I second your opinion. The yellow looks more realistic compared to the blue tint.
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I second your opinion. The yellow looks more realistic compared to the blue tint.
A few pictures I've taken with the Ipad,Tab7.7 and Tab10.1 not the most scientific way to do a comparison but suffice to say when I used the Ipad, the yellow tint was so obvious that I didnt need any comparison to notice it. Some people may not notice this as the lights in their surroundings can actually cancel out much of the yellow tint but if you start to use the ipad in low light situations then you start to see the difference, unless using the ipad in your bed room with zero light is not part of what is considered a normal use.
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That is two independent sources now which have shown that the display, rather than being yellow, is actually close to being ideally calibrated. And for the record, 6500K is not even a neutral white, it's still tinted blue. (D55 is closest to neutral white)Sorry, but I simply do NOT believe you, even with the graphs. Either your comparison data is skewed in some way or your iPad is not one of the yellow tinged ones or you are simply manipulating the data or maybe you work for Apple. Whatever.
The whites are yellow on the iPad 3. Period. End of story. Hold up a friggin white piece of paper or ANYTHING pure white next to a white screen on the iPad 3 and you are blind if you think that the screen is a pure white. It's crazy that people are saying that it's not yellow. You can SEE it in the picture above. It's not an optical illusion. It's friggin' YELLOW. There is no testing in the world that would convince me that it's not. It just is. It's not rocket science - it's vision. Jeez....
Expect the same results when Anandtech gets their review done, or Displaymate posts their results on Monday.
The problem is that you are used to looking at blue displays, so when you see an accurate one, it looks yellow in comparison.
White paper, especially cheap printer paper is not white either. They have optical brighteners which basically means they're blue, and the colour depends on the light they are being viewed under.
What I will say though, is that the new iPad definitely has a greenish-yellow tint when viewing it at an angle. Strangely, this is directional for me. If I have the iPad lying flat on a table in portrait with the home button at the bottom, the top of my screen shows this. If I flip it over, it's the bottom that shows it. (you would expect it to be the same both ways)
I suspect this panel is using Samsung's Super PLS technology, whereas IPS panels tend to lose more brightness & contrast and turn blue at an angle:
It will be interesting to see what happens if Sharp panels are introduced into the mix. Their displays have typically been quite poor at wide viewing angles, but are usually quite efficient. I think someone else mentioned that there will probably be LG panels going into these at a later date as well. Expect lower contrast, more brightness drop at an angle, and uniformity problems from them but they might match your iPad 2!
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Have you seen a Galaxy Tab 10.1 in person? Would you say the whites they have are neutral? Because when I compared it side by side with the Ipad, Tab7.7 and an Iphone4 ( not in the picture) I found the Tab10.1 to have best white tones, at least in my own perspective.. the iphone4 showed to be a bit on the blue tinted side.
Also are you saying for certain that Samsung made retina display screens will be the best in the bunch? Unlike other brands, here in the Philippines we cant just open up the box and discard it if its yellow, they actually require a purchase before you can open up one, else they will just direct you to the demo units.
Have you seen a Galaxy Tab 10.1 in person? Would you say the whites they have are neutral? Because when I compared it side by side with the Ipad, Tab7.7 and an Iphone4 ( not in the picture) I found the Tab10.1 to have best white tones, at least in my own perspective.. the iphone4 showed to be a bit on the blue tinted side.
Also are you saying for certain that Samsung made retina display screens will be the best in the bunch? Unlike other brands, here in the Philippines we cant just open up the box and discard it if its yellow, they actually require a purchase before you can open up one, else they will just direct you to the demo units.
I think the warm tint does show the best looking images.
I'm not exactly a Ken Rockwell type of photographer, but I use a set of warm cards with my Nikon DSLR all the time. If I want colors to pop, I set my white balance using the Warm 2 card, then adjust the color saturation setting up a couple of notches. Colors look better than they did in person!
On a different note, I have a THX certified plasma TV and in THX mode the color temperature setting sets itself to Warm2 - the warmest setting available. I also have a second plasma TV, the one in my signature, which is calibrated so whites look pure white and colors are supposed to be "accurate". Last night I compared it to my new iPad watching some Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex episodes. Color tone and saturation was much more pleasing on the new iPad whereas colors on the calibrated plasma were subdued.
I'm not exactly a Ken Rockwell type of photographer, but I use a set of warm cards with my Nikon DSLR all the time. If I want colors to pop, I set my white balance using the Warm 2 card, then adjust the color saturation setting up a couple of notches. Colors look better than they did in person!
On a different note, I have a THX certified plasma TV and in THX mode the color temperature setting sets itself to Warm2 - the warmest setting available. I also have a second plasma TV, the one in my signature, which is calibrated so whites look pure white and colors are supposed to be "accurate". Last night I compared it to my new iPad watching some Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex episodes. Color tone and saturation was much more pleasing on the new iPad whereas colors on the calibrated plasma were subdued.
Then your iPad 1 is off as well. I agree with Tony here. Throw out all that fancy equipment and simply hold the iPad up against a plain white piece of paper. If the iPad looks yellow, then that's what it is ... the hell with all this technical jargon. Sometimes a little common sense goes a long way.
Did you not read? I said the white piece of paper matches the 3rd gen ipad more then the 1st gen ipad.
We have gotten so use to blue white tint...we can't see it washes out other colors and we end up not having a accurate display.
You need to get new paper then.
My white paper matches my new white t-shirt matches my white furniture and matches everything I have that's white. It's WHITE. It's an absolute color. The iPad 3 screen looks YELLOW compared to ANYTHING that I have that's white. It just does. And look at the PICTURES above and tell me that's not yellow!! Some people may prefer this, but you can't say it's not yellow. Boy oh boy -You guys are insane.....You need to get new paper then.
