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I have an 8+ but I'm not sure I'd buy this XL iPhone. 8+ was the first plus size iPhone I had and I've enjoyed it a lot during the past 6 months, I love the screen size and I think the 5.5 has a better aspect ratio than the 5.8 of iPhone X, but I miss the size of the "regular" iPhone.
Since last month I started to go out without a jacket and the plus size phone is annoying me since it is really difficult to fit it inside my pant's pockets. I guess I should own two iPhones, one for the fall/winter and the other one for the summer :D

The sweet spot to me would be a 5.5'' phone with FaceID, so basically the iPhone plus without bezels. I think I'll end up buying iPhone X2 or whatever they call it, but I'm not a big fan of its aspect ratio and that's the main reason why I bought the 8+ last fall (the second reason was of course the price).
 
Europeans have fancy consumer laws. As a result, Europeans get to pay fancy prices.

No, no, no

This is very common argument - "you have 2 years warranty, so you have to pay more". The fact is, in EU we also have 1 year of Apple warranty. Second year is provided by seller, not Apple. Price have nothing to do with warranty in EU (the only exception is AOS, which have to give you 2 years warranty as well, but most of the customers buying from local APR, AR, online shops and local shops, where prices are a bit lower, around 30-70 euro).
 
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Notcheritis has become incurable, apparently (after its recent outbreak in the Far-East)
 
Sure, but the point is that in Australia, we don't pay US federal or state taxes, for obvious reasons. Which means that in Aus, the 64GB iPhone X is still ~US$87.50 more expensive than it should be.

If I try to buy any Australian made product in the United States, I can generally guarantee I will pay a higher price than you do for it. It’s like that for many products from America around the world. I’m sure you have a wonderful higher price for Levi’s too. No one is punishing you, that’s just the way the world works.
 
Sorry but if Apple insist with this stupid aspect ratios please make the X+ 6.6 inches.
That way we would get actually get an increase in the active (16X9) screen size area.
 
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I wonder if this is a nod to new iPad Pro’s being announced at WWDC? Horizontal Face ID announced on the iPad Pro at WWDC and then comes to new iPhone’s later in September.
 
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4.7" iPhone X, which has the same width as the current iPhone SE.

I wonder if there is a market for this if it cost $700 to $799?
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Sure, but the point is that in Australia, we don't pay US federal or state taxes, for obvious reasons. Which means that in Aus, the 64GB iPhone X is still ~US$87.50 more expensive than it should be.

I have been wondering and thinking on this for a long time. Does anyone know of a site that compares Apple Product pricing in details?

Bloomberg or Quartz runs Apple price from country to country about every iPhone release. But what they don't mention is Tax and Law Protection. For Example they list US iPhone Prices as $999, when you will have to paid sales tax in most states. While in EU or UK the prices already includes VAT, and may offer one more year warranty.

Is there a site that compares the "Real" Prices, i.e Prices include VAT and Prices Excludes it.
 
If I try to buy any Australian made product in the United States, I can generally guarantee I will pay a higher price than you do for it. It’s like that for many products from America around the world. I’m sure you have a wonderful higher price for Levi’s too. No one is punishing you, that’s just the way the world works.

Apple products are made by child laborers in China, not USA! The products are then shipped from China to the rest of the world including the USA...
Due to low salaries and stress many workers commit suicide too.

The bottom line is that we pay waaaay to much in EU and AUS (wherever that is :D )
 
How would "petitioning local governments" change international EU tax laws?
As far as I know, there are no EU tax laws regarding the VAT. It is an usual misconceptions that EU regulate taxes in member countries. For non-EU readers, we pay the taxes according to the country we live in. Then a fraction of the taxes is payed by the respective country to EU for various benefits so some of these money is going back to the countries.

Tax avoidance and fair traiding are addressed on the EU level as these are international issues. That was was hit Ireland and subsequently Apple (and probably lots of other companies).
 
