LaMerVipere said:
Does anyone have the direct quote of what Steve said? I feel like he did say use the words "promise" or "guarantee". I seem to remember it being much more vague than that.
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Does anyone have the direct quote of what Steve said? I feel like he did say use the words "promise" or "guarantee". I seem to remember it being much more vague than that.
applecrag said:
WWDC is a DEVELOPER'S conference. Developer's write software for the Mac platform. Expanding the Mac platform (G5) is what developers want to hear. Maybe we'll finally get some software to exploit the G5 which is now a paper tiger.
sblasl said:
And developer's don't use or need hardware? These are the machines that the developer's are developing for so it makes perfect sense to make the announcement at WWDC. Why would they have announced the original G5 PowerMac at last year's conference if the developers don't care about new hardware?
i wonder which will be longer, the powermac g5 rev 2 release forum or the powerbook g5 release forum....Wunder if either will beat the Drunk Thread's record
Am I the only fool?
Am I the only fool waiting for updates so I can buy dual 1.8s at a reduced price?
Honestly, I haven't had to wait for my computer for years... I design much slower than my g4 533 processes.
So... the question is... if Thinksecret's price scale is right, am I better off buying 3 dual 1.8s or 3 dual 2.0s?
I've seen mixed reports about the speed and reliability of the two.
Any advice would be welcomed.
Am I the only fool waiting for updates so I can buy dual 1.8s at a reduced price?
Honestly, I haven't had to wait for my computer for years... I design much slower than my g4 533 processes.
So... the question is... if Thinksecret's price scale is right, am I better off buying 3 dual 1.8s or 3 dual 2.0s?
I've seen mixed reports about the speed and reliability of the two.
Any advice would be welcomed.
rdowns said:
Thank you! I have been trying to say this throughout the thread. The more computers that have G5 the more programs will be written/optimized for it.
If Apple announced that the G4 was being taken out of the entire line-up, the developers of Mac software would all have to start seriously churning out G5 code. (This is not going to happen I am just trying to make a point that it does make sense to announce new hardware at this conference).
Greedy PPL
I dont care if the 3Ghz G5s come out in June, as long as they come out by the end of Summer. I just can't imagine the day where Macs will have faster clock speeds than a PC. The PC users won't have anything to make fun of us except for compatibility (VIRTUAL PC!). Maybe then people will start getting Macs and then when Microsucks goes out of business, Apple will rule the computer industry. But I do admit that people should think about this. The PowerMacs will have gone from 1.42Ghz(G4) to 2Ghz(G5) to 2.6Ghz(G5) to 3Ghz(G5) in less than 2 years. That's a great accomplishment. Thats more than twice as fast in two years. Even if we don't get a 3Ghz by August/September, there has never been a time where in 2 years Apple has gone up over 1Ghz (BTW the minimum speed is now 1Ghz also). Don't act like Apple sucks just because they don't have 400Mhz in extra uneeded speed.
I dont care if the 3Ghz G5s come out in June, as long as they come out by the end of Summer. I just can't imagine the day where Macs will have faster clock speeds than a PC. The PC users won't have anything to make fun of us except for compatibility (VIRTUAL PC!). Maybe then people will start getting Macs and then when Microsucks goes out of business, Apple will rule the computer industry. But I do admit that people should think about this. The PowerMacs will have gone from 1.42Ghz(G4) to 2Ghz(G5) to 2.6Ghz(G5) to 3Ghz(G5) in less than 2 years. That's a great accomplishment. Thats more than twice as fast in two years. Even if we don't get a 3Ghz by August/September, there has never been a time where in 2 years Apple has gone up over 1Ghz (BTW the minimum speed is now 1Ghz also). Don't act like Apple sucks just because they don't have 400Mhz in extra uneeded speed.
applecrag said:i just cant wait to see how these run virtual pc
There is no version of Virtual PC that runs on a G5.
applecrag said:
Well, considering most developers develop software for 'consumers,' I think it makes perfect sense.
They won't.applecrag said:i just cant wait to see how these run virtual pc
(Not at least until MicroSoft releases the delayed version that runs on the G5)
The only thing that would stop me from getting a 2.6 G5 would be if it has basically the same guts as the current G5.
I am wondering if we get new displays too.
I am wondering if we get new displays too.
Promises, Promises
I do believe we are going to see dual 2.6 machines tomorrow and no way in hell 3.0 machines at WWDC unless it's in a machine designed for a different audience (not likely). Namely because people who buy one tomorrow (including me) would have a fit if this happened. We may see 3.0 updates in 3 months, but I'm not counting on that either. I'm currently reading Apple Confidential 2.0 - Steve has made many promises over the years (including overly optimistic unit sales predictions). Many which didn't even come close to being true. I think he was just trying to emphasize the scalability of the new architecture.
But why rev. b G5's & air-tunes express (very cool) right now and not at WWDC? Perhaps partly to diffuse WWDC disappointment at not hitting 3 Ghz. Also, certainly the focus will be on Tiger and maybe a G5 iMac, but I agree that that's not all that exciting to the WWDC crowd. So I think there will be something else, but what - I have no idea. All very exciting!
-GM
gomotron.com
I do believe we are going to see dual 2.6 machines tomorrow and no way in hell 3.0 machines at WWDC unless it's in a machine designed for a different audience (not likely). Namely because people who buy one tomorrow (including me) would have a fit if this happened. We may see 3.0 updates in 3 months, but I'm not counting on that either. I'm currently reading Apple Confidential 2.0 - Steve has made many promises over the years (including overly optimistic unit sales predictions). Many which didn't even come close to being true. I think he was just trying to emphasize the scalability of the new architecture.
