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Aulburn is going down that much is known the question is when.

I agree in that I feel Auburn and Newton are guilty, but I also think action shouldn't be taken until guilt is proven. Newton was clearly the best athlete this season, and if he's found guilty, then take the Heisman away. If Auburn is found guilty - vacate the wins.

But until then, I don't find it fair to punish Newton or Auburn with only the presumption of guilt.
 
I agree in that I feel Auburn and Newton are guilty, but I also think action shouldn't be taken until guilt is proven. Newton was clearly the best athlete this season, and if he's found guilty, then take the Heisman away. If Auburn is found guilty - vacate the wins.

But until then, I don't find it fair to punish Newton or Auburn with only the presumption of guilt.

Oh I was talking about much more when I said Auburn is going down. Newton is just the tip of the Iceberg. With one of their big boosters being looked at by the FBI and he is going down it is going to drag Auburn down with them.
 
Muschamp wants to get Kirby Smart as DC from 'Bama

Not sure my Dawg heart can take all of these Dawgs with the Gators :(

UPDATE: According to the Tuscaloosa News, Muschamp is targeting another former Bulldog, Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart, to come with him to Gainesville. As you recall, Smart turned down a chance to return to Athens last season as Willie Martinez’ replacement and received a significant raise to stay at Alabama. The Tuscaloosa News reported: “It is not known if Muschamp already has offered the position to Smart, who could not be reached for comment. Smart, who last year won the Broyles Award as the nation’s top assistant coach, received a raise to $750,000 a year after Georgia made a big-money offer to him.”
 
Dammit! You flipped my insult! :D But it makes ya wonder why none of them ever come back to Athens, huh? Oh...I forgot about the heralded OC you have there now...good ole Bozo..er..Bobo. But I hope y'all keep him there, because as long as UGA has him, at least we know they will always STOP doing what works for them offensively in the 2nd half, and any time inside the 20 yd line. It's like he has an alarm set or something...."halfway through the 3rd quarter? Let's throw out what's been working all game!" Or.."we've run the ball down their throat and we are inside the 20? Let's throw 3 incomplete passes and take a field goal!" :D:D

Gators can't find anybody worth a sneeze from Florida to hire now that Spurrier is gone ;)

They know where to go to get quality material... Dawg alums!
 
Dammit! You flipped my insult! :D But it makes ya wonder why none of them ever come back to Athens, huh? Oh...I forgot about the heralded OC you have there now...good ole Bozo..er..Bobo. But I hope y'all keep him there, because as long as UGA has him, at least we know they will always STOP doing what works for them offensively in the 2nd half, and any time inside the 20 yd line. It's like he has an alarm set or something...."halfway through the 3rd quarter? Let's throw out what's been working all game!" Or.."we've run the ball down their throat and we are inside the 20? Let's throw 3 incomplete passes and take a field goal!" :D:D

Hmmmmm, Bobo's offense averaged 39 points a game
About a touchdown more than Paul Johnson's offense
 
Lol. Look at the players UGA has though. You really think that Johnson couldn't score more points per game with that kind of talent? I could be wrong, but I'd say that'd be one heck of a potent team. But then again, I don't know if we can recruit those caliber of players with a triple-option offense. So, I guess it works both ways. But I do question Bobo's ability...afterall, this is the same guy (along with Richt) that told Cam Newton he'd have to play tight end if he came to UGA.

Hmmmmm, Bobo's offense averaged 39 points a game
About a touchdown more than Paul Johnson's offense

In all seriousness though, what do you think the chances are that Smart will come with him to UF? Would that be a good career move for him to leave Saban and be "out on his own", so to speak? I've seen many people saying that Alabama's defense is more "Saban" and less "Smart" than it appears to be (I don't follow them closely enough to know).
 
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Muschamp grew up a Gator, so in a way he was a traitor for going to UGA in the first place.
 
I agree in that I feel Auburn and Newton are guilty, but I also think action shouldn't be taken until guilt is proven. Newton was clearly the best athlete this season, and if he's found guilty, then take the Heisman away. If Auburn is found guilty - vacate the wins.

But until then, I don't find it fair to punish Newton or Auburn with only the presumption of guilt.

