Xbox One S & Xbox One X (Scorpio) (2017)

[h9826790]

That's exactly what the devs hate - people buying games at resell - they make no money from that...

Yes, I understand, but I suspect going the subscription route won't help them to make any more money. Most likely will make less people play console games. And make the market smaller.

Of course, some people will start to join this party. But may be more to leave.

 

[gkarris]

They have moved (?) the E3 Briefing to tomorrow, Sunday, 2:00pm PDT!

The Scorpio Announcement:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/e3

 

[Cnasty]

I am so freakin excited.

They also dropped the XB1S price to $199, what a steal for a secondary room console.

Need to see if they will be doing any trade in programs or something for my XB1S or may just move it to the bedroom.

 

[gkarris]

I am so freakin excited.

They also dropped the XB1S price to $199, what a steal for a secondary room console.

Need to see if they will be doing any trade in programs or something for my XB1S or may just move it to the bedroom.

You mean $249 and only until June 17...

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/10/e3-2017-microsoft-announces-xbox-one-s-price-drop

(this matches Sony's sale on the PS4 of $249)

 

[Cnasty]

You mean $249 and only until June 17...

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/10/e3-2017-microsoft-announces-xbox-one-s-price-drop

(this matches Sony's sale on the PS4 of $249)

This is what I read somewhere:

That means that the cheapest bundle, the $249 Xbox One S Minecraft Bundle, will fall to a more palatable $199. Likewise, the Xbox One S Battlefield 1 Bundle should see its price reduced from $299 to $249, while the Xbox One S Gears of War 4 Limited Edition Bundle will be priced at $349 (compared to the current $399).

 

[gkarris]

This is what I read somewhere:

That means that the cheapest bundle, the $249 Xbox One S Minecraft Bundle, will fall to a more palatable $199. Likewise, the Xbox One S Battlefield 1 Bundle should see its price reduced from $299 to $249, while the Xbox One S Gears of War 4 Limited Edition Bundle will be priced at $349 (compared to the current $399).

They're not dropping the price of the already discounted bundles - they remain at $249...
[doublepost=1497197892][/doublepost]XBox Ones refurbished from the MS Store are $179 - can't beat that!!!

 

[Cnasty]

They're not dropping the price of the already discounted bundles - they remain at $249...
[doublepost=1497197892][/doublepost]XBox Ones refurbished from the MS Store are $179 - can't beat that!!!

Guess it was a misreport then as that's what I read.

Great time to grab one anyway.

Curious to see this Scorpio price. It is so important for the success of this machine with how much Sony has run away with exclusives lately. This could be a huge get for Scorpio but if they go crazy like $699 or something they will have a big problem.

 

[gkarris]

Guess it was a misreport then as that's what I read.

Great time to grab one anyway.

Curious to see this Scorpio price. It is so important for the success of this machine with how much Sony has run away with exclusives lately. This could be a huge get for Scorpio but if they go crazy like $699 or something they will have a big problem.

Some insider YouTubers are saying it was "leaked" at $449, being called the "XBox One X" (XBOX for short).

People seem to welcome that price with the power, early adopters/fans will definitely get it at that price.

I still believe anything over $400 and you can just go home. I think the $449 will be handing the "current Mid-Gen" to Sony's PS4 Pro...

 

[Cnasty]

$449 would be absolutely outstanding in gaining some leverage for the future and they really need to be vanilla and ABC at their E3 announcement.

Most diehards like us in the tech realm get the Scorpio but what will the media run with and average consumer hear to make them want to spend $450 will the be biggest thing they can share.

I am excited with the vision of XB in terms of Scorpio, GamePass and all of the BC they have been working on.

 

[gkarris]

$449 would be absolutely outstanding in gaining some leverage for the future and they really need to be vanilla and ABC at their E3 announcement.

Most diehards like us in the tech realm get the Scorpio but what will the media run with and average consumer hear to make them want to spend $450 will the be biggest thing they can share.

I am excited with the vision of XB in terms of Scorpio, GamePass and all of the BC they have been working on.

At $450 instead of $399, MS can "sweeten the pot" by throwing in a 2TB drive and 6 months of XBox Live Gold - then the $450 would be much easier to justify...

 

[iosuser]

Some insider YouTubers are saying it was "leaked" at $449, being called the "XBox One X" (XBOX for short).

People seem to welcome that price with the power, early adopters/fans will definitely get it at that price.

I still believe anything over $400 and you can just go home. I think the $449 will be handing the "current Mid-Gen" to Sony's PS4 Pro...

Hmm per IGN it'll simply be called Xbox Scorpio and be priced at $499.. but we'll find out for sure soon enough.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/11/microsofts-new-console-will-be-called-xbox-scorpio

I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's priced at $449, will be quite a feat given that a GTX1070 which is a close match based on TFLOPS is still close to $400..

Xbox One X it is, guess that IGN dude got trolled by Best Buy Canada. Good name other than possibly getting it confused with the S when you visit Target or BB to buy yours.

