2010-2011 College Football Thread

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Enjoying that koolaide? Look at tcus schedule and auburn shouldnt be allowed to compete

Oh I'm sorry but I'd rather see a 2 loss Big 12/SEC/ACC team before a one loss big 10 team in title talks as alternatives to TCU and Auburn. The big 10 has a trouble of showing up for big games with quality OOC teams in bowl games in recent years. Makes for horrible football

YOUR opinion ONLY

 

[dukebound85]

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Hahahaha you will EAT those words

Edit: this is in response to someone who actually thinks tcu will stand a chance in rb. GOOD LUCK

When will people start taking non-aqs seriously! Utah is 2-0 in BCS games, BSU is 2-0, TCU is 0-1 (loss being to BSU) and Hawaii is 0-1.

I believe the wins have been over Pitt, Alabama, Oklahoma, and TCU
Losses to UGA and BSU

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YOUR opinion ONLY

As are your posts Besides, all sports talk is opinion lol

 

[einmusiker]

When will people start taking non-aqs seriously! Utah is 2-0 in BCS games, BSU is 2-0, TCU is 0-1 (loss being to BSU) and Hawaii is 0-1.

I believe the wins have been over Pitt, Alabama, Oklahoma, and TCU
Losses to UGA and BSU


As are your posts Besides, all sports talk is opinion lol

well you HAVE obviously shown a bias against big ten teams, shows where your agenda leads

anyway, utah? bsu? tcu? hawaii? c'mon, lets get real. teams that play such weak opponents are obviously going to have good records year in and out, it's because they dont have to deal with the pressure and injuries that playing the high caliber conferences like sec and big 10 teams do. the nevada-bsu game just proves the point. these weak schedule teams just dont have the same caliber players to deal with high pressure situations. you can cry all you want about the kicker missing 2 fg's under 30 yards but that is a HUGE part of the game. wisconsin is showing the college football world they deserve a shot at a national title bid.

 

[nobunaga209]

anyway, utah? bsu? tcu? hawaii? c'mon, lets get real. teams that play such weak opponents are obviously going to have good records year in and out, it's because they dont have to deal with the pressure and injuries that playing the high caliber conferences like sec and big 10 teams do.

Ok let's get real...this post made me LOL, high caliber is not something people associate with Big Ten football, academia perhaps but definitely not football. The SEC is a given and I will always concede to the fact that it's [arguably] the most competitive conference in the nation. Look at the last few years worth of BCS Championship games. Several teams from the SEC are represented and an SEC conference champion is almost ALWAYS considered as a front runner for the title every year. OSU is the only school from the Big Ten that's even reached the title game and it's generally based on default status and "old school" voters' good graces. Overrated State got embarrassed the last two attempts to win a BCS Championship and barely put Miami out to pasture in '03.

Back to your point of dissing non-AQ's though...you do realize that some of the teams that you consider as 'high caliber' and 'quality' opponents are flat out scared to play non-AQ schools, right? The likes of Boise, TCU, Utah, etc. don't get to play in big time games because over the last few years and with the types of recruits they are getting now teams' know that they are going to get a heck of a game rather than the cupcakes that they are used to dealing with in non-conference play. You comment about them not worrying about injury and pressure is laughable...last I checked every team on your list plays Division-I football. Just because TCU plays a school in their conference like New Mexico doesn't mean they don't face the pressure of needing to be undefeated [to have a shot at a BCS game] or injuries. Nearly every team in Division-I plays a cupcake at some point during their season. With the parity prevalent today the old argument of non-AQ's being soft, or rather playing soft competition no longer applies.

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I'm taking over the evilGEEK watch as the 'other' non-AQ representative in this thread
Wherever you are bro be safe!!

 

[IgnatiusTheKing]

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Big 12????? Hahahahaha is that cobference still relevent?????

With five teams ranked in the BCS (four who will be back in the Little 10 next year) and eight bowl eligible teams (all 7-5 or better), the Big 12 is still a little relevant. Don't expect for the league to be around after 2012, though.

I'm taking over the evilGEEK watch as the other non-ACQ representative in this thread

You're not alone. Even though I'm an Aggie through and through, I will have a graduate degree from TCU in about three weeks, so I pull for my Frogs, too.

 

[MacDawg]

Wow, I leave to go to a game and all hell breaks loose here!

As you can see by the stadium clock (click for larger pic), we were there an hour and a half early
Had nice seats, Section 127 Row 33. Had an excellent view of the fumble the Dawgs took in for the score. Unfortunately, our defense ran harder for the goal line than our running backs did all night.