A player is ineligible if he is represented by an agent, and an agent is defined by the NCAA as anyone who tries to get compensation for the player in exchange for playing at a certain institution. By rule, Cam Newton is guilty because his father (his "agent") has been found to have solicited at least one school for money in exchange for Cam's commitment to play at the school.

12.3.1 General Rule. An individual shall be ineligible for participation in an intercollegiate sport if he or she ever has agreed (orally or in writing) to be represented by an agent for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics ability...

12.3.3 Athletics Scholarship Agent. Any individual, agency or organization that represents a prospective student-athlete for compensation in placing the prospective student-athlete in a collegiate institution as a recipient of institutional financial aid shall be considered an agent or organization marketing the individual’s athletics ability or reputation.

The fact that the NCAA disregarded its own rules is what makes this thing so ridiculous. So incredibly ridiculous.

We all know what's going to happen here because we just saw it happen to USC. **** the NCAA. Seriously. The big schools should just get together and secede altogether, make their own rules (and actually make them binding evenly to every player and every institution), and form their own sports association. If they want to pay the players and can afford to do so, fine by me. But the hypocrisy is staggering, infuriating, etc.
 
^^^ I didn't realize that. You make an excellent point.

The whole nit picking, hair splitting point is the NCAA has gotten around this by saying Cecil acted on his own and not as a representative of Cam because Cam knew nothing about it

Sniff, sniff... something smells

Cam has a stolen computer in his possession
Cam cheats multiple times at Florida
His dad pimps him like a cheap expensive whore

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
 
We all know what's going to happen here because we just saw it happen to USC. **** the NCAA. Seriously. The big schools should just get together and secede altogether, make their own rules (and actually make them binding evenly to every player and every institution), and form their own sports association. If they want to pay the players and can afford to do so, fine by me. But the hypocrisy is staggering, infuriating, etc.

I agree. I would love to see the NCAA go away. Of course, the SEC isn't any better. Mike Slive said he agreed with the NCAA decision and he didn't violate any conference by-laws. I'll try to dig up the SEC bylaw that, as has been pointed out many times, he violated. Slive is slime.

Speaking of Auburn, the Washington Post is reporting that Gus Malzahn has accepted the Vanderbilt head coach job.

We also lost a coach as Louisiana-Lafayette hired our wide receivers coach to be their head coach. I'm glad he was the only one.

Edit: Yet more coaching news. Miami has hired Temple's Al Golden as its new coach. That one came out of left field.
 
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Ah, now I see

The U got the two confused, they thought they were pursing Gruden
But instead, they got Golden

Somebody said, "I think Golden would take the job"
They heard, "Gruden" and said "do it"

Miami Hurricanes name Al Golden coach

The University of Miami hired Al Golden to be its next football coach Sunday evening.

The school will introduce Golden in a news conference Monday.

The 41-year-old Golden spent five seasons at Temple, transforming the Owls from a program that was 1-11 in his first season to winning 17 games in his past two seasons at the Philadelphia school.

"From the beginning of this process, one candidate stood above the rest as the right fit for the University of Miami," AD Kirby Hocutt said in a statement. "We are proud to welcome Al Golden to The U. His desire, leadership, communications skills and preparedness stood above the rest and he is the right man to meet the championship expectations of this program."

A source told The Associated Press that the deal is believed to be worth up to $2 million annually.

5 years at Temple

1-11 (FBS)

MAC record
4-8 (4th in East)
5-7 (3rd in East)
9-4 (T-1st in East)
8-4 (3rd in East)

Gators get Muschamp, one of the hottest names in coaching
Hurricanes get Golden, huh??

Fear the U :p
 
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5 years at Temple

1-11 (FBS)
4-8 (4th in Big East)
5-7 (3rd in Big East)
9-4 (T-1st in Big East)
8-4 (3rd in Big East)

Gators get Muschamp, one of the hottest names in coaching
Hurricanes get Golden, huh??

Fear the U :p

Golden definitely isn't a flashy hire, but he could end up being a solid pick. That being said, I saw somewhere yesterday that his Temple teams never beat a MAC opponent with a winning record. Sounds like the Baylor method of earning respect. :eek:

In other small team news, it looks like Northern Illinois is going to hire Wisconsin DC Dave Doeren as their new head coach today. Great news for Doeren, a really good guy who played college football at (then D-III) Drake with my brother back in the 90s.
 
