That doesn't seem to be the case, if it doesn't play it one, it doesn't play in others.
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{01-FEB-2020} SMtube 20.1.0 (OS X 10.5.8) (alternative for Youview/Mactubes/Mobile Youtube) INSTALLER
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That doesn't seem to be the case, if it doesn't play it one, it doesn't play in others.
My mistake!
I will sit tight until the pros sort this out in a lovely App for us all to enjoy
Well, it's a statistical improbability but I estimate 90% of the videos I want to watch won't work but 90% of random test clicks do :/
I hoped to install the macports Mplayer, then compile SMplayer and use that - just to see if it made a difference - but Mplayer failed to install (Ghostscript/Python errors).
So....I've decided to quit on SMtube and install Leopard again - I wasn't keen on having all that extra xcode/macports clutter around.
Many thanks again for doing this Lastic - it's great that you and others are still pushing these machines for what they are worth.
It's worth noting though, that for any video that SMtube can't play, copying the link and opening PPC Media Centre is only a few clicks away..
Macports is good if it works, I've had to manually correct a lot of failed dependencies with several ports also, luckily I have a basic understanding of the process due to my C(++) knowledge from school 24 years ago.
I can't even remember how I got mplayer to install.
I am probably out of the loop, but are you suggesting that there are better YouTube options in Leopard?
Dustin
You mean this app thing you guys are working on works on all videos under Leopard and not Tiger
or
You mean that you have a higher powered G5 and it can run YT videos fine on Leopard regardless?
or
You mean that you have a higher powered G5 and it can run YT videos fine on Leopard regardless?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/smtube/files/SMTube/17.1.0/smtube-17.1.0.tar.bz2
Maybe this one plays all, instead of the 16.x
I can see that when SMtube can play is a choice. Just like Webkit and T4F.
If we are keen on having Xcode+Macports+TigerBrew we will have more choices. Not only with SMtube, but also with future software releases. I am interested in Xcode also because I want to try if my G4 "Farm"/Cluster (Dual 1.8, Dual 1 and Dual 866) can encode faster.
I am really busy right now to try, but Xcode is on my list of software to be installed.
We can try other Qt versions also, or dig the Qt dependencies to make a C+ or Java Qt-less SMtube.
Maybe this one plays all, instead of the 16.x
I can see that when SMtube can play is a choice. Just like Webkit and T4F.
If we are keen on having Xcode+Macports+TigerBrew we will have more choices. Not only with SMtube, but also with future software releases. I am interested in Xcode also because I want to try if my G4 "Farm"/Cluster (Dual 1.8, Dual 1 and Dual 866) can encode faster.
I am really busy right now to try, but Xcode is on my list of software to be installed.
We can try other Qt versions also, or dig the Qt dependencies to make a C+ or Java Qt-less SMtube.
I think what Dronecatcher means is playback of the actual Youtube video.
I can only tell from my usage which is on Leopard on a Powerbook G4 12" 1.5Ghz,
Dronecatcher was install on a 15" which has 2 GB of RAM instead of my 1,25 GB RAM and he has a faster processor.
Current situation ( other members correct me if I'm wrong ) of Youtube 2017
Flash is not recent on PPC so HTML5 playback is the best option but it's very resource heavy for a G4.
Playing Youtube in a browser
TFF/Safari Webkit playback on youtube.com using HTML5 is too slow on a G4
Playing Youtube in a browser using a plugin
ClicktoPlugin will allow you to take your Youtube.com search result and play it in Quicktime or download it where you can than open it in any videoplayer.
However this means opening a browser on the resource heavy Youtube.com site and then opening Quicktime to play the file
Playing Youtube in a browser by impersonating a mobile device
You can change your User Agent in a browser as such you will receive the mobile version of Youtube.com which is less resource hungry but the interface is off course for a mobile device and less elaborate as the full website version.
Using a GUI to access Youtube videos without using a browser
Youview worked up to a while ago but only for certain videos and now it seems to be unable to load any video. It shows results fetched from Youtube.com but you can't open them .
Mactubes broke when Google updated the Youtube API's so it won't even show search results which it tries to fetch from Youtube.com .
PPCMediaCenter for this you need to browse to Youtube.com , copy the link , then open this application and it will play the feed in Quicktime ?
As such it means browsing and using an app .
SMtube is a part of SMplayer which was designed to be a GUI frontend for mplayer on Linux primarely , it relies on the Qt4 Framework for it's windows and GUI interface.
SMtube however can be told to send the Youtube URL to other players apart from mplayer.
It functions by using thonvid.com which is a HTML5 resource friendly copy of Youtube.com created by the developers of SMplayer.
Since we can install Qt4-mac via Macports, and the C compilers (gcc/make) are installed with Xcode , we can compile the generic SMtube sourcecode and have a GUI frontend from which we can launch the result to a videoplayer.
However as Dronecatcher noticed, thonvid.com seems to have random restrictions on the videos it can play, remember it's a copy of Youtube.com not Youtube itself.
The videos I want to watch seem to be there, for Dronecatcher not.
Creating an APP version of smtube which installs all the 10.5.8 PPC dependencies is a task I won't be able to do since I'm not a developer and my programming background is prehistoric.
SMtube can be installed using the procedure I described in my first post but I only run Leopard so it's for Leopard only.
Once installed however you either may be able to play the videos you want to see or not, it depends on what you are searching and thonvid delivering or not delivering the video feed.
For my search queries it has done a good job but there a lot of Youtube videos.