Yeah, it was a one point game. I was totally pissed when we scored and gave Tech the ball back. People around me were cheering and packing up and I was screaming "nooooooooo" and they thought I was crazy. I kept saying to my GF (who is a Tech fan) that it wasn't over, and she would just smile. That's what she did all night dammit. Every time she would smile I would say "shaddup!"

We stopped Tech twice all night. Once after the botched opening kickoff (sheesh). And then at the end of the game. Other than that, they had their way with our defense like a paid up hooker for the night. Even when we made them punt, we fumbled that back to them.

I can't believe we could play so sloppy and still win. But, after all, it was... Tech! Blech!

Congrats to the winners this weekend
And condolences to the losers, there's always next year
And regardless, we beat Tech... again

Bowl eligible Baby!!!

 

[einmusiker]

Ok let's get real...this post made me LOL, high caliber is not something people associate with Big Ten football, academia perhaps but definitely not football. The SEC is a given and I will always concede to the fact that it's [arguably] the most competitive conference in the nation. Look at the last few years worth of BCS Championship games. Several teams from the SEC are represented and an SEC conference champion is almost ALWAYS considered as a front runner for the title every year. OSU is the only school from the Big Ten that's even reached the title game and it's generally based on default status and "old school" voters' good graces. Overrated State got embarrassed the last two attempts to win a BCS Championship and barely put Miami out to pasture in '03.

Back to your point of dissing non-AQ's though...you do realize that some of the teams that you consider as 'high caliber' and 'quality' opponents are flat out scared to play non-AQ schools, right? The likes of Boise, TCU, Utah, etc. don't get to play in big time games because over the last few years and with the types of recruits they are getting now teams' know that they are going to get a heck of a game rather than the cupcakes that they are used to dealing with in non-conference play. You comment about them not worrying about injury and pressure is laughable...last I checked every team on your list plays Division-I football. Just because TCU plays a school in their conference like New Mexico doesn't mean they don't face the pressure of needing to be undefeated [to have a shot at a BCS game] or injuries. Nearly every team in Division-I plays a cupcake at some point during their season. With the parity prevalent today the old argument of non-AQ's being soft, or rather playing soft competition no longer applies.

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I'm taking over the evilGEEK watch as the 'other' non-AQ representative in this thread
Wherever you are bro be safe!!

yawwwwwwwwwn. yeah yea that's always their crying argument but when they cant even kick a 20 some yard fg, twice, to beat, wait for it, nevada, I'm not falling over for their argument

 

[dmr727]

You're not alone. Even though I'm an Aggie through and through, I will have a graduate degree from TCU in about three weeks, so I pull for my Frogs, too.

Congrats! That's awesome.

 

[MacDawg]

I think the perception is, while the SEC or others may play a cupcake along the way, they basically play a fairly strong and competitive schedule

The others are seen as playing one arguably good team along the way, and the rest are basically cupcakes

Big difference

I think Mississippi State, Arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia and maybe even a few others in the SEC would go undefeated on Boise or TCU's schedule. That goes for Oregon, Stanford, Wisconsin, and a host of other teams.

It cuts both ways
Boise and TCU and Utah will claim they are penalized for not playing the big boys
But Stanford, Wisconsin, et. al. won't get their shot this year because they didn't get to play Boise or TCU's schedule

 

[chris975d]

Great seats Dawg! Yes, y'all won the game, and deserve bragging rights. Very sloppy game on both sides. I'm totally shocked that we (Tech) even had a chance, as I've been saying all along that we'd get drilled. And I'm glad to see that you're a smart UGA fan (not too many of them! ...just playing) and understand how much of a brain fart that was for UGA to actually score at the end when we let them (we had no time outs...just kneel and take a 1 point win and don't let our offense take the field). All in all, it was a great game that kept you watching until the end, and that's fun (us Techies are used to losing, so it's not as big of a hit to our pride as it is to UGA). Not a stitch of defense anywhere in that game from either team though! Congrats to your Dogs on a good win that got them in a bowl.

Wow, I leave to go to a game and all hell breaks loose here!

As you can see by the stadium clock (click for larger pic), we were there an hour and a half early
Had nice seats, Section 127 Row 33. Had an excellent view of the fumble the Dawgs took in for the score. Unfortunately, our defense ran harder for the goal line than our running backs did all night.

