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2010-2011 College Football Thread
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To be fair, Florida played too much Tebow and marginalized the use of Brantley.
I believe Florida will have a great season, maybe a bowl game. Doubt it'll go to the BCS Bowl this year because of transitioning players. What to do when your university (USF) plays your favorite college football team (Gators). Or should I not care who wins and celebrate afterwards?
I doubt USF'll win next Saturday. USF is going to have a good season, but I don't think we're able to beat teams of Florida's caliber yet. Although I could be surprised. I have heard that USF fans are ruder than Florida fans, apparently.
Boise State's win does mean on thing though: whoever goes into the BCS National Championship Game this season cannot lose more than one game this season if Boise State wins every game this season.
With Boise and TCU both top five it's possible they could both run the table and put us in quite an interesting situation, especially if the other teams at the top end up with one loss somewhere along the way.
I had thought about this prior to the game, but now that the game is over and we did in fact win, I've just remembered...
Boise State received $1.25 million just for playing this game. Now, I have no idea how much of that came out of Va. Tech's pockets (being as FedEx, Allstate and ESPN were involved), but something tells me there aren't going to be too many big-time schools willing to set up similar deals after this game.
I think the Ole Miss deal for next year is around $750,000.
Boise State is a big-time program with a small-time budget, so we need these paydays, but there's no way another top 10 school is going to play us AND help us bankroll our program like that.
Of course a National Championship sure would help the ol' budget....
Boise State received $1.25 million just for playing this game. Now, I have no idea how much of that came out of Va. Tech's pockets (being as FedEx, Allstate and ESPN were involved), but something tells me there aren't going to be too many big-time schools willing to set up similar deals after this game.
I think the Ole Miss deal for next year is around $750,000.
Boise State is a big-time program with a small-time budget, so we need these paydays, but there's no way another top 10 school is going to play us AND help us bankroll our program like that.
Of course a National Championship sure would help the ol' budget....
^^That has been the problem for sooo long and it's frustrating from a fans' perspective. Too many 'big' schools are scared to play the BCS busters. TCU, Boise, Utah, etc.
It's a cliche, but...there is a reason for that. Looking through the rankings, I see that 6 of our 8 conference games are against teams currently ranked in the top 25. This includes road games at Alabama, Florida, and LSU. We have tried the tough out of conference schedule recently, and it has killed us. No thanks, I'll take the creampuffs. Had we scheduled a couple more cream puffs last season, we would have been in a bowl.
You do realize how much of a pantywaist that makes you and your team sound like, don't you?
I'd rather play a man's schedule and prove it on the field every single game, than play creampuffs every chance I'm given. You are basically saying that you're not really good enough to compete aren't you?
Not that MSU is exactly the caliber of team that I wish my Utes could get to agree to schedule us, but it's attitudes like that, combined with SEC smugness about being the undisputed best teams in football that will bring your programs down in the post BCS era!
Ha! This coming from a Utah fan. Playing in the SEC is playing a "man's schedule" without adding any great non-conference opponents. MSU plays as many ranked teams this year as Utah has played the last three regular seasons (2008, 2009, 2010 current rankings) combined. Think about that for a second before you bash anyone for playing an easy non-conference schedule, which you will (sort of) see for yourself when you move to the Pac-12 (which is only about half the football conference the SEC is right now).
You completely miss my point Ignatious. I never made the claim that Utah's schedule was difficult compared to a SEC schedule, in fact I implied the opposite when I mentioned that I'd like Utah to be able to schedule teams that are stronger than MSU.
My whole point is that it is a little bit weak when any team (or in this case it's probably more appropriate to say any conference) claims to be the best, but consistently schedules weak OOC games and thusly never has to prove their superiority against other strong teams that would like to play them.
It's like the SEC is saying, "we're the best, but we won't risk losing to you because we're scared that playing Utah, BSU, TCU, BYU, etc will show that we're not as superior as everyone thinks."
I say that if you're going to go around and claim superiority, you shouldn't shy away from any competition. If teams like Alabama and Florida, Texas and Oklahoma are really so much better than other strong non-AQ teams then beating them in addition to their conference opponents shouldn't be difficult.
It goes back to the whole playoff argument you were making earlier, shouldn't you have to beat the best to be the best? Or is making the claim and never playing anyone worth mentioning from other conferences enough, because if you think it is, you probably shouldn't be arguing for a playoff. We should just decide which conference was the toughest and crown that conference's winner as the national champion.
And until teams from the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, etc start scheduling the stronger non AQ teams, I won't put too much stock in this mythical national championship we have right now. Not while strong teams like mine are prevented from proving their worth on the field.
Pretty much this. Last year, we played the #1 toughest schedule in the country. It included: The SEC and BCS title champs (Alabama), SEC Title runner up (Florida), the ACC champs (Georgia Tech), and the C-USA runner up (Houston). We played 9 bowl teams in total, with three of them being in BCS bowls. If that isn't a "man's schedule", then I don't know what is. Playing NFL teams, maybe? During this decade, we have also played the likes of Oregon and West Virginia, including one year when they won the Big East. So, I don't really want to hear anything about scheduling.
Look, I'm not one of these idiots who chant "SEC!" at bowl games. I pretty much can't stand most of the conference. But show me another conference that has 7 teams ranked in the top 25. Show me another conference where any team will face a schedule like that. And like it or not, the SEC has stepped up in the game that matters. Argue all you want about the BCS, but the SEC has proven itself in that game.
