2012 iMac - next big date?

[AlphaMF]

The irony is that people who have been waiting on the 2012 iMac since february on the grounds that they won't pay for 1 year old sandy bridge tech, will now be in the position to buy 1 year old ivy bridge tech.

Very few people care about the SB -> IB upgrade. Mostly people are concerned about USB3, SSD and the GFX for me. Those are outdated and whenever they are launched will be more appropriate than they are now. The SSDs will be priced the same as laptops, the GFX will be nVidia and the USB3 will be... USB3.

Also I'm sure some people are eager to lose the super reflective screen the iMacs have right now.

But ye, I think few of those who waited since february actually still believe it was the best choice. But decisions cant be based on hindsight (thats how poker players lose). You have to take the best information you have, and decide from there. Statistically you will end up for the better. But ye, sometimes, life kicks your teeth in and says: "No, bitch, you're not making lemonade"

 

[segovius]

Also I'm sure some people are eager to lose the super reflective screen the iMacs have right now.

Amen....that's what I'm waiting for...

 

[HurryKayne]

Originally Posted by Bargle
The irony is that people who have been waiting on the 2012 iMac since february on the grounds that they won't pay for 1 year old sandy bridge tech, will now be in the position to buy 1 year old ivy bridge tech.


This is the truth and its due to Apple's decision and it makes sense,even of cinical,more they wait to buy stocks of hardware and more those will be cheaper
and margins will raise,this, till the Apple bubble won't burst.
Actually i'm considering to buy/find an old 2009 Imac with direct input enabled for an external machine ,then a good MacbookPro,maybe late 2011 and a Windows gaming machine with no compromizes (even hackintoshable {??^^} ).
Seriously Apple is losing a lot of passengers,this time its train will go beyond with just Ios users.
October its the last call,then i'll go without..new Apple Cooked pro..ducts,

 

[BriMercer]

Clearly, no one wants to buy a 2011 iMac and then have a new one come out in a matter of a few more weeks. (The trouble, of course, is when "a few more weeks" is perpetually extended.)

I think there has been enough information pointing to an October release to suggest that, at least at some point, Apple plans (or planned) to launch an iMac refresh in October 2012.

What's more, it seems a mere spec bump wouldn't take this long to produce, but that some kind of redesigned look is coming: slimmer form-factor, no optical drive, perhaps, a screen that doesn't have as much reflection, plus the upgraded internals (SSD, more memory, Ivy Bridge, USB3, etc.).

Here's my question: What if a spec bump happened, but it was strictly an upgraded processor and maybe USB3 and SSD as a standard feature, would you be disappointed? Would that have justified the wait? And if there was going to be an awesome new form-factor out this spring, would any of you consider waiting for it?

 

[philipma1957]

Dude, first of all learn to quote. To answer your question: yes, USB 3 is the main reason for me to need a 2012 iMac. And I don't care if "IB won't be much better than SB" or any of the GPU blabber because I'm coming from a 2006 iMac so even a 2010 iMac would be incredibly faster than what I have. The reason I'm holding off buying an iMac is that the 2011 iMac cost €1158 when it came out in May 2011 and guess what? It still costs €1158. It'd be a very stupid purchase at this stage for me. For others it may be just what they need.

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so you need this

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-GoFlex-Thunderbolt-Adapter-STAE122/dp/B007IJ7UKE



and this

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FreeA...48517202&sr=1-12&keywords=seagate+goflex+usb3


cost is about 200 usd or 155 euros.


this means if you buy a 2011 iMac for 155 euros less then the list price of 1158 euros you have exactly what you need.

In fact it is more versatile then usb3 and more flexible to simply have the adapters above.




my point is you don't need the 2012 iMac you need a cheaper 2011 imac. cheaper by 155 euros and you could buy one.

 

[HurryKayne]

Clearly, no one wants to buy a 2011 iMac and then have a new one come out in a matter of a few more weeks. (The trouble, of course, is when "a few more weeks" is perpetually extended.)

I think there has been enough information pointing to an October release to suggest that, at least at some point, Apple plans (or planned) to launch an iMac refresh in October 2012.

What's more, it seems a mere spec bump wouldn't take this long to produce, but that some kind of redesigned look is coming: slimmer form-factor, no optical drive, perhaps, a screen that doesn't have as much reflection, plus the upgraded internals (SSD, more memory, Ivy Bridge, USB3, etc.).