Yeah, it was a one point game. I was totally pissed when we scored and gave Tech the ball back. People around me were cheering and packing up and I was screaming "nooooooooo" and they thought I was crazy. I kept saying to my GF (who is a Tech fan) that it wasn't over, and she would just smile. That's what she did all night dammit. Every time she would smile I would say "shaddup!"

We stopped Tech twice all night. Once after the botched opening kickoff (sheesh). And then at the end of the game. Other than that, they had their way with our defense like a paid up hooker for the night. Even when we made them punt, we fumbled that back to them.

I can't believe we could play so sloppy and still win. But, after all, it was... Tech! Blech!

Congrats to the winners this weekend
And condolences to the losers, there's always next year
And regardless, we beat Tech... again

Bowl eligible Baby!!!

 

[MacDawg]

I'm not sure we could have completely run the clock out with kneel downs, and we would have given it back to them with a few seconds. So I think the idea was to actually run a play to eat up more clock than just a kneel down, and they were shocked when Tech laid down and let them walk in. Ealy should have taken a knee at the one, but it hard for a college kid to do that. The coaches should have had them prepared for that scenario. I think the boys were surprised and didn't know what to do. And that goes back to coaching.

But I am not one calling for Richt's head. Not just yet.
If this continues, he won't last much longer regardless
But I want to see things develop next year and maybe one more before I pull the plug

 

[chris975d]

Well, yeah, that's really what I meant. Just kill the clock without attempting an actual play...snap it and run sideways or something, or kneel after a few yards like you said. I agree that it goes back to coaching...UGA should have assumed Tech would want them to score quickly (all the UGA fans with me speculated it, and only 2 of them have even played football...that's football 101 honestly) and had their players prepped for it.

To tell you how bad these Athens area UGA fans are on Richt (I'm at work at the golf course today), I've heard from a few UGA loyals already, one of which is a fairly significant athletic association booster that has a block of 20 tickets on the 45 yard line (he owns a nearby car dealership). They are already talking that they hope Miami makes a huge effort to get Richt, as I'm sure you're aware, he played the college ball there. Even the day after a win over the in state rival, fans are STILL on the coach. I know it's a disappointing year, but come on. As you've said before, "who's out there better to replace him with?" Although I've heard many UGA supporters say that want to go after Kirby Smart for a coach...

I'm not sure we could have completely run the clock out with kneel downs, and we would have given it back to them with a few seconds. So I think the idea was to actually run a play to eat up more clock than just a kneel down, and they were shocked when Tech laid down and let them walk in. Ealy should have taken a knee at the one, but it hard for a college kid to do that. The coaches should have had them prepared for that scenario. I think the boys were surprised and didn't know what to do. And that goes back to coaching.

But I am not one calling for Richt's head. Not just yet.
If this continues, he won't last much longer regardless
But I want to see things develop next year and maybe one more before I pull the plug

 

[MacDawg]

FSU might have had a chance a few years back, but they went with Jimbo
I don't think Miami is a place Richt wants to be actually

And while I like him a lot, I don't think Kirby is quite as "Smart" without Saban
And Muschamp is "coach in waiting" at Texas, although that may not hold

Bringing in a new coach (Michigan, Notre Dame, etc.) is not always a bright idea
I don't have a say, and I will support the Dawgs, but they would need a really good hire to replace Richt, and I don't see one

 

[dmr727]

Bringing in a new coach (Michigan, Notre Dame, etc.) is not always a bright idea
I don't have a say, and I will support the Dawgs, but they would need a really good hire to replace Richt, and I don't see one

I'm right there with you. It sucks that we won only five games, but going out on the coaching carousel doesn't strike me as a good solution.

 

[einmusiker]

Ok let's get real...this post made me LOL, high caliber is not something people associate with Big Ten football, academia perhaps but definitely not football. The SEC is a given and I will always concede to the fact that it's [arguably] the most competitive conference in the nation. Look at the last few years worth of BCS Championship games. Several teams from the SEC are represented and an SEC conference champion is almost ALWAYS considered as a front runner for the title every year. OSU is the only school from the Big Ten that's even reached the title game and it's generally based o

5 LSU
6 Stanford
7 Wisconsin (BIG 10)
8 Ohio State (BIG 10)
9 Oklahoma State
10 Michigan State (BIG 10)

what a TERRible football conference

so we're smart, we don't cheat and we can play

 

[chris975d]

I agree that there's not really a good choice out there to replace Richt. He seems like a great guy, I just think he lacks in disciplinary areas and being a coach that the players like, yet also fear a bit. I think that last part is needed just a bit to get the most out of your players. It just seems like he doesn't want to be too hard on them, even in getting in their face and motivating them. I've heard that from ex-players of his as well. One said he was "like the most fun big brother or fun uncle you could have". Seems like there's a fine line between being friends with your players and yet still being a head coach. Seems like a great guy character wise, just not sure if he has the "mean streak" needed to take all that talent he consistently gets to the next level. But this is all also coming from a Tech guy, so take my opinions with a grain of salt! (and I'm kinda tired of him beating us!)