Also, I can't speak for the rest of the conference, but one reason we don't schedule big teams like that is cost. A lot of teams from non-BCS conferences are demanding huge payouts to come play. We have one of the smallest budgets in the conference and can't pay that kind of money. We look for teams that will do a home and home or regional teams that won't charge an arm and a leg to come play.
Finally, speaking as a purely selfish fan, I honestly would have loved to swap say, Houston for a team like Memphis last year. One more win and we are in a bowl game. I'll take that over "proving ourselves" any day.
I think you are missing the point. Big conference teams typically don't need the help of "quality" noncon games to reach the championship if they go undefeated, and that's the only reason why they schedule the way they do. It has nothing to do with "ducking" quality opponents, but with creating the schedule that gives them the best chance of reaching the championship. You don't gain anything by playing six ranked conference teams and three ranked noncon teams. Just playing in that conference is enough to get you where you want to go (if you can go through unbeaten).
Then they get to prove it against a team from another conference in the postseason, which is why the bowls were invented in the first place. A playoff would mean that they would get to prove it two or three times after conference play is over, which would be even better.
Regardless, the best teams from the big conferences do play other top teams in noncon, which is why we have matchups like OSU-Miami and Alabama-Penn St. this week. If the non-AQ teams want to prove something, they've got to do it every single time they have the chance because their conferences are so weak. Boise can pump their chest out all they want (and rightfully so), but they can't really take the "everyone's ducking us" angle, because everyone else plays fewer cupcakes than they do. The non-AQ teams have way more to gain from playing those types of noncon games than the AQ-teams do, which is precisely why I advocate a playoff. Not because we ned more "big" games early in the season, but because we need more meaningful games in the postseason.
At the end of the day I'm okay with the current system because it has allowed our program to grow very quickly. We have the coaching talent, we have great players, but we don't have the budget to really compete on the upper-level.
At least by taking advantage of the current system we get a ton of exposure to help with recruiting.
At least by taking advantage of the current system we get a ton of exposure to help with recruiting.
Congrats to Boise St. on your great season. With this schedule, the rest is pretty much a formality, right? Are any of these teams anywhere near a challenge? If not, wouldn't any bowl game against a team that's been beaten up by good opponents be handicapped in favor of the team that beat the creampuffs? I'm just asking?
Sat, Sep 18 at Wyoming 8:00 pm --
Sat, Sep 25 Oregon State TBA --
Sat, Oct 2 at New Mexico State 8:00 pm --
Sat, Oct 9 Toledo 8:00 pm --
Sat, Oct 16 at San Jose State 8:00 pm --
Tue, Oct 26 Louisiana Tech 8:00 pm --
Sat, Nov 6 Hawaii 2:00 pm --
Fri, Nov 12 at Idaho 9:00 pm --
Fri, Nov 19 Fresno State 9:30 pm --
Fri, Nov 26 at Nevada 10:15 pm --
Sat, Dec 4 Utah State
Compare that schedule to just about any of the big conference schedules.
e.g. OSU has Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn St. and Michigan. Add Nebraska to the mix, and that conference gets even tougher.
Florida has Tennessee, Alabama, Florida State, LSU, Georgia and South Carolina.
I'm incredibly impressed with how good BS is, and how well they have played, but that schedule is just silly.
The dawgs were terrible today. Glad my Cocks beat them . 2 Wins so far we may be the champs of the SEC.
. 2 Wins so far we may be the champs of the SEC.
The dawgs were terrible today. Glad my Cocks beat them
I am in London and could not watch the game
Followed it as best I could
Looked like the Dawgs had their opportunities but did not capitalize on them
That game is always a war
Congrats... just beat the Gators, that's all I ask
Hey...at least your team didn't just lose to ********** Kansas like mine did! Good lord..Tech's defense is still porous as ever. At least you guys have an excuse...SC's running back is a beast! He'd have beat our miserable defense by 21 or more. But...the one thing that makes a Tech loss better is a UGA loss!
But Spurrier was due one. It's kind of like our games with Clemson. Doesn't matter how crappy either team is, it's going to be a close one no matter what.
Hey...at least your team didn't just lose to ********** Kansas like mine did! Good lord..Tech's defense is still porous as ever. At least you guys have an excuse...SC's running back is a beast! He'd have beat our miserable defense by 21 or more. But...the one thing that makes a Tech loss better is a UGA loss!
What's wrong with KU? Rock Chalk Jayhawk
Nothing really. It's just that it's frustrating as hell to watch our defense over the past few years. Ever since Jon Tenuta left as def. coordinator, we've not been able to stop anyone. Sure, we can score a lot of points with Johnson's offense (I think we averaged around 35 points per game last year), but when you are scoring that many, and STILL typically have to score last to win, it sucks. At least with a defense you can keep other teams in check even when your offense is off. But with us, if our offense doesn't hit 30+ points, we still give up that many and lose. Hell....South Carolina STATE ran the ball at will on us last week, but thankfully couldn't capitalize.
That makes two of us. That game and the LSU game. Well and the Dawg game.... those are the only ones I ask we beat! Everything else is just sugar on top! Of course another BCS championship would be nice too!