Yellow-gate? ;)

[ApplePieAlaMode]

Ok I have some updates to my situation. Some of you may remember the awful yellow iPhone 7plus pic I posted compared to my 6plus. I did receive a replacement phone via mail and I have some new info and theories. (Side note: new phone was same serial starting letters)

1. After having my 7plus for almost a week is HAS gotten cooler and brighter. I promise it's not just my eyes. My husband agrees.

2. My replacement 7plus is worse which leads me to think there may be some truth to letting it "sit" or "run" for a bit. It at least proves there ARE discrepancies in two different 7pluses.

3. Replacement phone had IOS 10.0. After upgrading to 10.002. It DID in fact get brighter. Still needs some "cooling" though.

4. Now this is just a funny conspiracy theory but interesting none the less. After my husband upgraded his 6plus to 10.002 today, he SWEARS it looks dimmer! I can see it too! Now both old and new 7pluses look 25% brighter than his 6plus. I truly can't believe it but we made sure settings were identical. He made a joke that maybe the 10.002 updates made 6's dimmer so people would quit comparing them hahaha. Laughing but also scratching my head.

Final decision. I'm keeping the replacement phone with hopes it will also "cool" down a bit in a weeks time. The brightness is now fantastic after the update, and I now will rest my case. I'm in no way saying that all yellow dim phones will improve with time and update, but in my case it did. Good luck to you all!

 

[remcoy]

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[evorc]

Ok I have some updates to my situation. Some of you may remember the awful yellow iPhone 7plus pic I posted compared to my 6plus. I did receive a replacement phone via mail and I have some new info and theories. (Side note: new phone was same serial starting letters)

1. After having my 7plus for almost a week is HAS gotten cooler and brighter. I promise it's not just my eyes. My husband agrees.

2. My replacement 7plus is worse which leads me to think there may be some truth to letting it "sit" or "run" for a bit. It at least proves there ARE discrepancies in two different 7pluses.

3. Replacement phone had IOS 10.0. After upgrading to 10.002. It DID in fact get brighter. Still needs some "cooling" though.

4. Now this is just a funny conspiracy theory but interesting none the less. After my husband upgraded his 6plus to 10.002 today, he SWEARS it looks dimmer! I can see it too! Now both old and new 7pluses look 25% brighter than his 6plus. I truly can't believe it but we made sure settings were identical. He made a joke that maybe the 10.002 updates made 6's dimmer so people would quit comparing them hahaha. Laughing but also scratching my head.

Final decision. I'm keeping the replacement phone with hopes it will also "cool" down a bit in a weeks time. The brightness is now fantastic after the update, and I now will rest my case. I'm in no way saying that all yellow dim phones will improve with time and update, but in my case it did. Good luck to you all!

Don't tell kre62 you noticed an improvement .

 

[evorc]

I find it hard to believe that people are still saying the 7 is intentionally warmer. Considering all the variation we have seen in this thread, just because Displaymate tested one phone at 6700k does not mean Apple is making the 7 intentionally warmer. Also, 6700K vs 7000k would be a nearly imperceptible difference.

All Displaymates test confirms is that that one single iphone 7 was slightly different then their one single iphone 6s. Thats the end of what it proves.

Show me a 7 as blue as the 6s then we can talk. Stop this non-sense man lol. I'm glad you returned your 7 for now and hope you can find that bluer screen 7.

 

[kre62]

Show me a 7 as blue as the 6s then we can talk. Stop this non-sense man lol. I'm glad you returned your 7 for now and hope you can find that bluer screen 7.

Ive seen plenty of beautiful screened 7's. The real question is show me evidence whatsoever that the 7 is "supposed" to be warmer. Theres no statements by Apple, huge variability in screens, and the same yellow defect we see with every single launch of an Apple product.

So how can you confidently say the 7 is supposed to be warmer based on the exact same yellow screens and screen variance we saw with the last 10 apple products? These same defects dont prove this year is any different than past years.

 

[evorc]

Ive seen plenty of beautiful screened 7's. The real question is show me evidence whatsoever that the 7 is "supposed" to be warmer. Theres no statements by Apple, huge variability in screens, and the same yellow defect we see with every single launch of an Apple product.

So how can you confidently say the 7 is supposed to be warmer based on the exact same yellow screens and screen variance we saw with the last 10 apple products? These same defects dont prove this year is any different than past years.

You are really better off skipping the 7. Have a great night. Again good luck finding that 7. I will enjoy my 7 in the mean time until the 8. I'm sure you will find something wrong with the 8 lol. It's just a phone for crying out loud. There are other options out there besides Apple.