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No, no, no

This is very common argument - "you have 2 years warranty, so you have to pay more". The fact is, in EU we also have 1 year of Apple warranty. Second year is provided by seller, not Apple. Price have nothing to do with warranty in EU (the only exception is AOS, which have to give you 2 years warranty as well, but most of the customers buying from local APR, AR, online shops and local shops, where prices are a bit lower, around 30-70 euro).

And the seller can fix your phone for free. Oh no, they can't. Either there's a contract between Apple and the seller that Apple will perform the needed repairs on behalf of the seller (so sellers don't go bankrupt if some phone starts developing problems after 15 months), or less likely, the difference between what you pay to the seller and what the seller pays to Apple is higher.
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Apple products are made by child laborers in China, not USA! The products are then shipped from China to the rest of the world including the USA...
Due to low salaries and stress many workers commit suicide too.
Did you know that about 40,000 Americans commit suicide every year? At the same rate, Foxconn with over a million employees would have about 130 suicides by employees every year. They have TWO. Foxconn employees seem to be sixty times happier than the average US citizen.

Child labour is illegal in China. If Apple catches anyone hiring someone under 16, that company either loses their contract, or they have to send the kid back to school and pay them their full salary until they finish school. Nobody in Apple's supply chain will knowingly hire anyone under sixteen, because it ends up very, very expensive.
 
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And the seller can fix your phone for free. Oh no, they can't. Either there's a contract between Apple and the seller that Apple will perform the needed repairs on behalf of the seller (so sellers don't go bankrupt if some phone starts developing problems after 15 months), or less likely, the difference between what you pay to the seller and what the seller pays to Apple is higher.
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Did you know that about 40,000 Americans commit suicide every year? At the same rate, Foxconn with over a million employees would have about 130 suicides by employees every year. They have TWO. Foxconn employees seem to be sixty times happier than the average US citizen.

Child labour is illegal in China. If Apple catches anyone hiring someone under 16, that company either loses their contract, or they have to send the kid back to school and pay them their full salary until they finish school. Nobody in Apple's supply chain will knowingly hire anyone under sixteen, because it ends up very, very expensive.

You do realize that 40.000 suicides in the US are not related to iPhone making, which makes your comparison irrelevant!
 
Can't wait for the 6.5" iPhone, that's the holy grail. I'm getting tired of squinting my eyes at my X.
 
You do realize that 40.000 suicides in the US are not related to iPhone making, which makes your comparison irrelevant!

Foxconn suicide rate is much lower than the national average, the whole point is redundant. I really wish people would stop using it with no context to the country or culture!
 
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I don't know about the EU, but it's pretty simple in Australia. 10% flat GST.

64GB iPhone X costs AU$1579, or US$1187.50.

That's still close to 10% more than it should, on top of our 10% GST. I don't know how US pricing works, but if that US$1000 list price includes any federal or state taxes, then that's even worse.

It’s not only about your local tax but import duty tax on foreign goods. Here in India it ranges from 20-400% to protect local companies. The X costs $ 1450 in India.

In Europe I think it’s also the second year warranty and other pro consumer laws that bring up the prices. US is relatively free market with competition dictating consumer protection rather than the government.
 
How many times ya'll are going to post the same news multiple times with different titles?
 
Icon filled screen is real unjust for a 10 years old OS. More interesting and newer methods of interaction models that need not launch apps, provide actionable notification system using 3D touch sort of interface, Fill the screen with feeds from various sources (Flipboard type with mixture of context), resizable content types, making the app's as a last resort for any possible productivity activities.

With 10 years of mining user behaviour in their iOS, it must be ready to move forward with suitable radical changes in the OS.

Siri should be able to help out since Apple first introduced this.
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It's all about the pricing. Apple need to stop charging European's more money than US costumers. In most places the basic iPhone X starts at almost $1400 dollars. That's ridiculous.

That's probably due to VAT, duties and to comply with multi--year mandated warranty and support than the one year available in US. In Europe, people shall upgrade iPhones lot less frequent than in US, if price is a concern.
 
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Bigger bigger bigger

I'm still waiting for smaller&conveniant....
Am i the only ohne?!?

I just want the better camera in the smaller sized. I have no need for the + sized phones, other than the camera which I'd be forced to buy a larger phone to get.
 
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