FSU might have had a chance a few years back, but they went with Jimbo
I don't think Miami is a place Richt wants to be actually

And while I like him a lot, I don't think Kirby is quite as "Smart" without Saban
And Muschamp is "coach in waiting" at Texas, although that may not hold

Bringing in a new coach (Michigan, Notre Dame, etc.) is not always a bright idea
I don't have a say, and I will support the Dawgs, but they would need a really good hire to replace Richt, and I don't see one

 

[MacDawg]

I would like to see a little more fire from Richt
Maybe not Saban fire, but more intensity
He has shown it at times, but it isn't who he is

Very few coaches I would take over him though
The Mad Hatter? Puh-leaze
Urban Meyer? Not a chance

Tell me who you are hiring to replace Richt, and i will tell you if I'm "in"

Besides, not every coach can translate success at one program to another
Saban is the exception, not the rule
And his team lost 3 this year... anybody think Bama is ready to fire him?

 

[chris975d]

That's the best way to explain it! He needs more "fire". If he could figure out how to do that, I think UGA would be great. Or...at least bring in OC and DC's that have that "fire", and let them be his "attack dogs". Then he could play the lovable "father figure" like it seemed his mentor, Bowden, pulled off for so long. I also think that's an option. He doesn't necessarily HAVE to have the fire, but the OC and DC need to have it. Again, I use the Bowden set-up as an example...Andrews (Bowden's DC seemed like such a mean SOB) seemed to be his "enforcer" and the one the players didn't want in their face.

I would like to see a little more fire from Richt
Maybe not Saban fire, but more intensity
He has shown it at times, but it isn't who he is

Very few coaches I would take over him though
The Mad Hatter? Puh-leaze
Urban Meyer? Not a chance

Tell me who you are hiring to replace Richt, and i will tell you if I'm "in"

Besides, not every coach can translate success at one program to another
Saban is the exception, not the rule
And his team lost 3 this year... anybody think Bama is ready to fire him?

 

[steve2112]

I would like to see a little more fire from Richt
Maybe not Saban fire, but more intensity
He has shown it at times, but it isn't who he is

Very few coaches I would take over him though
The Mad Hatter? Puh-leaze
Urban Meyer? Not a chance

Tell me who you are hiring to replace Richt, and i will tell you if I'm "in"

Besides, not every coach can translate success at one program to another
Saban is the exception, not the rule
And his team lost 3 this year... anybody think Bama is ready to fire him?

You don't know very many Bama fans, do you? Not winning the MNC=OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

Seriously, if if loses to Auburn a couple of more times, they will be calling for his head. Ask Bill Curry about that.

Anyway, I think the only way Richt leaves Georgia is if they fire him. I could see that, but I think it would be more because he can't beat Florida than just this season. If they do, all I have to say is keep your filthy checkbooks away from Dan Mullen.

 

[MacDawg]

That's the best way to explain it! He needs more "fire". If he could figure out how to do that, I think UGA would be great. Or...at least bring in OC and DC's that have that "fire", and let them be his "attack dogs". Then he could play the lovable "father figure" like it seemed his mentor, Bowden, pulled off for so long. I also think that's an option. He doesn't necessarily HAVE to have the fire, but the OC and DC need to have it. Again, I use the Bowden set-up as an example...Andrews (Bowden's DC seemed like such a mean SOB) seemed to be his "enforcer" and the one the players didn't want in their face.

I agree
I was hopeful with the Grantham hire at DC, but his defense has been lackluster
But it was the first year, hopefully that will improve

Time for Bobo to go as OC? Maybe
But I think Murray is a star in the making, and changing OC is tricky
I wish Green would come back, but that isn't likely

You don't know very many Bama fans, do you? Not winning the MNC=OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

Seriously, if if loses to Auburn a couple of more times, they will be calling for his head. Ask Bill Curry about that.