 

[kre62]

You are really better off skipping the 7. Have a great night. Again good luck finding that 7. I will enjoy my 7 in the mean time until the 8. I'm sure you will find something wrong with the 8 lol. It's just a phone for crying out loud. There are other options out there besides Apple.

Conceding huh. Thats cool. I plan on buying another 7 this weekend. And yea, if it isnt up to par, its going right back.

 

[evorc]

Conceding huh. Thats cool. I plan on buying another 7 this weekend. And yea, if it isnt up to par, its going right back.

Conceding? Nah. I don't have time to argue about non-sense. My screen is gorgeous and I'm glad it's. it yellow and blue like the 6s. I've calibrated many screens and this calibration on the 7 is prefect.

 

[kre62]

Conceding? Nah. I don't have time to argue about non-sense. My screen is gorgeous and I'm glad it's. it yellow and blue like the 6s. I've calibrated many screens and this calibration on the 7 is prefect.

*The calibration on YOUR 7 is perfect. That does not mean all 7s are like yours or are supposed to be like yours. Thats the thing people dont seem to get.

 

[evorc]

*The calibration on YOUR 7 is perfect. That does not mean all 7s are like yours or are supposed to be like yours. Thats the thing people dont seem to get.

Yes there are yellow screens out there that should be exchanged but the ones that are not are fine and meant to be calibrated warmer.

 

[kre62]

Yes there are yellow screens out there that should be exchanged but the ones that are not are fine and meant to be calibrated warmer.

Lol ok man, guess this ones too tough for you.

 

[Snot Rox]

Ok I have some updates to my situation. Some of you may remember the awful yellow iPhone 7plus pic I posted compared to my 6plus. I did receive a replacement phone via mail and I have some new info and theories. (Side note: new phone was same serial starting letters)

1. After having my 7plus for almost a week is HAS gotten cooler and brighter. I promise it's not just my eyes. My husband agrees.

2. My replacement 7plus is worse which leads me to think there may be some truth to letting it "sit" or "run" for a bit. It at least proves there ARE discrepancies in two different 7pluses.

3. Replacement phone had IOS 10.0. After upgrading to 10.002. It DID in fact get brighter. Still needs some "cooling" though.

4. Now this is just a funny conspiracy theory but interesting none the less. After my husband upgraded his 6plus to 10.002 today, he SWEARS it looks dimmer! I can see it too! Now both old and new 7pluses look 25% brighter than his 6plus. I truly can't believe it but we made sure settings were identical. He made a joke that maybe the 10.002 updates made 6's dimmer so people would quit comparing them hahaha. Laughing but also scratching my head.

Final decision. I'm keeping the replacement phone with hopes it will also "cool" down a bit in a weeks time. The brightness is now fantastic after the update, and I now will rest my case. I'm in no way saying that all yellow dim phones will improve with time and update, but in my case it did. Good luck to you all!

I agree. Mine came out with a very warm tone. After a week it has gotten cooler. I compared it to a 6s+ and the temp is now nearly identical but still warmer. What was weird that my bottom portion of the screen was more yellow and now it's gone. It appeared to even out.

 

[iPotential]

Day 14: I have returned the (way too) warm iPhone 7. No regrets returning to my iPhone 6, with its clean and brilliant looking whites.

 

[netnative]

Would you give me your opinion on the display of my 7 Plus? The iPhone on the right is a 6s Plus.

 

[iPotential]

Would you give me your opinion on the display of my 7 Plus? The iPhone on the right is a 6s Plus.

Keep the 6s and return the 7. Buy a 7s.

 

[yamvmax]

One area manufacturers need to improve, is consistency in displays. Its my one major gripe. Too many variations in screen temperature.

 

[netnative]

Keep the 6s and return the 7. Buy a 7s.

I am yet to appreciate how Apple improved the display of the 7 Plus and still prefer the display of my 6s Plus. However, I am also bored with my 6s Plus.

 

[Brian Y]

From my experience with these, the 7 does seem to have a warmer display in general. That said, it's probably more "accurate" than the blue-tinted ones.

People always seem to think that a blue tint is better - but have a look at whites around you, they'll have a yellow tint, not a blue one.

 

[HEK]

I've been watching this thread for the last week. I have just come back from the Apple store where I swapped my phone because of yellow issues. I went around the display phones with the Genius and he easily agreed that mine screen was far yellower and duller than all the display phones. My replacement is as bad if not worse so I will be returning that one at the weekend. I accept that the 7 is a warmer temp but the phones I have been given are noticeably warmer than all the display 7's. Why should I pay for something and receive a substandard product to what is on offer (the display phones)

We know the 7 display is warmer but people's issue is that there is such a discrepancy between products

Edit:

Just looked and both the phones I have had are from the same factory and same build week. Could this be the issue?