Here's my question: What if a spec bump happened, but it was strictly an upgraded processor and maybe USB3 and SSD as a standard feature, would you be disappointed? Would that have justified the wait? And if there was going to be an awesome new form-factor out this spring, would any of you consider waiting for it?

What if will be just a normal,silent,spec bump?
Which kind of meaning will I give to this?
I will be disappointed but after having bought i'll stop to follow Apple as in the past.
That ,if only ,a Imac2012 will ever happen,because i'm not so confident,
Cook's guide doesn't convince me at all till here.
Clearly he's not and won't ever be the Wizard of Oz we know was Jobs,
he's the good money manager Apple's board want,unable to hear us or make listen for him
over those lazy directors sitted on the mountain of money as Steve did.
What it will really surprise me?To see those online Mac news sites we know as 9to5 ,macrumors,tuaw,the verge,engadget..and so on..,WAKE and ask..Apple,is this still you?But we won't see this kind of reaction.

 

[plucky duck]

Did the iPods get a refresh in 2011? I don't remember, but if not the last refresh was in 2010. If so, that would indicate Apple doesn't necessarily update based on calendar year cycle for all their products.

I'd wish they would bring back the Apple bluetooth headset from ages ago, it was the slimmest minimalist design ever, even is today compared to what is available on the market today. Anyways...

 

[philipma1957]

Clearly, no one wants to buy a 2011 iMac and then have a new one come out in a matter of a few more weeks. (The trouble, of course, is when "a few more weeks" is perpetually extended.)

I think there has been enough information pointing to an October release to suggest that, at least at some point, Apple plans (or planned) to launch an iMac refresh in October 2012.

What's more, it seems a mere spec bump wouldn't take this long to produce, but that some kind of redesigned look is coming: slimmer form-factor, no optical drive, perhaps, a screen that doesn't have as much reflection, plus the upgraded internals (SSD, more memory, Ivy Bridge, USB3, etc.).

Here's my question: What if a spec bump happened, but it was strictly an upgraded processor and maybe USB3 and SSD as a standard feature, would you be disappointed? Would that have justified the wait? And if there was going to be an awesome new form-factor out this spring, would any of you consider waiting for it?

If all they do is drop in an i7 3770s add the ssd and usb3

(which is a waste since proper thunderbolt shopping is far better option) many in the know will be happy. Why they will buy the price lowered 2011 and get a killer external ssd. for instance today on sale is a 240gb intel series 330


at amazon


http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...sr=8-2&keywords=intel+240gb+ssd&condition=new


price is 140 for putting into a thunderbolt case from seagate price of 100 so 240 for a 240gb ssd that can move from place to place mac to mac. as a nice ml or l boot drive.

a month or so after the new 2012 comes out this will drop
a few hundred

http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD063LL/A



so it is 1869 make it 1699 add an external t-bolt ssd for 240 and for under 2000 it is a killer imac equal to the new 2012 for less money!


Tech is not the problem price is the problem.

 

[ctdonath]

What if a spec bump happened, but it was strictly an upgraded processor and maybe USB3 and SSD as a standard feature, would you be disappointed? Would that have justified the wait? And if there was going to be an awesome new form-factor out this spring, would any of you consider waiting for it?

A mere spec bump (processor + USB3; drive type matters little) will annoy me, but I took my chances and got my results. Take the lumps and move on. It's not THAT big a deal.

I'll be content with new processor, USB3, laminated screen (i.e.: much-reduced glare), better graphics, and no ODD. Still residual annoyance though.

Further wait would require solid assurance of retina resolution, horsepower to drive it, and touchscreen. Given the "when it's ready" cycle though, there won't be such assurance.

I'll be in line to pick up the 27" 2012 release day.

 

[Bargle]

There is no "SSD standard". If you look at the MBP-r's the SSD that comes "standard" raises the price over the other is...wait for it....500$ for 256gb.

The only thing you are going to get is more SSD options, the price will not go down.

 

[Razeus]

The time is coming for me to build a Windows rig guys. It's pretty obvious Apple no longer cares about the users that kept them in business before the iOS craze.

We no longer get consistent iMac, Mac Pro updates for hardware.

We are still on Aperture 3 with no worthwhile features add via updates, other than what relates to iOS.

iPhoto, all iOS updates and none of the features the mobile version has.

iCloud.com webiste is a joke and looks like an intern built it using cheap software from the late 90's. These means it's clear that they can't even put effort into making the desktop web version look nice.