I can only tell from my usage which is on Leopard on a Powerbook G4 12" 1.5Ghz,
Dronecatcher was install on a 15" which has 2 GB of RAM instead of my 1,25 GB RAM and he has a faster processor.
Current situation ( other members correct me if I'm wrong ) of Youtube 2017
Flash is not recent on PPC so HTML5 playback is the best option but it's very resource heavy for a G4.
Playing Youtube in a browser
TFF/Safari Webkit playback on youtube.com using HTML5 is too slow on a G4
Playing Youtube in a browser using a plugin
ClicktoPlugin will allow you to take your Youtube.com search result and play it in Quicktime or download it where you can than open it in any videoplayer.
However this means opening a browser on the resource heavy Youtube.com site and then opening Quicktime to play the file
Playing Youtube in a browser by impersonating a mobile device
You can change your User Agent in a browser as such you will receive the mobile version of Youtube.com which is less resource hungry but the interface is off course for a mobile device and less elaborate as the full website version.
Using a GUI to access Youtube videos without using a browser
Youview worked up to a while ago but only for certain videos and now it seems to be unable to load any video. It shows results fetched from Youtube.com but you can't open them .
Mactubes broke when Google updated the Youtube API's so it won't even show search results which it tries to fetch from Youtube.com .
PPCMediaCenter for this you need to browse to Youtube.com , copy the link , then open this application and it will play the feed in Quicktime ?
As such it means browsing and using an app .
SMtube is a part of SMplayer which was designed to be a GUI frontend for mplayer on Linux primarely , it relies on the Qt4 Framework for it's windows and GUI interface.
SMtube however can be told to send the Youtube URL to other players apart from mplayer.
It functions by using thonvid.com which is a HTML5 resource friendly copy of Youtube.com created by the developers of SMplayer.
Since we can install Qt4-mac via Macports, and the C compilers (gcc/make) are installed with Xcode , we can compile the generic SMtube sourcecode and have a GUI frontend from which we can launch the result to a videoplayer.
However as Dronecatcher noticed, thonvid.com seems to have random restrictions on the videos it can play, remember it's a copy of Youtube.com not Youtube itself.
The videos I want to watch seem to be there, for Dronecatcher not.
Creating an APP version of smtube which installs all the 10.5.8 PPC dependencies is a task I won't be able to do since I'm not a developer and my programming background is prehistoric.
SMtube can be installed using the procedure I described in my first post but I only run Leopard so it's for Leopard only.
Once installed however you either may be able to play the videos you want to see or not, it depends on what you are searching and thonvid delivering or not delivering the video feed.
For my search queries it has done a good job but there a lot of Youtube videos.
Lastic has pretty much answered this for me but yes, there are other less elegant but more reliable ways to play Youtube and I've detailed some here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/youtube-options-in-2016.1986056/#post-23195872
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/youtube-on-a-g3.2022464/#post-24089421
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mactubes-in-2017-or-alternatives.2029860/#post-24246939
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/g5-quad-playing-1080p-youtube-in-flash-2016.1989773/
My G5s can play Youtube from the browser as normal but G4s need alternatives - my favourite is Omniweb/mobile device agent, the site is free of junk and ads, quick to navigate and the video plays instantly. If I want a high quality version or download, I can copy the link and pass it to PPC Media Centre.
Lastic's SMtube is the most streamlined solution but as I've said, as luck would have it, about 90% of videos I tried to watch wouldn't load.
Can you give me some examples of videos that didn't work, I will give them a try with the new source-code this evening.
Thanks for the clarification. I am familiar with most of the ways EXCEPT the Omniweb way which I will try this weekend.
From memory, these didn't work:
They don't work on Linux SMtube either but that's out of date too - I'm running system wide updates on that machine to see if the new SMplayer/SMtube fixes the issues.
EDIT: Lastic, the update in Linux to version 17 fixed these videos - looking good for PPC compiled version
As a side note, my Linux laptop running a 1.2Ghz Core Duo plays these 360P vids at about 7% CPU.
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All 3 links work with the newer smtube source code , I will update my first post to point to the newer source code .
I tried them with 360/720p mp4 on Coreplayer on my PB G4 12".
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But I also tested them now with the previous source-code compiled app and they play also with the 16.x.x version ?
[doublepost=1486142796][/doublepost]Maybe the developers changed something on Thonvid also allow more search results to play ?
From memory, these didn't work:
They don't work on Linux SMtube either but that's out of date too - I'm running system wide updates on that machine to see if the new SMplayer/SMtube fixes the issues.
EDIT: Lastic, the update in Linux to version 17 fixed these videos - looking good for PPC compiled version
As a side note, my Linux laptop running a 1.2Ghz Core Duo plays these 360P vids at about 7% CPU.
The results are that the newer compiled source code ( see how to in the updated 1st post ) on Leopard now seems to be able to play the videos that Dronecatcher couldn't play with the previous version.
Dronecatcher tested the newer smtube on Linux and was able to play these same videos he couldn't play before.
But off course we are 2 people with different Youtube tastes so we can't account for all videos that are available on
Youtube
So, to recap, I just need to install the few apps/tools mentions in original post then "compile" the App? Is there a "pre-compiled" App I can DL from you that will work as long as I have the aforementioned apps/tools installed?
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So 720p YouTube playback is now possible (without downloading) even on G4s? Great news here
@Dronecatcher Does your compiled version work on every Mac or I have to install xcode and macports too?
@Dronecatcher Does your compiled version work on every Mac or I have to install xcode and macports too?