when i buy the apple brand, i think that entitles me to have a voice. I also hope that Tiger doesn't equate being forced to upgrade to a G5.
oh, i forget, apple's crap doesn't stink... and everything they do is wonderful and should not be questioned. I guess we should just shut up and like it. That's not a very good business model (especially for such a small market share).
I have a question... When did the mac user base all become programmers? I get the feeling from all the banter that goes on in here that everyone is an expert in programming or are hardware engineers that think that osx is for developers only and that us regular joes should have no feedback.
I like osx and Apple... i wouldn't have hung on for 13 years if didn't. I'm just a dumb artist and type designer who doesn't want the finder to lock up for minutes at a time and have some features that make my job easier. I'm not made out of money and when i buy the apple brand, i think that entitles me to have a voice. I also hope that Tiger doesn't equate being forced to upgrade to a G5.
Frat Squirrel said:
Tiger will run on 32bit systems. There appear to be 2 kernels, one for 32bit and one for 64bit. Developers will be able to ship applications that contain code for both (automatically launching the correct version on your system).
nacl99 said:
I agree, this is going to be the best thing about Tiger IMHO. I noticed Steve said the metadata would be extendable. What I haven't found out is how much so. In an ideal case _I_ want to be able to add a new category of metadata to my files. That is what I really want. Like, say, documents that have already been printed, or those that belong to topic X. I need to find out more ...
This alone is reason enough to upgrade (for me).
multithreaded finder?
any news/info on mutlithreaded finder. to me that would be a huge improvement alone.
any news/info on mutlithreaded finder. to me that would be a huge improvement alone.
If I remember correctly, Jabber servers can be networked together. So for instance, you could have a Jabber server in each of your offices, and then connect those servers together. It would use the bandwidth more efficiently.Gee4orce said:
I wonder if the iChat server has those kinds of links to Jabber servers - or even to other iChat servers.
core image doesn't support Radeon 9200
This somewhat off topic but I wonder why the Radeon 9200 (currently used in the iBooks and eMacs is not supported? I mean lots of people say the can't understand why the 12" PB still comes with the GeForce GO 5200 when the overall performance of the Radeon 9200 is better. So could it be that the Radeon is missing a feature, thus the missing support of core image or was it an arbitrary decission by Apple to not support the Radeon? Any Ideas?
This somewhat off topic but I wonder why the Radeon 9200 (currently used in the iBooks and eMacs is not supported? I mean lots of people say the can't understand why the 12" PB still comes with the GeForce GO 5200 when the overall performance of the Radeon 9200 is better. So could it be that the Radeon is missing a feature, thus the missing support of core image or was it an arbitrary decission by Apple to not support the Radeon? Any Ideas?