People can convince themselves of anything ...
Tried 3 new IPads, retuned all of them :-(
Hello,
Once I recognised the yellow tint on my new IPad, I returned it to the Apple Store. Tried two others there, but same yellow display tint So I stay with my IPad 2 which looks much better.
I don't think anybody here appreciates reading emails and surfing in the web without whites being displayed as whites!
Also the viewing angle stability is very poor compared to the IPad 2.Don't like changing tint and contrast when tilting slightly the new IPad.
I am sure Apple changed to "cheaper" technologies for their Screens (same issue was for the IPhone 4S).
Sorry Apple, really not fair to display in the Apple Stores just new IPads with perfect, white screens, but to delivery only poor yellow ones!
Hello,
Once I recognised the yellow tint on my new IPad, I returned it to the Apple Store. Tried two others there, but same yellow display tint
So I stay with my IPad 2 which looks much better. I don't think anybody here appreciates reading emails and surfing in the web without whites being displayed as whites!
Also the viewing angle stability is very poor compared to the IPad 2.
Don't like changing tint and contrast when tilting slightly the new IPad. I am sure Apple changed to "cheaper" technologies for their Screens (same issue was for the IPhone 4S).
Sorry Apple, really not fair to display in the Apple Stores just new IPads with perfect, white screens, but to delivery only poor yellow ones!
You need to get new paper then.
You're more concern with being right...then being opened minded.
Yes..a lot of things in the real world like paper is going to look white, but when you compare them to a blue white tint...they are going to look yellow white.
The point is even tho you can get a super clean white. The drawback is you get less accurate color all around, from that same blue tint.
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Mine is starting to look a lot better as it gets more use. The splotches seem to have gone away
Taking the auto-brightness off helps a lot as well as being aware of the ambient lighting.
Not at all. Samsung's displays are typically very blue, with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 measuring over 8300K here: http://www.displaymate.com/Samsung_Galaxy_Tab_ShootOut.htm
I expect that it will be between the Samsung and Sharp panels, if they are available later. I expect that the LG panels will be inferior, though they may be more pleasing to people complaining of this screen being yellow.*
Unfortunately, I set up my camera to do a couple of comparisons, but had left it on low quality JPEG, so I can't really crop the comparison photos I did.
(I had hoped to be able to compare text quality here, the simple answer is that the iPad is sharper, but the Kindle is easier to read in good light)
Your white t-shirt is also blue.You need to get new paper then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_brightener
im so irked by this. got m 6 and final ipad. screen is beautifully white, love it, etc etc. Then i go into imessage, split the keyboard and the left side has a yellow tint to it while the right is perfectly white/gray. like wtf. 6 freaking ipads and there all tinted yellow. the other parts of the screen are SO WHITE, even blueish but then that left side of the keyboard is yellow. gets more noticeable if the brightness is low.
i just dont know wtf to do now. if i should just return and wait a couple weeks till this nonsense sorts itself out.
i just dont know wtf to do now. if i should just return and wait a couple weeks till this nonsense sorts itself out.
Thank God for a person with reason!
Thank you for this post: There IS a limit for how much silly things that can be said (and probably also meant!) about white color, with naturally the fact in mind that there ARE different nuances of white. But, in this context: Please...
You need to get new paper then.
Thank you for this post: There IS a limit for how much silly things that can be said (and probably also meant!) about white color, with naturally the fact in mind that there ARE different nuances of white. But, in this context: Please...
some of the floor models are yellowish too. for my stores it seemed as though the white model had the better screens then their counterparts.
Dude, relax. There's no rush.
I got an uneven screen as well, left side is yellow while right side of the screen is noticeably cooler when held in portrait mode. Just relax and give it a few weeks. The issue is hardware related (no glue or anything like that) and will likely not go away. So there's nothing you can do right now. And quit exchanging iPads like a madman. Just enjoy the heck out of your iPad knowing full-well that you can exchange it 4 weeks from now. So why don't you use your iPad to the fullest extend and then just swap it for a brandnew one that will likely be produced maybe in the first week of April or so, when there's not such a huge rush to get out units quickly. And then workers will be more efficient and less prone to errors assembling these devices...
I will stick to mine for a month or so and then see if the issue still bothers me. Then you can always exchange it.
It might just be me but i hate using a device that i know i'll be returning. i like to get a device and treat it like its mine. Not baby it or get over protective of anything that might happen cause i have to return it. knowing i'll be returning it kind of ruins the point of ownership to me.
Then think of it as test driving the device before you get your real new and shiny iPad in the near future. Sort of like a loaner to get familiar with it first.
I'd use it just like it was mine. Actually, if I knew I'd be keeping it for a year, I might even be MORE protective of it. If I know I am going to exchange it in a month or so, I wouldn't actually worry about things like calibrating the battery or letting my girlfriend use it while she's sipping her tea or eating oranges while touching it with her sticky fingers, lol.
Both sides are valid, but without the science then nobody would understand the piece of paper test. It is also easy to do the paper test wrong, and misunderstand the results.
Then again, go do whatever you want, because a lot of people have already decided they are right, despite the evidence on either side of the argument. We can have a discussion of reason and debate with real facts, or we can act like children and ignore the help that has been given.
Interesting, I didnt even notice a hint of bluetint even when compared to a professional grade white photo paper. At least the 8300K is only limited to its white tones, compared to the ipad the entire display is warmer. I think I need to see how this 'D6500' whites should look like in person.
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