• Factory: DNP - China, Chengdu (Foxconn)
  
  
• Year: 2016
  
  
• Week: 36 (05.09 - 11.09)

Just out of curiosity, did you even adjust the screen tone under accessibility? This is new with iOS 10 and allows each user to alter screen tone warmer or cooler to their liking. You are no longer limited to accept setting out of the box. You can change it.
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I have another appointment today and going to do the same thing. The display models at the store here are all beautiful and look like the 6s displays (not quite as cool, but not yellow tinted). I already showed an employee the difference on my 2nd returned phone compared to the displays and she saw it right away. I keep getting inferior phones. It's interesting that the other  store has some bad display models, but not the newly remodeled store. At least the employee believed me, such as in your case. It's truly amazing to see the difference between mine and the display units.

You could simply adjust the color tint of the screen. Apple gave us that ability with iOS 10. I just played with it and can adjust screen color tint warmer or colder to exactly where I like it. TVs have had this adjustment for years as do most computer displays. It's actually rather easy to do, more so than going back and forth to Apple Store and exchanging phones. Once you set it to your liking, that's it. Couldn't be much more simple.

 

[netnative]

"Next, let’s talk about the Retina HD display. The Retina HD display is the best display on any smartphone. In an iPhone 7 and 7 Plus they get even better. They are now 25% brighter than the 6s and 6s Plus. For the first time they display wide color gamut that’s cinema P3 standard colors, and we do end-to-end color management from the manufacturing to factory to the photos you take with a camera to what you see as display are all color managed in a beautiful way."

--Phil Schiller, SVP of Worldwide Marketing at Apple, September 7, 2016

 

[HEK]

"Next, let’s talk about the Retina HD display. The Retina HD display is the best display on any smartphone. In an iPhone 7 and 7 Plus they get even better. They are now 25% brighter than the 6s and 6s Plus. For the first time they display wide color gamut that’s cinema P3 standard colors, and we do end-to-end color management from the manufacturing to factory to the photos you take with a camera to what you see as display are all color managed in a beautiful way."

--Phil Schiller, SVP of Worldwide Marketing at Apple, September 7, 2016

I picked up my new Mercedes Benz last week and the air conditioning was a lot warmer than my previous one. I returned it to dealer for another one. Took me three tries before I got one that was as cool as my trade in. I tried the floor models and they had various different air temps. Not like MB to have such inconsistencies.

 

[Monko]

Just out of curiosity, did you even adjust the screen tone under accessibility? This is new with iOS 10 and allows each user to alter screen tone warmer or cooler to their liking. You are no longer limited to accept setting out of the box. You can change it.
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You could simply adjust the color tint of the screen. Apple gave us that ability with iOS 10. I just played with it and can adjust screen color tint warmer or colder to exactly where I like it. TVs have had this adjustment for years as do most computer displays. It's actually rather easy to do, more so than going back and forth to Apple Store and exchanging phones. Once you set it to your liking, that's it. Couldn't be much more simple.

No no no... read the thread before you post. Changing the colour settings is not an option. You clearly didn't even read what I posted before quoting it. My screen is clearly different from what Apple display in their stores. This was acknowledged by the store staff hence swapping for a new one.
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I picked up my new Mercedes Benz last week and the air conditioning was a lot warmer than my previous one. I returned it to dealer for another one. Took me three tries before I got one that was as cool as my trade in. I tried the floor models and they had various different air temps. Not like MB to have such inconsistencies.

A more realistic example : I saw a lovely white MB in the showroom so I ordered one. When it arrived it was a different shade of white to the one in the showroom that I had ordered. The garage immediately agreed with me and agreed to replace it with the colour I had ordered.

 

[AppleRobert]

Color temperature and saturation between my MBPr, iPhone Mini 4, iPhone 6S, and iPhone 7 are all different. Some lean warmer, some lean cooler. I'd say this is normal, personally, not some defect.

Just wait till Apple goes AMOLED. People are completely going to lose their ****. That display tech plays by a completely different set of rules, and if you've never owned a Samsung prior, the differences are startling.

Lol, they need not wait that long. Just check out Samsungs on display, they will see yellow for sure.