 

[Sensamic]

449/499€ is a no go for me, specially until I see what it truly is capable of.

Right now seeing the press conference. State of Decay 2 doesn't look that graphically amazing to me.

Forza and Metro looked great.

Metro won't be exclusive right? I have to play that on my PS4.

 

[Sensamic]

I am so freakin excited.

They also dropped the XB1S price to $199, what a steal for a secondary room console.

Need to see if they will be doing any trade in programs or something for my XB1S or may just move it to the bedroom.

The dropped price is worldwide? That'd be cool. A steal for a BR 4K player.

 

[Cnasty]

Man this thing is a monster.

Really not sure about the name and wish they had stuck with XBox Scorpio.

Regardless, Forza 7 in native 4K at 60FPS?!?

Yea, day one reserve for me.

 

[MRU]

I'll buy it ....

 

[Sensamic]

State of Decay 2 and Sea of Thieves coming in 2018 I've seen.

They were supposed to be exclusives for this year.

 

[Sensamic]

50$/€ more expensive than PS4 Pro makes sense, since it's a more powerful console.

But still too much for me, considering I got the PS4 for just 165€.

 

[Cnasty]

Such a huge leap in tech and ability than the PS4 Pro and they priced it perfectly imo

I wish they would have really somehow distinguished it from the over saturated market of consoles though with a distinguishing name or mark.

XBox4K?

Scorpio would have been nice.

 

[Sensamic]

The discount price on Xbox One S seems to be only on US.

Original Xbox compatibility is great. Didn't expect that.

Also 4K updates for a lot of great games: RE7, The Witcher 3, DOOM, Gears of War 4, Killer Instinct, etc.

 

[Sensamic]

499$ price confirmed seems.

 

[gkarris]

499$ price confirmed seems.

MS seems to have forgotten that $500 XBox One's don't really sell compared to $400 PS4's...

No VR plans yet..

Sony can easily do a slam-dunk later this week.

 

[JohnGrey]

MS seems to have forgotten that $500 XBox One's don't really sell compared to $400 PS4's...

No VR plans yet..

Sony can easily do a slam-dunk later this week.

I agree to a point, except that you don't appreciate that Microsoft has taken a page from Sony's playbook: they've built a console dedicated to native 4K gaming that can also function as a UHD player, much like the PS2 did with DVDs. UHD players start in the low $200s. The high-end players, like my Oppo UDP-203, are a bit more than the X1X. If the console can function as a quality player, or better yet if it manages to come with Dolby Vision support, then it'll be pulling double duty for the two most expensive activities, hardware-wise, that come with owning 4K telly. I haven't resolved to purchase one but as a member Microsoft's target audience, a gamer that is heavily invested in 4K, they very much have my attention.

 

[h9826790]

XB1X is a good console (hardware), but where is the games (software)?

I love my XB1 so much more than the PS4, but I have to admit that PS4 has so much more games to choose. And I often forced to play my PS4 because the same title not avail on XB1.

 

[44267547]

It's a day one purchase for me. Not because necessarily I just 'Want' it. Because it will offer some exclusive games and content that will differ with my PS4 Pro. I like having opposing advantages to both consoles and having a 4K/HDR TV is going to pair well with the new Xbox. $500.00 isn't unreasonable to me, considering the Specifications and future games, I have no reason to not purchase this.

 

[Taustin Powers]

MS really need a lesson in naming their products.

X-Box:
Fair enough, catchy name, it works. Good job there.

X-Box 360:
What, did I miss 358 consoles since the original X-Box? Strange choice. I guess "X-Box 2" would have sounded inadequate next to "Playstation 3", so they needed to go a different route?

X-Box One:
Oh boy. I get it, Microsoft wanted to spread the "One" moniker among their products and services. "OneDrive", "OneNote", etc. But I have a feeling gamers care a lot less about this "unity" than Microsoft execs do. And where can we go with the next generation? What comes after "360" and "One"?

X-Box One S:
Hmm. "S" stands for "Slim", I guess. But why the extra letter? It's just a new X-Box One? Not a terrible decision, but not very necessary to give each hardware revision a new name, I would say.

X-Box One X:
Aaahhhh.... Just one letter difference to the "S", and the letters sound phonetically very similar! I see a lot of potential for confusion, parents buying the wrong thing. Remember how many people had problems figuring out that the WiiU is something completely different from the Wii?


Just for comparison:
- Playstation
- Playstation 2
- Playstation 3
- Playstation 4
- Playstation 4 Pro


No matter which side of the "console war" you're on, you have to admit that Sony's naming scheme is just a little bit easier to decipher!
[doublepost=1497251408][/doublepost]All that aside, it looks like a powerful console, and a more "meaningful" upgrade than the PS4 Pro was. Owning a PS4, I have not felt compelled to get a Pro yet. If I had a One, the "X" would be more tempting to me. Curious to see how the pricing strategy will work out for them.