But why rev. b G5's & air-tunes express (very cool) right now and not at WWDC? Perhaps partly to diffuse WWDC disappointment at not hitting 3 Ghz. Also, certainly the focus will be on Tiger and maybe a G5 iMac, but I agree that that's not all that exciting to the WWDC crowd. So I think there will be something else, but what - I have no idea. All very exciting!
-GM
gomotron.com
pjkelnhofer said:
Jobs took the stage and said, "What about the future? We're at 2 GHz today. IBM and Apple are today announcing that within 12 months, we'll be at 3GHz." Verbatim quote.
See the keynote here:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/wwdc03/
Sorry, don't remember where Steve says it.
Transcribing from the earlier post's link to a quicktime movie:pjkelnhofer said:
[edit - added]
I don't think an "announcement" qualifies as binding in a court of law so to to the guy/gal earlier that asked if it was legal - um, no. I doubt it. I'm no lawyer, but I presume that if anyone even tried to sue them they would have to prove that Apple and/or IBM never intended to be able to do it.
Now, if 12 months from the shipping date of the 2GHz machines goes by without the 3GHz upate and Apple doesn't even say anything then they deserve to be roasted by the media. But I would think a simple, "Oops - we had some unforseen roadblocks. We'll be there a bit later than we planned", type of comment would suffice.
I hope no one gets angry about there being no iMac G5s considering no one said there was going to be any.
MacMall's free ram upgraded
I just looked at MacMall's website and their free ram upgrade for the the PowerMac's ended on Sunday (June 6th).
I just looked at MacMall's website and their free ram upgrade for the the PowerMac's ended on Sunday (June 6th).
capdesign said:
Depends on what kind of designer you are. If you are a multimedia designer (ie: video) compression times are much faster with faster processor G5's. A 600mhz jump is very noticeable.
I'm a 3D animator, and every little ounce of clockspeed is noticable.
Now I just need to figure out how Im going to pay for this thing...
Donations anyone? I'll put you in my credits for my next short film!!
I don't think Apple would jump to 3.0ghz so fast, Apple has never increased their speed by that many mhz before, so therefore whatever comes I and everyone of you should hope is $100-$200 less expensive then the current line up across the line. I have my cash waiting, but a lower price would allow for extra money to be put into a better graphics card! The new radeon's are coming with PCI-Express and 256mb of RAM come on Apple embrace them Gamers want more Mac power
Gamers want more Mac power 
It's NOT gonna happen
okay okay lads no need to worry!! My "source" has informed me that Apple will give us a dual 3Ghz G5 at WWDC. My source being a very shifty looking man down a dark alley....
okay okay lads no need to worry!! My "source" has informed me that Apple will give us a dual 3Ghz G5 at WWDC. My source being a very shifty looking man down a dark alley....
OK, let me begin by stating my lack of technical sophistication, please bear in mind ...I just have some questions after reading through most of this thread, and I apologize if this has been covered ad nauseum in other threads...
1. So there is a brief mention of the *possibility* of a quad-pocessor workstation/high-end model...I am curious as to whether the benefits of the additional processors would be worth the added costs...is any software written to take advantage of four processors (that is relevant)...is there a possibility of this pertaining to multi-core processors instead...seems like an intriguing idea, but not very pragmatic...anyone with pertinent tech knowledge want to help me out...?
2. What are the chances that rev. b PMs (at whatever speed) will have room for another optical drive or other functionality/architectural changes...I am not sure if the new processors will require a revised cooling system...plus, they have had a year to mess around with the machine between updates...just curious...possibilities?
3. Perusing another thread, concerning wireless firewire, the possibility of wireless monitors was raised...probable? This would more than make up for not being 3ghz...
Thanks in advance for your opinions, comments...I personally am not in the market for a new computer till mid-fall, so I am nothing if not patient...the rabidity of some macfans is amusing...I would always prefer a well-thought-out, integrated slower computer than a poorly-designed superfast one...that is why I buy/use macs ITFP...eventually we might have both....cheers
1. So there is a brief mention of the *possibility* of a quad-pocessor workstation/high-end model...I am curious as to whether the benefits of the additional processors would be worth the added costs...is any software written to take advantage of four processors (that is relevant)...is there a possibility of this pertaining to multi-core processors instead...seems like an intriguing idea, but not very pragmatic...anyone with pertinent tech knowledge want to help me out...?
2. What are the chances that rev. b PMs (at whatever speed) will have room for another optical drive or other functionality/architectural changes...I am not sure if the new processors will require a revised cooling system...plus, they have had a year to mess around with the machine between updates...just curious...possibilities?
3. Perusing another thread, concerning wireless firewire, the possibility of wireless monitors was raised...probable? This would more than make up for not being 3ghz...
Thanks in advance for your opinions, comments...I personally am not in the market for a new computer till mid-fall, so I am nothing if not patient...the rabidity of some macfans is amusing...I would always prefer a well-thought-out, integrated slower computer than a poorly-designed superfast one...that is why I buy/use macs ITFP...eventually we might have both....cheers
Coincidence...
Hmm...Anyone think it's a coincidence that these new machines are coming out on "Bring your Credit Card to work day" : )
Hmm...Anyone think it's a coincidence that these new machines are coming out on "Bring your Credit Card to work day" : )