 

[HEK]

No no no... read the thread before you post. Changing the colour settings is not an option. You clearly didn't even read what I posted before quoting it. My screen is clearly different from what Apple display in their stores. This was acknowledged by the store staff hence swapping for a new one.
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A more realistic example : I saw a lovely white MB in the showroom so I ordered one. When it arrived it was a different shade of white to the one in the showroom that I had ordered. The garage immediately agreed with me and agreed to replace it with the colour I had ordered.

No no no color of car color is not changeable. Temperature of air conditioning is adjustable.

Just as the screen temperature is adjustable. You may not like it, but I suspect strongly had you not set the two units next to each other you wouldn't have near the problem with it that you have. Color perception to the eye and mind is very relative to what is being seen next to it. Since lining up ten screens will show variation between them, I submit that being able to slightly vary the color balance temperature via controls makes perfect sense. When I adjust the color I don't see other colors being thrown off. The change has to be quite subtle. It takes a bit of fussing to get it right. Quite easy to overcorrect.

I use the night shift option as well and I don't see incorrect colors to the white on that screen. Of course if I hold up a device without night shift on, between the two screens they are way different. But when I view different colors on one screen they look correct relative to each other. Based on surrounding light night shift in day looks very yellow. At night it looks correct and screen way too blue without it. But then I may be odd using screen of one device at a time.

If you have blotchyness on one screen then I would say trade it in. But slightly cooler or warmer uniform screens are not some screen error. It's called manufacturing variation. If you demand perfect zero tolerance variations in phones then only 23 people would have iPhones. No two things made are exactly the same. There are Plus and minus tolerances. You are just lucky to be working with Apple, as other companies would not so easily be exchanging phones. I see them doing this more as a curtesy to appease customer.

 

[Eduardboon]

Unfortunately your posting history is publicly available. You specialize in complaining about Apple products and yet you keep buying them. Or maybe you're just really unlucky...

At some point you have to consider it might not be Apple with the problem.

Well actually; they are the ones with the problem. I have been on the phone with a senior advisor for 2 days now and he agrees that something is definitely up. Yes, I have had problems with apple products for quite some time, and we delved into that. Current theory is that my iCloud account has some issues that are completely out of my hands; I can't solve them. No, not a conspiracy, but just a problem that arose on their servers, so I am not able to do anything about it myself.

Just today; Apple had me set up my phone and watch as new devices and NOT login to iCloud. Battery life has been outstanding. They also had me pair my watch with another persons phone and ID. No problems arose. Since I've been using DFU restores the software is also fine, something is up with my iCloud profile. Starting tomorrow, Apple is going to delve deep into this problem, that they have acknowledge.

Now; onto the different type of problems; the screens. Yes, I am most certainly picky; I think I spend quite some money on Apple products, so I would like for them to be great; especially the screens. iPads have been a real problem for me; since a tint shift is so easily spotted. I get caught up in these threads and post my frustrations here, but the truth is; Apple has always been on my side here to help me replace devices. And now I have got a great iPad that I just love to look at. They did the same for my iPhone 6 after I found a dead pixel, they went out of their way to find a uniform screen.

The reason I was saying I was going to look at competitors was because for quite some time I haven't been able to make it through 1 day without the battery of an iPhone 5, 6, 7 and 5C dying on me while people in my environment use their phones much more (I disable push, background refresh, location services etc and have been doing that for years) and still get much more out of their batteries. Combine that with the now long waiting time for a "maybe" good screen and yes; maybe I need a year in the other camp to see how things are over there. And yes; I spoke a bit prematurely. Apple is helping me now with these exact issues, they acknowledged all of them and are in daily contact with me to get my battery life fixed and my iPhone 7 replaced.

The 7 is a lottery though, as always the first few months. I should've known better than to pre-order immediately and that is my own fault of course. But we should not accept faulty devices or mechanisms and just tell ourselves that we are to blame. That is like buying a gaming PC and just accepting a microstutter because something in the GPU isn't working right because someone says; microstutter is in your head.
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I picked up my new Mercedes Benz last week and the air conditioning was a lot warmer than my previous one. I returned it to dealer for another one. Took me three tries before I got one that was as cool as my trade in. I tried the floor models and they had various different air temps. Not like MB to have such inconsistencies.

I actually had this happen with Peugeot; my AC was not cool enough in the summer (this is in the Netherlands, it was 34 degrees celsius). When I was in Japan the simplest daihatsu's had AC's that put my car to shame, But people around me said it was a-okay and I was just sensitive to the heat.

Turned out I had to go to the dealer where they actually measured that the air output of the AC was not different than from just using the fans; they refilled the cooling fluid and everything was fine.