Golden definitely isn't a flashy hire, but he could end up being a solid pick. That being said, I saw somewhere yesterday that his Temple teams never beat a MAC opponent with a winning record. Sounds like the Baylor method of earning respect. :eek:

My bad... I put the Big East... when it was really the East of the MAC

I was giving too much credit :p
And that's tough to do with the Big East :D
 
Ah, now I see

The U got the two confused, they thought they were pursing Gruden
But instead, they got Golden

Somebody said, "I think Golden would take the job"
They heard, "Gruden" and said "do it"

Miami Hurricanes name Al Golden coach



5 years at Temple

1-11 (FBS)

MAC record
4-8 (4th in East)
5-7 (3rd in East)
9-4 (T-1st in East)
8-4 (3rd in East)

Gators get Muschamp, one of the hottest names in coaching
Hurricanes get Golden, huh??

Fear the U :p

Not to nitpick, but they are actually in the MAC. Temple got kicked out of the Big East a few years ago because they were so bad. That should say something about how bad they were before Golden got there. I guess they figure if you can win at Temple, of all places, you can win anywhere. I guess we'll see.

Golden definitely isn't a flashy hire, but he could end up being a solid pick. That being said, I saw somewhere yesterday that his Temple teams never beat a MAC opponent with a winning record. Sounds like the Baylor method of earning respect. :eek:

Hey, anybody who has played EA's NCAA Football games knows this is the way to do it. I would always take over a bad team, schedule patsies, and get a winning record. This would allow you to get more recruiting points and better recruits. See also, SEC OOC scheduling methods. :)
 
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The difference here is that Temple didn't necessarily schedule patsies, they just failed to beat anyone who wasn't one. Hard to believe the guy was there for five years and never had a conference win over a .500+ team.
 
Everyone (media types) keeps saying that Florida is one of the top one or two jobs in the country, but I just don't see it. Sure, they are in a recruiting hotbed and have tons of money and fan support, but they're also in the SEC. The road to a national title coming out of the SEC East is much more difficult than it is in the ACC, Big East, Pac-12, Big 10, or Little 10.

I know he has ties to FU, but the idea that Bob Stoops would leave OU seems ludicrious, too. Starting next year, he will get the "North" cupcakes on the schedule every year. And though A&M, Okie St and Missouri (and Baylor to a lesser, Baylorish degree) appear to be on the rise, the only "blue blood" he has to compete with is UT-Austin, who are coming off their worst season in a decade. And with no conference championship game to serve as a late-season trip-up, why would anyone leave? It could happen, I guess, but I just don't see it.

I think the Gators are going to throw around a bunch of "hot" names but end up with someone a little further off the radar. I'm not saying he won't be good (whomever he is), but I just don't see them stealing a coach from a major, BCS program.

Though with everything that has befallen Boise (come back, evilGEEK) in recent weeks, I bet Peterson will finally be willing to make the jump.


I have to disagree with you. You know, a lot of people in life enjoy challenges and not taking the easiest paths to success. Also, while the SEC is tough, if you win the conference, you are a lock to the NC game with a good record, and a BCS game if you win your division and have a good record.
 
Also, while the SEC is tough, if you win the conference, you are a lock to the NC game with a good record

A) Define "good record"
B) Tell that to Auburn's 2004 team

and a BCS game if you win your division and have a good record.

Again, define a "good record" and tell it to South Carolina this year. The truth is that an undefeated record (or a one-loss record in most seasons) from the SEC, Pac-10, Big 10, Big 12, or even ACC will get you into the BCS Championship Game more often than not. The SEC is the best conference, but not by such a wide berth that its winners are automatically chosen over others. Also, the fact that OU (and Texas last year) hasn't win the big one lately doesn't take away from the fact that they get there all the time despite not being in the SEC.

By all indications, Florida tried to steal a bigger names away from someone (Stoops, Petrino, Harbaugh, Mullen, etc.) but ended up hiring a coordinator. A good one, for sure, but not the "big splash" guy all the idiots in the media assumed they would get. They didn't steal a big-time head coach away from a power program, but instead got a guy who was sick of waiting on the better job he had already taken "in waiting."

Hey, when your program has a 43% winning percentage, you take what you can get. Believe me, I can sympathize with them. :D

I'm sure the Sun Belt would love to have you.
 
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