There's no desktop version of Apple's new Maps. It's only mobile.

But Apple already told us: We are in the post-PC era. We all missed that blatant warning.

 

[iMcLovin]

The time is coming for me to build a Windows rig guys. It's pretty obvious Apple no longer cares about the users that kept them in business before the iOS craze.

We no longer get consistent iMac, Mac Pro updates for hardware.

We are still on Aperture 3 with no worthwhile features add via updates, other than what relates to iOS.

iPhoto, all iOS updates and none of the features the mobile version has.

iCloud.com webiste is a joke and looks like an intern built it using cheap software from the late 90's. These means it's clear that they can't even put effort into making the desktop web version look nice.

There's no desktop version of Apple's new Maps. It's only mobile.

But Apple already told us: We are in the post-PC era. We all missed that blatant warning.

good luck. Maybe we all will follow you pretty soon. It´s definitely money to earn on the switch, sadly Windows is far less good than OSX (its un-debatable )
sadly, it´s not something I want, but if Apple don´t do anything soon, I might give up waiting. I expect I´ll be more open to try other phones and stuff too then. I hope Apple won´t drive me to this .

 

[Razeus]

good luck. Maybe we all will follow you pretty soon. It´s definitely money to earn on the switch, sadly Windows is far less good than OSX (its un-debatable )
sadly, it´s not something I want, but if Apple don´t do anything soon, I might give up waiting. I expect I´ll be more open to try other phones and stuff too then. I hope Apple won´t drive me to this .

I'm doing my best to hold out and see if we get a release by Black Friday. If not, I guess Apple wrote 2012 iMac's off. The sad thing is I'd hate to switch, but I'm losing confidence in non-iOS hardware with Apple.

 

[Tulipone]

The irony is that people who have been waiting on the 2012 iMac since february on the grounds that they won't pay for 1 year old sandy bridge tech, will now be in the position to buy 1 year old ivy bridge tech.

I hadn't thought of that, but the point you make is possibly very valid.

 

[Razeus]

I hadn't thought of that, but the point you make is possibly very valid.

Valid, but people won't just rush out for the 2012's. They'll evaluate. So even if the 2012's do get released, I'm still looking at the hardware and how much Apple wants for it. A year old CPU in 2012? No thank you. It's got to be the latest hardware to justify the price.

 

[Tulipone]

Valid, but people won't just rush out for the 2012's. They'll evaluate.

Well I'm not so sure you are right. I was planning on rushing out, just making a decision on an SSD or HD option. Now I'm starting to wonder why I'm going to pay a premium price for a CPU that is a year old. My current '08 24" 3.06 runs Aperture like crap and I know that the current '11 model will run it just fine, but you'd like to think that a top spec/priced iMac would be at the of cutting edge of tech and not just following a year later.

I'll look properly when the next iteration arrives on the shelves, but perhaps with a far more jaundiced eye than I had an hour ago. I don't want to be replacing it any time soon. 4 years is fine.

 

[motrek]

A mere spec bump (processor + USB3; drive type matters little) will annoy me, but I took my chances and got my results. Take the lumps and move on. It's not THAT big a deal. ...

Drive type matters enormously. You've clearly never used an SSD--it makes your computer feel 10x faster. It's a much bigger improvement than any incremental bump to processor speed.

I think Apple didn't add SSDs to the 2011 iMac because iMacs are supposed to have lots of storage (for peoples' pictures, movies, etc.) and Mac/computer users in general are not used to managing two drives (one for OS and apps, another for large files).

If Apple releases iMacs with SSDs, I think they will have an OS update that uses the SSD as a cache drive for the hard drive... i.e., all the speed of an SSD but all the storage space of a big hard drive. This could be done as a minor OS update but it would be a big enough performance improvement that I expect Apple would want to make a big deal out of it in a presentation to the media etc.

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Well I'm not so sure you are right. I was planning on rushing out, just making a decision on an SSD or HD option. Now I'm starting to wonder why I'm going to pay a premium price for a CPU that is a year old. My current '08 24" 3.06 runs Aperture like crap and I know that the current '11 model will run it just fine, but you'd like to think that a top spec/priced iMac would be at the of cutting edge of tech and not just following a year later. ...

There was a time when processors were doubling clock speed every year and completely different processor architectures were coming out every couple of years. A processor that was 1-2 years old was a processor that was a fraction as fast as the current parts.

