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My lack of respect extends to the Patriots so don't take it personal.
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Nothing. I just happen to dislike the Cowboys. Specifically Jones.
My lack of respect extends to the Patriots so don't take it personal.
Peace is a Seahawks fan. The Cowboys won in the Clink early this season. Bastards.
A couple of comments:
1. Can the Packers be competitive at CenturyLink Field the second time around? With Aaron Rodgers still a bit limited due to that calf injury, he could be highly vulnerable to that revived Seahawks defense.
2. Andrew Luck will literally have to play the game of his life to win at Gillette Stadium. That will be a tall order since the Patriots are an excellent team playing in wintry conditions--and a healthy Rob Gronkowski and the presence of Darrelle Revis will make it much harder for the Colts to win.
1. Can the Packers be competitive at CenturyLink Field the second time around? With Aaron Rodgers still a bit limited due to that calf injury, he could be highly vulnerable to that revived Seahawks defense.
2. Andrew Luck will literally have to play the game of his life to win at Gillette Stadium. That will be a tall order since the Patriots are an excellent team playing in wintry conditions--and a healthy Rob Gronkowski and the presence of Darrelle Revis will make it much harder for the Colts to win.
Gotta play the games, but man, a Seahawks/Patriots Super Bowl would be awesome.
I think his passer rating was something like 76 in the first half with no interceptions. Yikes.
It's weird, the announcers are all refusing to say that Manning looks cooked. No mention by Nantz or Simms of the wobbly 5 yard passes all night, even when the Broncos were down late and had to throw downfield and couldn't. It's almost as if they're afraid to say it.
Manning typically gets the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not sure why they're so hesitant to mention it - the man has had multiple neck surgeries and still has weakness in his right arm/triceps. It's not actually his fault he looks so bad. I think his other injuries contributed. The Broncos looked terrible tonight, and no clue as to why they didn't pound the run first. Their defense was in the upper echelon all season and really failed them tonight. Non-existent pass rush and Talib had a terrible game.
Manning goes one and done again, and I think John Fox is out.
Re: Dallas/Green Bay game: whatever the "official" rule is, I don't want to watch a sport where that is not a catch. I really thought Dallas was going to pull it out. GB/Seattle next week should be good, but would be better if Rodgers was healthier. Seattle has gotten an incredible lucky draw this postseason.
Manning typically gets the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not sure why they're so hesitant to mention it - the man has had multiple neck surgeries and still has weakness in his right arm/triceps. It's not actually his fault he looks so bad. I think his other injuries contributed. The Broncos looked terrible tonight, and no clue as to why they didn't pound the run first. Their defense was in the upper echelon all season and really failed them tonight. Non-existent pass rush and Talib had a terrible game.
Manning goes one and done again, and I think John Fox is out.
Re: Dallas/Green Bay game: whatever the "official" rule is, I don't want to watch a sport where that is not a catch. I really thought Dallas was going to pull it out. GB/Seattle next week should be good, but would be better if Rodgers was healthier. Seattle has gotten an incredible lucky draw this postseason.
I don't believe it was a catch because he never had control of it. As whatever-his-name fell with the ball momentarily in his hand, he physically lost control of it, then grabbed it for an instance, losing it again when he hit the ground. He never had control. If he had hit the ground and it had not popped out, then he would have had control and had a catch. I acknowledge that if I was a Cowboy fan, I might be arguing he had control and a catch, but really he did not.
He is still Peyton Manning so cooked doesn't really fit the bill, but he's now an old Peyton Manning and it shows. It happened to Montana, Marino, Favre, and many others. Time is a bitch: (pix from bleacher report). He may win another Super Bowl but it won't be pretty getting there. My prediction is that the last great win he had was last year's AFC Championship. The old days where he could take a hit, throw 4,000 yards over and over, and make it look easy doing it are over. We will never see a game as good again as his last big postseason win last January and it's likely the last of the four great postseason games they have had against each other, three of them for the AFC Championship in Jan of '04, '07, and last year:
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Sunday, January 19, 2014
AFC Championship Game: Denver Broncos 26, New England Patriots 16
New England Patriots vs. Denver Broncos – Game summary
1 2 3 4 Total
Patriots 0 3 0 13 16
Broncos 3 10 7 6 26
at Sports Authority Field at Mile High, Denver, Colorado
Date: January 19
Game time: 3:00 pm EST/1:00 pm MST/12 noon PST
Game weather: 63 °F (17 °C), sunny
Game attendance: 77,110
Referee: Tony Corrente
TV announcers (CBS): Jim Nantz (play-by-play), Phil Simms (color commentator), and Tracy Wolfson (sideline reporter)
Recap, Game book
Game information
For the first time since 2006, the Patriots played on the road in the playoffs, which was also the last time they faced Peyton Manning when he was with the Colts. But the story was all about Denver as their offense racked up 507 yards without turning the ball over or giving up any sacks as they advanced to the 7th Super Bowl in franchise history, avenging a week 12 defeat in which the Patriots rallied from a 24–0 halftime deficit. Peyton Manning set a conference championship record with 32 completions for 400 yards and two touchdowns. The team also got a big performance from receiver Demaryius Thomas, who caught 7 passes for 134 yards and a touchdown, and kicker Matt Prater, who made four field goals. The win was especially satisfying for head coach John Fox, who lost to Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in Super Bowl XXXVIII 10 years earlier when he was with the Carolina Panthers.
