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Zune HD Hands on Demo and Impressions

You know guys, I'd hate to bring this up, but even while Microsoft is just developing off of Apple, Apple didn't just develop off of their own "original" idea, you know... coughCreativecoughcough?
 
GC Jr said:
You know guys, I'd hate to bring this up, but even while Microsoft is just developing off of Apple, Apple didn't just develop off of their own "original" idea, you know... coughCreativecoughcough?
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No, they just took a average product and revolutionized it.
 
NT1440 said:
Thanks Anuba for bringing this up!

This is a point I've been wanting to address based on what I have seen coming from MS in the last 18 months or so. THEY ARE TRYING. Yes you read that right, they are actually trying to be competitive again.
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My sentiments exactly. In hindsight it was fortunate that Vista sucked as much as it did, or they'd still be complacent. They still have some way to go, especially in terms of taste (for instance, why was the corny Win7 RC logon screen designed for 8 year old girls? Hummingbirds and flowers?!), but there's definitely a wind of change blowing in Redmond. Not sure what's going on in Cupertino, though... maybe they're becoming complacent. Announcing a new finish on the back of the iPhone every June isn't gonna cut it anymore.
 
Anuba said:
I'd say that nearly all current shows are 16:9, and have been for 4-5 years. The only shows I watch that are still stuck in 4:3 limbo are South Park and Family Guy. Everything else (Lost, Heroes, 30 Rock, The Office to name but a few) is 16:9.
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Even the local news is in 16:9 now. Well at least on anything watching it over digital.

Journojulz said:
Ta, I feel I have learned something new.
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And now you know.

mosx said:
I have a perfect example for you. This just happened to me in the last 30 minutes.

I was browsing the web in Firefox, latest version plus Ad Block Plus. I also had Adium open with one chat window and Mail was open sitting in the background. I quit Firefox because I was done with it. Upon closing, I notice the dock didn't reflect the change in Firefox. I try to click the Dock and nothing happens. I click the Apple logo in the top left and nothing happens. Finder is frozen. Great. I bring the little window via the keyboard commands, click Relaunch on Finder (Firefox is not in the list of running apps at this point) and nothing happens. I try again, nothing happens.

So I wait a few minutes and try again, nothing happens. At this point though, the Apple menu works. So I click restart. The menubar at the top disappears but the dock stays. After 10 minutes nothing has happened. I have to force shut down the system via the power button.

OS X. It just works :rolleyes:

Things like that don't happen in XP, Vista, or Windows 7.
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I've had this happen far too often in OS X. With nothing written to the logs. The same thing with the weird sleep issues. Hard rebooting time with no report on it.
 
Negatives IMHO:
-Pig ugly Menu's, too much text (some text cropped), icons far too small.
-Design that would be awesome if it was released in 1983.
-Doesn't actually play back HD on screen.

Postivie, maybe:
-OLED screen (how long do they last?)
 
Treq said:
That's another great thing about Macs, they don't slow down over time like windows machines do.
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I work in uk local gov. My desktop dell is 3 years old with another 12 months to run.

It's painful. But there is no way the it sept could do clean installs on every machine and field the calls.

Fortunately I got work to buy me a MacBook - and you should have seen their faces when I showed them what keynote does!
 
Anuba said:
My sentiments exactly. In hindsight it was fortunate that Vista sucked as much as it did, or they'd still be complacent. They still have some way to go, especially in terms of taste (for instance, why was the corny Win7 RC logon screen designed for 8 year old girls? Hummingbirds and flowers?!), but there's definitely a wind of change blowing in Redmond. Not sure what's going on in Cupertino, though... maybe they're becoming complacent. Announcing a new finish on the back of the iPhone every June isn't gonna cut it anymore.
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Oh come on man, you were doing so well!

Apple is secretive, we have no clue what they are up to. We keep hearing how they get complacent every year and then they knock our socks off again and again.

Is it possible to give both companies the same chance and say "lets see what comes out of this" instead of only extending that branch to one or the other?
 
Journojulz said:
Anyone know how many tv shows are 16:9?

If it can't 'fit to screen', then you are going to spend a lot of time with black horizontal bands on your display with a screen 270 pixels high.