But those days are long gone. The latest Ivy Bridge processors are only a few percent faster than the Sandy Bridge processors in the 2011 iMacs, and Haswell promises more of a power reduction than any major increase in performance.

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There is no "SSD standard". If you look at the MBP-r's the SSD that comes "standard" raises the price over the other is...wait for it....500$ for 256gb.

The only thing you are going to get is more SSD options, the price will not go down.

Nah, the rMBP is expensive because of the screen. SSDs are cheap now. Look at all the cheap MacBook Airs now, they all have SSDs standard. No reason why the iMac can't too.

 

[Bargle]

Nah, the rMBP is expensive because of the screen. SSDs are cheap now. Look at all the cheap MacBook Airs now, they all have SSDs standard. No reason why the iMac can't too.

Um...it's not my opinion. It's a fact. 256gb of SSD adds 500$ to the price of any Mac book pro or Mac book retina.

And iMacs do have SSD. I just bought a 2011 iMac with 256gb SSD and it cost me the same as what it costs a MBP buyer. Except I get a 21.5" screen.

 

[motrek]

Um...it's not my opinion. It's a fact. 256gb of SSD adds 500$ to the price of any Mac book pro or Mac book retina.

And iMacs do have SSD. I just bought a 2011 iMac with 256gb SSD and it cost me the same as what it costs a MBP buyer. Except I get a 21.5" screen.

Sorry, I guess I misunderstood you. I thought you meant the price to Apple and not the price for an Apple upgrade.

Anyway, if Apple wants to bundle SSDs standard with iMacs they can definitely do that while keeping iMac prices the same.

IMO a nice upgrade would be to add an SSD, switch the hard drive to 2.5" (less heat, power, noise), remove the optical drive, and make the whole thing lighter and thinner. But really I'll buy any updated iMac.

 

[jollino]

so you need this
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-GoFlex-Thunderbolt-Adapter-STAE122/dp/B007IJ7UKE
and this
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FreeA...48517202&sr=1-12&keywords=seagate+goflex+usb3

That makes no sense. I have several SATA disks, and I'd rather upgrade my Vantec NextStar USB2 dock to its USB3 version (http://www.vantecusa.com/en/product/view_detail/414) and keep using/buying SATA disks. I also have a couple of 2.5 "native" USB drives that support USB3, so I would get an instant gain in performance from them too.

You don't need USB3, that's great and I'm genuinely happy for you. Just don't assume that everyone has the same needs as you do.

 

[emjaymert]

I am having my doubts about a 2012 update.Here it is,2012 is about 75% over and no Imac refresh in sight.They may skip 2012 and go straight to 2013. I m not buying a 2011 unless its at a discount due to the fact its no longer cutting edge and is severely dated.

 

[Johnf1285]

I am having my doubts about a 2012 update.Here it is,2012 is about 75% over and no Imac refresh in sight.They may skip 2012 and go straight to 2013. I m not buying a 2011 unless its at a discount due to the fact its no longer cutting edge and is severely dated.

Meh. Late 2012, early 2013. At this point I think we all feel somewhat defeated.

I regret selling my gear. I was so confident it would be out by July...

 

[Thunderbird]

People keep saying "next Tuesday" or "wait till this date 'cause it's a Tuesday"

Have iMacs historically only come out on a Tuesday? Always?

 

[AppleDApp]

The irony is that people who have been waiting on the 2012 iMac since february on the grounds that they won't pay for 1 year old sandy bridge tech, will now be in the position to buy 1 year old ivy bridge tech.

By then I guess I will wait for the haswell upgrade which should be more performance wise.

 

[Ih8Bart]

Has there ever been an Update during times of Zero interest financing for Macs/ipads for business clients?[omg, my english sucks, did you understand what I mean?]
I'm asking cause in Germany we've actually got such an offer limited to oct.26th.
http://store.apple.com/de-business/browse/campaigns/macleasing/?pid=4017&cid=DE-FIN-4-017

And it seems quite weird to me when you are purchasing Macs for your Business, One Day you can get the 2011 Macs and the next Day it's the 2012 for the Same special conditions.
What about other countries?Are there similar offers?
Germany is MS-Country, we Love the iPhone, but most of us are too stupid to appreciate the benefits of OSX. So it all can mean that AppleGermany is trying to get rid of the Last 2011 iMacs before the New ones arrive.
Or am I just reaching for the Last straw...?