Midway through the first quarter, Manning got the Broncos into scoring range with an 18-yard completion to Knowshon Moreno, a 29-yard pass to Demaryius Thomas, and a 19-yarder to Eric Decker. Prater finished the drive with a 27-yard field goal to put the team up 3–0. The next time Denver had the ball, they advanced 93 yards in 15 plays on a drive that took up nearly half the second quarter. At one point they faced 3rd and 10 from the Patriots' 39-yard line, and made the conversion with a 28-yard draw play by Moreno. Manning eventually got the team into the end zone with a 1-yard pass to tight end Jacob Tamme, making the score 10–0.[5]
This time New England managed to respond, with Brady completing a 27-yard pass to receiver Aaron Dobson on the first play of their next drive; this ended up as Brady's longest completion of the game. The Patriots eventually reached the Broncos' 18-yard line, but Denver lineman Robert Ayers sacked Brady for an 11-yard loss on third down, forcing them to settle for Stephen Gostkowski's 47-yard field goal. Denver then took the ball back and drove for more points, as Manning hooked up with Demaryius Thomas for a pair of completions that netted 53 yards. Prater finished things off with a 35-yard field goal, giving the team a 13–3 lead with 25 seconds left in the half.[6]
Denver started out the second half with a long touchdown drive that took up almost the same amount of time (7:08) as their last one (7:01), moving the ball 80 yards in 13 plays. Manning completed 7 of 8 passes for 59 yards on the drive, the last a 3-yard touchdown toss to Demaryius Thomas that increased Denver's lead to 20–3. New England responded with a drive to the Broncos' 29-yard line, but on a 4th and 2 conversion attempt, Brady was sacked for a 10-yard loss by defensive tackle Terrance Knighton. Denver then took over and set up a drive for more points, with Manning completing two passes to tight end Julius Thomas for 28 yards and a completion to Demaryius Thomas for 30. New England managed to halt the drive at their own 1, but Prater kicked his third field goal to put Denver up 23–3.[7]
New England finally scored a touchdown with just over 9 minutes left in the fourth quarter. Starting the drive with an 18-yard pass to tight end Michael Hoomanawanui, Brady followed it up with completions to Austin Collie and Julian Edelman for gains of 20 and 16 yards. He eventually completed the drive with a 7-yard touchdown pass to Edelman, cutting the score to 23–10. However, Denver scored again with their next possession, with Manning's 37-yard completion to Julius Thomas setting up Prater's 4th field goal, this one from 54 yards.[8]
New England now faced a 26–10 deficit with 7 minutes left in regulation; Brady completed 5 of 7 passes for 54 yards on their next drive, and took the ball into the end zone himself on a 5-yard run. However, their 2-point conversion attempt failed, keeping the score 26–16. Then after Decker recovered New England's onside kick, Denver managed to run the final 3:07 off the clock with their last drive. Brady finished the day 24-for-38 for 277 yards and touchdown, along with 2 carries for 7 yards and a score on the ground. Edelman caught 10 passes for 89 yards and a touchdown. Julius Thomas had 8 receptions for 85 yards for Denver, while Decker had 5 catches for 73.
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I think because Sam Shields was all over Dez it made it seem like a football move was being made. This is no different than a WR running a go route and is wide open, has to extend his arms to catch the ball making him off balance and falling to the ground and ball pops out. We've seen this almost every week and there's no discussion. Reading the reactions makes me feel like I was watching a totally different game.
I don't see Greenbay with a gimpy, albeit incredibly gifted QB, can get beyond Seattle. Tbh, I'm not jazzed up about seeing either one make it to the SB.
As for the AFC, Indy looked great yesterday and the Patriots barely got by the Ravens. Brady and company will have their hands full to say the least.
In both cases it seems that the old guard is up against the new up and coming teams.
As for the AFC, Indy looked great yesterday and the Patriots barely got by the Ravens. Brady and company will have their hands full to say the least.
In both cases it seems that the old guard is up against the new up and coming teams.
tarnished because...? i won't argue that, but surely not because of that call yesterday? that was the right call.
SEA over GB
NE over INDY
and well done to Indy.
and and, i hope Fox is fired! he won't be though.