Anyway, I think the only way Richt leaves Georgia is if they fire him. I could see that, but I think it would be more because he can't beat Florida than just this season. If they do, all I have to say is keep your filthy checkbooks away from Dan Mullen.

True, but I think he gets a few more years, and I don't see him losing to Auburn often
Hell, he shouldn't have lost this time

Richt has beaten Tech and that bodes well
He has done well with Auburn and Tennessee, unlike Donnan
Florida is the key, and they seem ripe for the picking nowdays
All things are cyclical, and with Tebow gone, it is time for the Gators to rot in hell

Mullen needs a couple more good seasons and he will be gobbled up by somebody with a better chance to win consistently

 

[chris975d]

I never understand Bobo's attack. Honestly...why do y'all stop throwing to Green every game? At some point every game it seems that Bobo just grabs a totally different playbook and totally changes the entire scheme. If I was Bobo, I would have thrown to Green every damn down until Tech stopped it, which we obviously couldn't do. But heck, did UGA even throw 2 balls to him last half of the 3rd quarter and 4th quarter? I NEVER understand Bobo. Stick with what's working UNTIL it doesn't. I know Paul Johnson will run the same plays until it's stopped. Look at what he did between the tackles against UGA. Do it until it's stopped, then run it the opposite direction! That's the way I was always coached.

I agree
I was hopeful with the Grantham hire at DC, but his defense has been lackluster
But it was the first year, hopefully that will improve

Time for Bobo to go as OC? Maybe
But I think Murray is a star in the making, and changing OC is tricky
I wish Green would come back, but that isn't likely



True, but I think he gets a few more years, and I don't see him losing to Auburn often
Hell, he shouldn't have lost this time

Richt has beaten Tech and that bodes well
He has done well with Auburn and Tennessee, unlike Donnan
Florida is the key, and they seem ripe for the picking nowdays
All things are cyclical, and with Tebow gone, it is time for the Gators to rot in hell

Mullen needs a couple more good seasons and he will be gobbled up by somebody with a better chance to win consistently

 

[MacDawg]

I never understand Bobo's attack. Honestly...why do y'all stop throwing to Green every game? At some point every game it seems that Bobo just grabs a totally different playbook and totally changes the entire scheme. If I was Bobo, I would have thrown to Green every damn down until Tech stopped it, which we obviously couldn't do. But heck, did UGA even throw 2 balls to him last half of the 3rd quarter and 4th quarter? I NEVER understand Bobo. Stick with what's working UNTIL it doesn't. I know Paul Johnson will run the same plays until it's stopped. Look at what he did between the tackles against UGA. Do it until it's stopped, then run it the opposite direction! That's the way I was always coached.

Yep, I agree. He will throw and throw with great success, and then stall a drive with 2 runs for no gain. Or, on occasion, the run is moving us down the field and he will throw incomplete to the endzone from the 3 yd line. Doesn't seem to confuse the defenses, but it confuses the hell out of me. I know it all comes down to execution, but with a weapon like AJ, you gotta use him. No reason to save him, he's gone after this year.

 

[chris975d]

I like you! You sure you're not a closet GT fan? You seem to have way too high of an IQ to be a UGA fan! (just kidding...that's the "uppity" Techie in me coming out). Maybe redwarrior needs to work harder to convert you!

Yep, I agree. He will throw and throw with great success, and then stall a drive with 2 runs for no gain. Or, on occasion, the run is moving us down the field and he will throw incomplete to the endzone from the 3 yd line. Doesn't seem to confuse the defenses, but it confuses the hell out of me. I know it all comes down to execution, but with a weapon like AJ, you gotta use him. No reason to save him, he's gone after this year.

 

[MacDawg]

I like you! You sure you're not a closet GT fan? You seem to have way too high of an IQ to be a UGA fan! (just kidding...that's the "uppity" Techie in me coming out). Maybe redwarrior needs to work harder to convert you!

She got tired of hearing me sing "... and to hell with Georgia Tech" all night long with the fight song. But she put up with it because of the popcorn and pizza. She was a good sport the whole game, even when I wasn't

 

[chris975d]

She got tired of hearing me sing "... and to hell with Georgia Tech" all night long with the fight song. But she put up with it because of the popcorn and pizza. She was a good sport the whole game, even when I wasn't

You mean the part of your fight song that you copied from our original (....to hell with Georgia, like his daddy used to do....)? And "being a good sport"??? In that game? Hell...all "good sportsmanship" goes out the window during that game! I'd slap my mama she sang the UGA fight song!