And I would assume the same will go for photos.....
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A better question is what shows are NOT 16x9 these days? Even South Park is broadcast in high def now, plus Matt and Trey have said they're going back and re-rendering every show from every season in high def.

The "zoom to fit" feature of the iPod touch and iPhone isn't a good solution for 4x3 content anyway, considering it chops off parts of the top and bottom to fill the screen. It's better to leave things at the original aspect ratio

Treq said:
Nope, this does...
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Oh thanks for reminding me of what a blue screen of death looks like. I haven't seen Windows bluescreen since around 2001 so I had forgotten what it looks like.

I am very familiar with how OS X locks up though.
 
MacAndy74 said:
-Doesn't actually play back HD on screen.
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How could that possibly be a negative? You wouldn't ever be able to tell the difference with a 3" screen!

It takes at least a 30" screen to tell the difference between good 720 and 1080, HD mobile is just pointless IMO.
 
Journojulz said:
For the sake of argument, can we list them so we can see what's new?

OLED
Fm radio
Play hd video/pictures though a hdtv
Retro design
Rival GUI
Rival media cataloguing software
Plays flash web graphics

What else?
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Wireless audio/video library sync (I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Draft-N WiFi in order to make this truly useful)

120 GB storage on the top-of-the-line model (Apple has yet to figure out how to merge the iPod Touch with the iPod Classic, or so it seems...)
 
Ditto

Treq said:
You have to admit though, OS X is 10 times more stable than windows.
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Yep, correct. For me Windoze is synonymous for crashes in the past prior to moving to the Mac and still to this day at work where all the PC's in my office are Windoze based Dell systems. The most lame piece of hardware money can buy.

Zune, looks okay but nothing to really differentiate it from the crowd. There's a real lack of class to it. UI looks messy.
 
mosx said:
Oh thanks for reminding me of what a blue screen of death looks like. I haven't seen Windows bluescreen since around 2001 so I had forgotten what it looks like.
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Funnily enough, there isn't even a blue screen of death in Vista right? I heard they changed it (never gotten one, freezes yes, blue screen no).
 
Treq said:
No, they just took a average product and revolutionized it.
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Right. Go ahead and place it in politically correct terms.

If Apple didn't take the idea to create the iPod, they would've been absolutely dead through this recession.
 
Anuba said:
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120 GB storage on the top-of-the-line model (Apple has yet to figure out how to merge the iPod Touch with the iPod Classic, or so it seems...)
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That would be because Flash based memory is the future. Have you seen coverflow on the Classic? its relatively smooth, but blown away by the smoothness of the touch.
 
Treq said:
You'll have to show me what that looks like. Never seen it.
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I'll have to take a video or it then and the inability to do anything via Force Quit.

Browsers, Finder, and iTunes are the most common causes.

NT1440 said:
Funnily enough, there isn't even a blue screen of death in Vista right? I heard they changed it (never gotten one, freezes yes, blue screen no).
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I remember on BSOD under 7 but it was my fault.

Everything from else from 2003 - present under XP or Vista is my fault as well for overclocking too far. Oops?
 
Eidorian said:
What?
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Hes just talking about mosx, who literally shows up once a blue moon to post about his horrid OSX experience and is gone for a week or two after.

(note that this isn't flaming, its 100% true)

This site attracts a wide variety of people, and thats what makes it great. We don't need an echochamber here.
 
NT1440 said:
Hes just talking about mosx, who literally shows up once a blue moon to post about his horrid OSX experience and is gone for a week or two after.

(note that this isn't flaming, its 100% true)

This site attracts a wide variety of people, and thats what makes it great. We don't need an echochamber here.
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For once we're not getting a wall of multi-quoted text.

But mosx is being very tame with experiences that I have sadly had to share under OS X. Word for word.
 
NT1440 said:
Hes just talking about mosx, who literally shows up once a blue moon to post about his horrid OSX experience and is gone for a week or two after.

(note that this isn't flaming, its 100% true)

This site attracts a wide variety of people, and thats what makes it great. We don't need an echochamber here.
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Agreed. But, "Things like that don't happen in XP, Vista, or Windows 7." Really?
 
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