I think Manning needs to hang up his cleats. Age has caught up to him, he's great on the beginning of the season but as time goes on the toll, takes too much on him and his play degrades
Who would they get in his place. there's really no coaches available that would be considered an upgrade.
I think because Sam Shields was all over Dez it made it seem like a football move was being made. This is no different than a WR running a go route and is wide open, has to extend his arms to catch the ball making him off balance and falling to the ground and ball pops out. We've seen this almost every week and there's no discussion. Reading the reactions makes me feel like I was watching a totally different game.
(Green Bay/Dallas) After grabbing the ball, if it had not slipped from his hands while he was falling, you could say he had control and it was a catch when he hit the ground, even though the ball popped out, but it did slip from his hands prior to that. It all boils down to if you consider the player had control of the ball.
I have to say its an odd hire for the Bills to hire Ryan. His history shows that while he's a great at building the defense, he failed miserably at nurturing new/young quarterbacks. They have a top notch defensive coordinator with Schwartz who runs a 4-3 defensive, where as Ryan used a 3-4.
I think both sides leaped before they looked.
I wonder if Ryan will be guaranteeing a super bowl for the Bills, like he seemed to for the jets over and over.
I think both sides leaped before they looked.
I wonder if Ryan will be guaranteeing a super bowl for the Bills, like he seemed to for the jets over and over.
I think because Sam Shields was all over Dez it made it seem like a football move was being made. This is no different than a WR running a go route and is wide open, has to extend his arms to catch the ball making him off balance and falling to the ground and ball pops out. We've seen this almost every week and there's no discussion. Reading the reactions makes me feel like I was watching a totally different game.
I'm going to disagree with you. This is another rule—like the Tuck Rule—where the letter of the law may tell you one thing, while your eyeballs tell you another.
I saw a receiver, in one beautiful and spectacular move, catch the ball and extend toward the goal line just inches away. IMO, taking that catch away was in my opinion a travesty.
BTW, I'm a long-time Cowboy hater and love to see them lose.
I'm bummed to see the Cowboys lose. I really wanted them to at least get to Seattle so Romo could have a chance to exorcise some old demons. As far as the controversial catch/call goes, I understand that by the rule the ball moved after coming into contact with the ground and thus it is not deemed a completion. I know we are talking about split second reactions and instincts combined with muscle memory, but in my opinion Dez messed up when extended his hand to brace his fall as opposed to putting two hands on the ball and taking the blow of hitting the ground. There is no doubt that it was an incredible effort and I so wanted it to stand, but alas it was reversed according to the letter of the law.
The Colts D stepped up and the Broncos D didn't. In my opinion that was a major factor in that game yesterday.
Well, at this point I don't really have an investment in any of the remaining teams. It will be interesting to watch though as the remaining games should be really good no matter who wins.
The Colts D stepped up and the Broncos D didn't. In my opinion that was a major factor in that game yesterday.
Well, at this point I don't really have an investment in any of the remaining teams. It will be interesting to watch though as the remaining games should be really good no matter who wins.
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To me it's much more fun when my team is in there, win or lose as that's the point of being a fan. Without them I don't care and it's kind of boring. At this point, just because I have been so sick of hearing just how good the Colts are, it would be nice to see them win. I think they are the least likely of the four teams remaining so them winning would be great as it's always nice to see the young top players make their mark.
Now the great thing about this postseason is the talk of Coach John Fox getting fired because that leaves a chance that he could go to one of five teams with a vacancy and San Francisco would certainly be mentioned in the mix:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...s-available-he-may-not-be-available-for-long/
"Five teams still have coaching vacancies: the Jets, Falcons, Bears, 49ers, and Raiders."
Fox could do better with San Francisco and go all the way, and while the 49ers don't have the best QB in the history of the sport ala Manning, the team has many other tools that Fox could work with to bring us back to the Lombardi. My winter would be compete with Fox to San Francisco, and James Shields to San Francisco before February 18th.
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I totally get that. Years of playing fantasy football have totally changed how I watch the game. I do cheer for Dallas and Tennessee as those are the two teams that I have a "home town" connection to, but beyond that I tend to root for individual players to do well because I've gotten to know them better by following them on an individual level in fantasy. It's certainly easier to appreciate a players and teams effort when you don't have an emotional investment.
Just because you catch the ball in the end zone doesn't make it a touchdown if both feet are not down. Just grabbing the ball in the air does not make it a catch.
I've now rewatched the replay several times. It was not a catch end of story. He just did not have control of the ball and it hit the ground. Extending for the end zone was his fatal flaw.
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The Seahawks will be VERY difficult to stop on their road to a repeat. The only team I really think might beat them is NE, and I'd rather see Seattle than NE win.
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The Seahawks will be VERY difficult to stop on their road to a repeat. The only team I really think might beat them is NE, and I'd rather see Seattle than NE win.